Bud Pics.

[GIJoe8383]

Ok so here is my plants now ranging from 7-3 weeks old all grown from my own seeds in soil.
The lights have been in a 12/12 cycle for 3 weeks and 4 days.
I will update this thread with new pics every week so you can see how they develop.

I am going to attempt to make these 2 strains available through a seed shop in Glastonbury,England,but dont hold your breath as i dont know whats gonna happen if anything.

One strain is about 70% sativa 30% indica the other is 30% sativa and 70% indica in so far as i can tell without being a scientist.
This stuff is very strong

Original strains used to cross over the past 8 years in the correct order that i used them were:
White widow.
Snow White.
BigBud.
Bubblegum.
Shaman.
Blueberry(Male pollen only)
Matanuska Tundra.

Setup used:
1 58watt diy shop cool blue fluro tube
1 30watt diy shop cool blue fluro tube
1 400watt HPS Grolux dual spectrum bulb
1 Box of Miracle grow
1 bottle of Levingtons Tomorite with seaweed extract
1 jar of blackstrap molasses
3 Bags of B&Q Specialist compost.
Yield would be at least 400g per square metre but i cannot confirm this as this is the first time that i have ever used a hps and the plants in my pics have been purposefully kept short and fat,if you vegged these for a long time they would definitely have the ability to become huge.
I keep them short and fat by transplanting them 3 times and keeping them in smallish pots,the smaller plants that you can see had no vegetative cycle at all and the bigger ones that are in the pics lower down this page had 4 weeks veg time but only 2 weeks of that was under a hps the first 2 was under fluros only.
The high is amazing,enough to wreck my girlfriend on a single skinner and it is very trippy,when she was on this smoke she wanted sex a lot more than usual,the high of the mostly indica is very similar but it yields more fatter buds.

does the B&Q specialist compost have nutes in it ? or did u add nutes later on? would this be the miracle grow?

 

[growtall420]

your pics make my mouth water man. I'll for sure try out some of your techniques, thanks for the info man.

 

[cheese]

can i just say one thing?......

TRIAL AND ERROR! PEOPLE LEARN BY THERE MISTAKES, PEOPLE GROW THE WAY THEY HAVE LEARNT (MOSTLY FROM THERE OWN EXPERIENCES!) SO TO BE HONNEST THERE IS NO TRUE WAY TO GROW GRANDMA'S HERBS, YE SHARE THE INFO, BUT FUCKING HELL THERE IS NO NEED TO BE KILLING EACH OTHER OVER IT!! PEOPLE SIGN UP TO RIU TO HELP EACH OTHER, TO MAKE FRIENDS, TO SHARE EXPERIENCES, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAN YE KEEP IT THAT WAY?

well done natmoon nice plants and that bud does look HUGEEEEE! lol

sorry if i seem a lil pissed off....well guess what i am! why are 2 major growers fighting? why dont they accept that they grow in different ways? to be honnest who cares! aslong as we see those lil babys! choose how to grow your herbs, dont let someone else choose 4 u!, hay try something new every now and then.....thats y were all here isnt it?

POT THAT SHIT, GROW THAT SHIT, TOKE THAT SHIT!!!! peace

thank you for all taking time out to read my lil post, if you think im talking shit, keep it to urself or post it in the 'polical' posts and argue about it there!

Thank you PEACE!

 

[natmoon]

does the B&Q specialist compost have nutes in it ? or did u add nutes later on? would this be the miracle grow?

I used some of the cheapest compost and the cheapest nutes.
The so called specialist compost was 2.69 a bag,the miracle grow was 1.99 the tomato food was 1.79 the mollases was about 1.50 the ericaious miracle grow that i used a couple of times was 1.99 or something like that.
I already had the pots and the tubes from previous grows.
B&Q is like a cheap and cheerful hardware store not at all specialist lol.
Anyway setup was about a tenner,and the light was about 80 quid.
For those of you that can see my pics without paranoia of editing or weighted buds or that i may have a secret grow book project what im saying is that for 90 quid and a spare cupboard you can have a good setup that will last you for a good year turning out 4 crops a year in a metre square area at about 500g per square metre if you are careful.

 

[natmoon]

I had 8 stems so 8 times the so called 1 oz yield.



No mate, it doesn't work like that. A plant must be big enough to produce 8oz... which means SEVERAL MONTHS of veg'. Doesn't matter what you do to it... the amount of time you veg' has a direct correlation to yield.

A 4 week old plant hasn't got a chance in hell of achieving 8oz... not even 4... especially not in soil... without a ph meter, nor an ec meter.

I dont ever recall stating that my plants were only 4 weeks old.
I did however state that i only vegged them for 4 weeks and that the small plants had had no veg at all.

I think that it is you that just doesn't understand what i now know to be called fimming.
I have fimmed loads of plants and was taught this ages ago.
How much do you think a solid 8 stem indica plant plant would weigh in at then?

Skinny fluffy plants are like i always told you,not what im about.
This is why i do not tie them off,it would seem that having a strong stem constantly blowing around leads to strong muscles oops i meant buds.
The structure of the plant,the fimming,the watering,the feeding,the fans and the mollasess and every other little thing that i do leads to big solid heavy resinous buds,simple as that

 

[natmoon]

Maybe these pics can show that my bud would not fit on small scales and help show how wet or dry or compact you might think it is.
REAL WEED!!!

ALSO REAL WEED!!!

Edited weed lol

 

[skunkushybrid]

I dont ever recall stating that my plants were only 4 weeks old.
I did however state that i only vegged them for 4 weeks and that the small plants had had no veg at all.

I think that it is you that just doesn't understand what i now know to be called fimming.
I have fimmed loads of plants and was taught this ages ago.
How much do you think a solid 8 stem indica plant plant would weigh in at then?

Skinny fluffy plants are like i always told you,not what im about.
This is why i do not tie them off,it would seem that having a strong stem constantly blowing around leads to strong muscles oops i meant buds.
The structure of the plant,the fimming,the watering,the feeding,the fans and the mollasess and every other little thing that i do leads to big solid heavy resinous buds,simple as that

As I've said, it depends on how long you veg it for. To get 1/2 a pound from an indoor plant after just 4 weeks veg' is impossible. Bullshit.

I'm not arguing about how you grow... I couldn't care less. What does bother me is bullshit.

1/2 a pound from 1 seed plant in 12 weeks... by natmoon.

So these outdoor growers that are growing for 7 or 8 months with the power of the sun... they get half a pound. Yet you, can do this all indoors in 12 weeks. Nat, you're not just a grower, you're a fucking miracle worker.

 

[Dr High]

As I've said, it depends on how long you veg it for. To get 1/2 a pound from an indoor plant after just 4 weeks veg' is impossible. Bullshit.

I'm not arguing about how you grow... I couldn't care less. What does bother me is bullshit.

1/2 a pound from 1 seed plant in 12 weeks... by natmoon.

So these outdoor growers that are growing for 7 or 8 months with the power of the sun... they get half a pound. Yet you, can do this all indoors in 12 weeks. Nat, you're not just a grower, you're a fucking miracle worker.

Lmfao! a fucking miracle worker! hahahaha!!!

 

[natmoon]

Well after years of growing with just fluro tubes the addition of a dual spectrum hps bulb and the use of molasses seems to make a lot of difference.

Once again i will say this.

If i had one big stem i would expect it to yield between 1 and 2 oz dry.
But i did have 8 stems.
I seeded 2 lower stems and have cut them down already for seed.
I have cut the one top in question in half and thats what you see in my bass bin.

So i have one huge stem left and 4 stems that are a bit bigger than the one in the bass bin.
If i had not of seeded this plant i would have had 8 good stems and the plant as a whole would have been even bigger,but seeds take their toll on the plant.

So i expect the 4 normal stems that are left to provide me with about an ounce each and the huge log to provide me with 1.5 oz dry.
IF i had let all 8 stems go properly without seed and proper side lighting i would have easily got 8 oz.

As it is i only have 6 stems 1 of which i took early.
To be honest i do not see why people are in disbelief at this yield.
I take it that none of you realise how big the stems are and that others think the time frame is to short.

There is nothing that i can do to prove anything.
I have done all i can to show you my way of growing.
If i take high quality shots i am accused of doctoring the pictures,if i weigh the buds i am accused of weighting the bud,in fact nearly everything that i say is constantly challenged or ridiculed since i have been here

All i can say is that why don't some of you try my way and see what happens.
I will never be selling any books and all i can say is give it a shot and bear in mind that i used bigbud in my line for size and structure and that my buds are fat and big and heavy and have good hybrid vigor whether you like it or not thats the way it is

 

[donnieosmond]

I believe you buddy. Good grow. Don't listen to the noobs.

 

[Dr High]

I believe you buddy. Good grow. Don't listen to the noobs.

Skunky isnt a noob there both good growers.

 

[natmoon]

I believe you buddy. Good grow. Don't listen to the noobs.

Cheers donnie i appreciate the support

Anyway the indica is getting bagged right now as i type(almost).
I have removed her from the cupboard and the soil is pretty well dry and i am going to put a black bin bag over her carefully for the next 48 hours i reckon.

I bag the plant(usually in another cupboard but the missis has filled it with crap already and i cant be assed to clear it all out!!!)to try to increase resin production 10 fold and encourage a final swelling of the pods,if all 8 of the stems were still on i would leave it probably 3 days and nights but only 5 so 48 hours should be enough.

You must make sure that the soil is pretty damn dry before you do this.
When i come to finally chop it down there will be little to no water left in the plant.
The plant will sense total constant darkness and panic swell and resinate itself as the plants defense mech is triggered.

Anyway heres some final pics of the indica,alive anyway,i will take some more when the bag comes off,and some more whilst its drying.
I would also like to draw attention to the fact that i have over 100 seeds from this plant and if it was not seeded it would have been even bigger and better than it is.
I painted the pollen on selected stems very carefully

 

[natmoon]

Skunky isnt a noob there both good growers.

Hes not a noob no,but he is set in his ways and is not open minded to new ways that don't have every technical requirement electronically monitored.
I grow the old way,you know the way,the old way

 

[donnieosmond]

It's misinformation. bullshit. So appreciate all you want. 8oz off one plant in 12 weeks, in soil? COME ON.

You obviously haven't read GardenKnowm's new book.

 

[Dr High]

Cheers donnie i appreciate the support

Anyway the indica is getting bagged right now as i type(almost).
I have removed her from the cupboard and the soil is pretty well dry and i am going to put a black bin bag over her carefully for the next 48 hours i reckon.

I bag the plant(usually in another cupboard but the missis has filled it with crap already and i cant be assed to clear it all out!!!)to try to increase resin production 10 fold and encourage a final swelling of the pods,if all 8 of the stems were still on i would leave it probably 3 days and nights but only 5 so 48 hours should be enough.

You must make sure that the soil is pretty damn dry before you do this.
When i come to finally chop it down there will be little to no water left in the plant.
The plant will sense total constant darkness and panic swell and resinate itself as the plants defense mech is triggered.

Anyway heres some final pics of the indica,alive anyway,i will take some more when the bag comes off,and some more whilst its drying.
I would also like to draw attention to the fact that i have over 100 seeds from this plant and if it was not seeded it would have been even bigger and better than it is.
I painted the pollen on selected stems very carefully

MMMM fuck this looks tastey! its fuckin blue! nice man... NICE!

 

[natmoon]

I have no reason to lie,the plant is half the size of a door.
Resin weighs a lot more than water is all i can say really.
If you keep a plant fairly dry all the way through but not unhealthily dry it will compensate with resin production to keep itself moist all the way through.
You need to keep watering it this way all the way through its grow inc veg time.

Thanks for all the support and also thanks to all the doubters,really every time you accuse me of being a fake its just an even bigger boost if i look at it another way you think my stuff is so damn good i must be lying and doctoring the pics and weighting the bud,lol cool

And yes read GardenKnowm's books they will help you a lot.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Well after years of growing with just fluro tubes the addition of a dual spectrum hps bulb and the use of molasses seems to make a lot of difference.

Once again i will say this.

If i had one big stem i would expect it to yield between 1 and 2 oz dry.
But i did have 8 stems.
I seeded 2 lower stems and have cut them down already for seed.
I have cut the one top in question in half and thats what you see in my bass bin.

So i have one huge stem left and 4 stems that are a bit bigger than the one in the bass bin.
If i had not of seeded this plant i would have had 8 good stems and the plant as a whole would have been even bigger,but seeds take their toll on the plant.

So i expect the 4 normal stems that are left to provide me with about an ounce each and the huge log to provide me with 1.5 oz dry.
IF i had let all 8 stems go properly without seed and proper side lighting i would have easily got 8 oz.

As it is i only have 6 stems 1 of which i took early.
To be honest i do not see why people are in disbelief at this yield.
I take it that none of you realise how big the stems are and that others think the time frame is to short.

There is nothing that i can do to prove anything.
I have done all i can to show you my way of growing.
If i take high quality shots i am accused of doctoring the pictures,if i weigh the buds i am accused of weighting the bud,in fact nearly everything that i say is constantly challenged or ridiculed since i have been here

All i can say is that why don't some of you try my way and see what happens.
I will never be selling any books and all i can say is give it a shot and bear in mind that i used bigbud in my line for size and structure and that my buds are fat and big and heavy and have good hybrid vigor whether you like it or not thats the way it is

You just talk pure shit. I think you're spending too much time in Ankh Morpork... your grip on reality is not too clever.

VEG' time... Veg time. After a 4 week veg' from seed a plant, no matter what you do to it, is not capable of producing 8oz. NOT FUCKING CAPABLE. Do you get that?

So you have big bud in your line... so what? Big Bud is a light and fluffy strain. Looks more than it is. Throw a q on the scales and lookswise, it'll look like a half oz.

So donnieosmond, you believe him do you? REALLY? 8 oz off one seed plant after 12 weeks from start to finish? You're just as much of a mug as he is.

There isn't a grower IN THE WORLD that could accomplish that.

There are a lot of people on here that exagerrate their harvests... but this has to be the most ridiculous I've ever heard.

To be honest, I'm quite sickened that somebody could stretch the truth THIS far, AND have people believe him. Idiots.

Nat, you need to write off to soft secrets. send in pic's of your bud, then tell them how much is there and how fast you did it in. I know they won't believe you... but at least they'll have a good laugh over it, and you'll get some free seeds. Send in a pic' of your bud with your missus's tits out and you get sent top quality seeds.

It doesn't matter about fimming nat. It matters about veg' time. The longer you veg' the plant, the bigger it will become. A 4 week old plant just isn't capable of producing 8oz (after being flowered for 8 weeks, get it this time!). To achieve those kind of yields from an indoor grow per plant would take months of veg' time. You only have a 400w dual spec'. wtf? no, WTF?

hear what you are saying nat'. Listen to yourself. You can keep lying by all means, but this site is meant to help people grow weed properly. Then someone like you comes along... a supposed breeder, with over 20 years of experience... actually grew up with/around cannabis growers... yet you over extend your yields beyond all realms of possibility.

To get 8oz per plant... you'd need to start from clone... give a 4 week veg'... and be growing in DWC. Then you might have a chance. NOT, start from seed in soil. You can keep lying all you want, but I cannot let you continue to pretend to be something you clearly are not. So, everytime you lie... I will call you out.

I honestly cannot stand bullshit... especially on this sort of scale.

 

[skunkushybrid]

I have no reason to lie,the plant is half the size of a door.

Well a door is 6'6"... so that would make your plant 3' 3"........ AND? So what? I look at your pic's of your plants and I see skinny buds. Fuck all to them. I actually laughed to myself. I know what an 8oz plant looks like, and it would dwarf your little thing.

So GK says in his book that it's possible to get 8oz per plant after a 4 week veg'? In soil and from seed under a 400w dual spec'?

I doubt that very much.

 

[420chazz]

yeah i dont reckon that you could do that after 4 weeks of veg time. that being said, i do beleive your pics are genuine and i still think you did an awesome job. nice buds man.

 

[donnieosmond]

Well a door is 6'6"... so that would make your plant 3' 3"........ AND? So what? I look at your pic's of your plants and I see skinny buds. Fuck all to them. I actually laughed to myself. I know what an 8oz plant looks like, and it would dwarf your little thing.

So GK says in his book that it's possible to get 8oz per plant after a 4 week veg'? In soil and from seed under a 400w dual spec'?

I doubt that very much.

He got 8oz. off one plant under 6 or 8 cfls in soil.