2012 Doomsday?

DaMidnightToker

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No, it said it hasn't happened for eons. Its due again in 2012. And I would agree with the comparison in size having no affect but they obviously have some affect. It says when both Saturn and Jupiter are on the same side of the sun, solar activity is at its weakest, when they are on either side, solar activity is at its strongest. Why would this be if they didn't have an influence. Sorry but your comparison as a satellite to earth is rediculous. These are huge forms of mass were talking about. Not only the influence from these planets but somthing else has made a disturbance in solar activity with a mass much larger than Jupiter.... the Milky Way! Which brings forth the galactic allignment. Not only will the galactic allignment occur, but we will be exzactly level with the crust, forming an "x" at the galactic equator, where galactic gravity is the strongest. Being exzactly alligned with the center of the galaxy where mass is at its max, means more gravity thus more influence on the sun.
 
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PadawanBater

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No, it said it hasn't happened for eons. Its due again in 2012. And I would agree with the comparison in size having no affect but they obviously have some affect. It says when both Saturn and Jupiter are on the same side of the sun, solar activity is at its weakest, when they are on either side, solar activity is at its strongest. Why would this be if they didn't have an influence. Sorry but your comparison as a satellite to earth is rediculous. These are huge forms of mass were talking about. Not only the influence from these planets but somthing else has made a disturbance in solar activity with a mass much larger than Jupiter.... the Milky Way! Which brings forth the galactic allignment. Not only will the galactic allignment occur, but we will be exzactly level with the crust, forming an "x" at the galactic equator, where galactic gravity is the strongest. Being exzactly alligned with the center of the galaxy where mass is at its max, means more gravity thus more influence on the sun.

How do you suggest the Mayans, who lived before Copernicus, discovered to the day when the Earth would enter into the 'galactic plane'?

Everything I've read about the 'galactic plane' is 2012 hype and disinformation, nothing scientific at all. Which suggests that there's nothing significant about it affecting life on Earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6Y9XOytlQ

The analogy was accurate.
 

DaMidnightToker

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I never suggested the Mayans knew about anything galactic, the date this will occur just happens to be the date the Mayan calender ends on. You bring a good point with that link, but the nearest star to the sun, is Alpha Centauri and is over 4 lightyears away. The size is a bit bigger than the sun, but to far away to make an impact. A satellites density compared to earth is miniscule, while the sun is much bigger than Saturn and Jupiter, a satellite still doesn't compare. In no way am I a firm believer in the actual destruction of earth or humanity on 12/21/2012, its all just very interesting how it fits together. Which is why I can't just throw the possability out the window.
 

SatansGift

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2012 is just the dawn of a new age. An age of enlightenment and science. Hopefully one where humanity can get past it's NEED for dogma. Man's greatest downfall is religion and faith. Chris Rock said it best in the movie dogma "I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant."
 
stupid fly, i thought it was real for a sec. now i gotta clean the fingerprints off my screen.

and while i think that most of the 2012 thing will just be a rehash of y2k, it will be interesting to see what will happen.
I cant wait till i start hearing everyone talk more and more about this, cause its about time that the incredibly biased fear based news companies cash in on this,
 

KiLLeR RiP 420

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The myan calender is more accurate than ares today and even the da vinci code talks about doomsday around 2012 also the bible talks about it and it dosent exactly mean where are all going to die. I think human kind deserves it anyways.
 

robert 14617

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i was told Y2K was the end so i sold everything and moved into a bunker, now i live in a van down by the river
 
I just finished reading an okay book (Apocalypse 2012) that explores the whole 12/21/2012 hype by a very respected natural science journalist. The first half of the book was really good, going over mostly factual information that was easy to cross-reference. The second half of the book was all religiousness and spirituality bullshit, which was a disappointing turn.

Either way, most of you have the story wrong....That date is the end of the long count calendar, the second longest calendar the Mayans had, out of like 20-30 different calendars. Their calendars were based on tracking cycles, like gestation cycles for people and important livestock, planetary motions, solar and lunar patterns, geological patterns and much larger scale astronomical patterns.

The long count calendar is roughly 5,125 years long. The parent calendar to the long count calendar is put together by 5-cycles of the long count calendar, this equals roughly 26,000 years and is the cycle of precession for Earth. Precession is the period of time it takes for the axis of a rotating object to go through it's own rotation. SO, the axis the earth rotates on rotates it's own axis every 26,000 years.

The Maya broke that cycle into 5 smaller cycles (the long count calendar); apparently they chose 5 cycles for no reason other than they believed there were 5 basic elements to the universe, fire, earth, air, water and ether. The 5 cycles take place in that order. So by their view Dec. 21 2012 is Not the end of the world, it is the end of the fourth long count, the Water cycle, and the beginning of the fifth long count, the Ether cycle. In their tradition the Ether cycle is supposed to be an age of enlightenment, but also the loss of ignorance and the illogical. In their folklore the Ether cycle is when knowledge reigns and the unrighteous and disillusioned suffer or are lost.

The Mayans were not doomsday believers and were not a death-obsessed culture. They believed that everything took place in cycles, including time. Additionally, death was not something they feared like most modern cultures, it was a valued and revered part of life, part of the cycle of life, not the end of a linear process.

Someone in one of the other posts mentioned their doubt that a culture that old and that long-gone could've possibly calculated such cycles as the solar flare cycles. But not only did they calculate them but their calculations were more precise than western calculations were up until the advent of electronic calculators. Their solar calendar (as in the calendar year) was accurate to within 22 minutes! They were a math and astronomy obsessed society whose abilities were far beyond anyone else's. They had an understanding of calculus that we didn't have until 1,000 years after they were gone. They had calcualted Pi to like the 6th decimal place which took us until like the 18th century or something. Their understanding of math and astronomy was enormous and should be respected, not doubted. It is well documented and accepted by the anthropological and archealogical fields.

Lastly, the ide of the galatic plane intersection is a misinterpretation of the fact that on Dec. 21 2012, the sun will eclipse the center of the galaxy from Earth. Odd coincidence or non-coincidence, it is an example of accepting that dead and lost cultures could have very well understood things that we do not yet.
 

edwardtheclean

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if i was rich, i would have been had an underground facility, im sure our world will end one day, there is alot of things that could mess up, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, humans are a mere 400 million or something, so as far as the world ending, not likely, but humans could very well be wiped off, so why not blaze herbal enlightenment's in the mean time?
 
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PadawanBater

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if i was rich, i would have been had an underground facility, im sure our world will end one day, there is alot of things that could mess up, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, humans are a mere 400 million or something, so as far as the world ending, not likely, but humans could very well be wiped off, so why not blaze herbal enlightenment's in the mean time?

No disrespect at all here ed, I'm just picky about these kinds of things...

Humans have been around for 2.4 million years, with the earliest being homo habilis out of Africa.

Totally agree with that last bit, blaaaaze away bro, blaze away! bongsmilie

:mrgreen:
 

edwardtheclean

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ahhh, haha ,thanks for the correction bro, i knew it was some hundred million number, how long has marijuana been on earth???
 
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PadawanBater

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ahhh, haha ,thanks for the correction bro, i knew it was some hundred million number, how long has marijuana been on earth???

lol that I'd like to know!

I know the Chinese were tokin' up some 12,000 years ago... that could be wrong, just stuff I've heard.

I do know that weed originated in Asia though.
 
I read recently that archeologists believe that the common religious drink in pre-judaism Mesopotamia, Soma, was actually a marijuana tea. Descriptions of the plant and artistic depictions tend to support this. It is also believed in some circles that controlled agriculture and subsequent controlled breeding of stronger varieties is what led to the explosion of religions during that time period (10-20,000 years ago). Some even speculate that the burning bush Moses spoke to, which revealed the location of the 10 commandments, was actually a metaphor or mistranslation of a shaman (Moses) having a "vision" while smoking marijuana or consuming soma. Additionally, the original oil used by John the Baptist was a mixture of herbs and spices suspended in hemp seed oil!

The relationship between man and cannabis is arguably the most influential trans-species relationship man has had in regards to it's spiritual, cultural and social development!
 

Pumert

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Additionally, the original oil used by John the Baptist was a mixture of herbs and spices suspended in hemp seed oil!
Are you sure because ive herd that it was actually the bud oil

the anointing oil was said to have healing properties hence it being recreated and treating diabetes

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so the THC CBD and other chemicals (with healing properties) would be in the female flower not the seed of low thc hemp strains

if anybody else want to create a modern day holy anointing oil that will get you high and give you healthy skin then heres a link

http://current.com/items/88987762_making-holy-anointing-oil.htm
 
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