SOG growers wanted !!!

dirtysteve

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Well I went and ordered some of the Sure to Grow http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=790&navid=34 1.5" starter cubes. 98 of them for $9 plus shipping. Going to give it a whirl. I will let you all know how it goes. Also re tooling my clone box. Don't really know what the hell is going on but I have lost 3 small mother replacement batches of clones and I am tired of it. I need to sort this out before it is time to take replacement flowering clones. Hard to single out the problem when my first 3 batches of clones in rock wool went perfect and now I am Bugsin' it all up. (sorry Bugs.) The thing is I have been doing it all the same way and now I am having problems. UGH! When it is time for a new batch to go into flower though I am planning using the loose STG. I will post on that too as it happens. Peace.
 

grandpabear3

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Hard to single out the problem when my first 3 batches of clones in rock wool went perfect and now I am Bugsin' it all up. (sorry Bugs.)
very nice......sparkafire would be proud:lol:

and make an aerocloner. it worked for me. or oldintheway has a journal on here about a fool proof rapid rooter cloning process i used to finally get it. then i got the timer for my cloner and have been doing it this way ever since.
 

SpruceZeus

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I'm gonna third the aerocloner reccommendation.

Today is day 8 and they're pretty much ready to plant. I'll let them go another 6 days and they will be well established.

Fucking around with plugs and cubes and pucks is a thing of the past for me. All I've got is consistent rooting everytime.
 

reeferMaster

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i think some green thumb here can help a fella out i have 25 cuttings waiting upon rooting , i have a few ?s cuse i dont want them 2 die like the last batches thier in a 25 site powercloner . n i thought it would be a good idea 2 lower the ph, problem with that is i lowerd it hella far around 4 so i had 2 raise it so now is at 5.9, should i just dump it and use fresh water any imput would be great, do clones even need 2 be phed? should i use my cloning solution at full stength? peace
 

dirtysteve

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I agree that the aero cloner is the way to go. Just going to have to find space for it. I really just wanted to get a look at the STG product. Run a few tests on it. If it is like I think it is, I want to start running the loose fill in my flood tables. Lighter, cheaper, easier, and hopefully, higher yields. Thanks for the input guys, but things are the way they are for now.
 

reeferMaster

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so i shoulnt change the water? i will probly just keep toping off with fresh water. thanks for the advice btw loud blunts i like that quote at the end of your post it makes me laugh every time i read it, the stg stuff looks great i bought a bag for my sister of the loose fill and its made out of recycled animal hair. seems like its very airy and soft almost like lambs wool. i will be using this in 4 inch pots for her veg , haha cuze she dont know what the hell 2 do, its hard 2 teach some one that wants 2 grow and puts no effort into it. good luck 2 all sog growers, i will probly be posting on this site in the future, any one using deep water innovations 2 tray system?
 

grandpabear3

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damn sprucey....wtf do u do to get roots like that in 8 days? i mean exactly what do you do? we need a world class post from you on this one buddy.
 

dirtysteve

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STG is made of PET with PE binders. That is plastic. The stuff they make is bio-degradable. No animal hair involved.
 

SpruceZeus

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damn sprucey....wtf do u do to get roots like that in 8 days? i mean exactly what do you do? we need a world class post from you on this one buddy.
Okay, well first. We need some music.
[youtube]DQ9TsewLHto[/youtube]
Aptly named group and song for this post.

I wish I had some fancy secret to fill you in on, but it's all pretty straight forward stuff.

I prefer big clones, they seem to root a little faster. But hey, sometimes you've gotta clone what you've gotta clone.
When I take my cuts, on top of scraping the end a little, I also make a slit or 2 down the side, this seems to really speed up the formation of good roots.
Then I give them a dunk in rooting gel, I don't have a peticular brand loyalty, but lately I've been buying this stuff because it contains .65% iba rather than the .55% most other brands seem to sport.


In reality you could probably just pour the stuff in the reservoir, seeing as the sprayers take it all off the plants within an hour, but for some reason I insist on doing it this way.

Lighting is just a plain floro shop light I had lying around with daylight bulbs in it. I keep it about 10" from the tops of the clones.

I run the sprayers 24/7, I've heard a cycle timer can speed up roots, but i'm cheap.

I use regular tap water, which comes out here about about 6.5 ph. I don't even bother lowering it at all.

I have a little 12 dollar, fixed temperature, submersable aquarium heater that keeps it a steady 79f. I leave it on until all (or most, I always take about 50% more cuts than I need, so I can pick the best ones.) of my cuts have at least one substantial nub. At which point (usually day 4-6) I unplug the heater and do a water change to straight cold tap water (which, over the next day will warm up to, and stay at about 75f), I also add to the reservoir a shot each (about 1/4 the reccommended dose) of prop-o-gator and super b+ at this point.


If i'm taking smaller, wimpier cuts, I'll also add a small splash of no-damp to the first mix, which prevents the dreaded mushy stem. This stuff smells really foul, like turpentine, so I prefer not to use it, but better safe than sorry


And without fail, if I keep my temperatures in check I'll have some nice roots under 2 weeks, sometimes, like this time, under 10 days.


Oh, and as always I'm using 35% h202 at aroun 1ml per gallon at all stages.


I'm currently super blasted on some White Rhino so I hope this makes sense.
 

trouble9039

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Spruce- How do you like that PT cloner? I was looking at that 1 for alittle while before I got the new top for my ezcloner. Those are nice looking root's! These are 2 weeks old from my ezcloner, and then I give them A extra 2 weeks of veg in my old DIY aerocloner's before into my flowering room. They alway's run for 24/7 and never add any additives, I keep my res at 75f, I have alway's used clonex gel and have had 100% success rate. I have thought about using A aero system for mother's.
 

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grandpabear3

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fuck me!!!! i dont get roots like any of you in 3 weeks in my aerocloner
never have. and mine are on a 2 minute on 12 minute off timer. my water is 75 and i just cut em and throw em in the cloner now. i used to scrape and split and use olivias gel and clonex. and never did well. i use ro water , the ph may be a bit low though. i dont get it....bugs stilll sucks at cloning
god i hope sparky doesnt read this
 

LoudBlunts

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btw bugs since you already got the roots excellator, use that. dose at 1mL per gallon

let it works its magic

ph water to 5.5-5.8
 

SpruceZeus

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o0o0o0o can i show off my root porn too?
absolutely!!! Lets see what you've got.


fuck me!!!! i dont get roots like any of you in 3 weeks in my aerocloner
never have. and mine are on a 2 minute on 12 minute off timer. my water is 75 and i just cut em and throw em in the cloner now. i used to scrape and split and use olivias gel and clonex. and never did well. i use ro water , the ph may be a bit low though. i dont get it....bugs stilll sucks at cloning
god i hope sparky doesnt read this
Maybe a voodoo curse?
 

trouble9039

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fuck me!!!! i dont get roots like any of you in 3 weeks in my aerocloner
never have. and mine are on a 2 minute on 12 minute off timer. my water is 75 and i just cut em and throw em in the cloner now. i used to scrape and split and use olivias gel and clonex. and never did well. i use ro water , the ph may be a bit low though. i dont get it....bugs stilll sucks at cloning
god i hope sparky doesnt read this


I run RO in mine and keep the ph at 5.5 until I have root's and then I take it to 5.8! Are you putting the gel's in the refrigerator? And does your RO have A DI section on it? If it does have A DI get your water before the DI! I sometime doe the scarification and sometimes I just cut them up the stem, The 1's in the pic's are 2 weeks and I did use some scarification on them.
 
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