Science Over Faith?

[Green Cross]

Well, you need to start a new religion then.... Call it "THE TEN"!

See how far that goes....... ppl like stories and that's what the Bible gives them......stories. The problem is the authors did not mean to be writing anything that they thought would be interpreted as TRUE history.... they were STORIES.....

True history was written by scribes, not anonymous non scribes. The whole problem starts when the church insists that the stories are TRUE, and then go about amassing unbelievable wealth by controlling entire societies with those stories.

Gypsies are in true AWE of the Church..... the ultimate hucksters.

You act like the ten commandments are original...they are not.

I'd rather have a debate with my intellectual equal, because this is plain boring.

Why so you have so much anger, and so much contempt for God fearing people?

You sound a lot like me, before my conversion.

 

[CrackerJax]

No anger involved..... just objectivity.

Try it some time..... everything I wrote except for the Gypsies is true..... very very true.

 

[Green Cross]

No anger involved..... just objectivity.

Try it some time..... everything I wrote except for the Gypsies is true..... very very true.

No, you continuously call out believers, and I'm calling you out. Racism or bigotry against anyone because of race or religion is a good thing in your eyes?

It would be no different than if I were to call out gays each day and question thier beliefs, no?

 

[CrackerJax]

I call out the religion, not the believers. That last part is voluntary (sort of, indoctrination starts early) and up to you.

I call out the DECEPTION.....I call out the FALSEHOOD. If you truly take off the blinders and REALLY look at Christianity or Islam, you will see that it CANNOT be true, the way they say it is. The way millions through the ages have DIED over something made up is APPALLING to me.... it should be to you too.

 

[mexiblunt]

My great-great grandparents were european Gypsies! I always thought thats was pretty cool. They remind me of modern day hippies kinda like I've felt I am.

 

[Green Cross]

My great-great grandparents were european Gypsies! I always thought thats was pretty cool. They remind me of modern day hippies kinda like I've felt I am.

That's cool I used to be a hippie, but I think I'm more of a revolutionary now. Maybe we'll see a return to the hippie days now that the government is ignoring the people again.

"it's better to burn out than fade away"
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[CrackerJax]

Did you see what happened to Madonna last week? Kind of talked up the Gypsies at a concert, and the audience started booing her..... oops.

 

[wm2009]

Can we all agree that the 10 commandments are beneficial to living ones life in an honest and upright way, and if not how do you filter right from wrong? In other words do you have a moral compass, or is right and wrong simply a matter of opinion?

Religion is a tool to control masses, just like the law is.
once you remove the ideo of god from your mind you will notice that there is NO right and wrong at all. it''s all chaotic that's it. Anyone says it's own opinion based on it's own experience, sound good ?

Oh in the future I wish the law to be removed also

 

[CrackerJax]

How about ONE mantra..... just ONE..... no conflict....no interpretation......


Become.... THE ONE...

Enter into THE ONE....


Treat those around you as you wish to be treated.

It's in the TEN GC, so that should please you.
It's concept did not originate from the TEN, so that pleases me.


Middle ground perhaps? No mumbo jumbo...just that one sentence....up on every billboard, every chalkboard, every workplace.... THE ONE

 

[mexiblunt]

That's cool I used to be a hippie, but I think I'm more of a revolutionary now. Maybe we'll see a return to the hippie days now that the government is ignoring the people again.

"it's better to burn out than fade away"
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Funny you post old Neil. He grew up just down the road from me.. for real. I really don't know much at all about the gypsies. My heritage isn't really well known for my family. I've asked my grandparents a bit but even they seem vague. I should have asked my great-grand-mother but she died last year at 104. She was born in Canada but I know her parents were not. The closest I get is they were Prussian is that the right word?

 

[wm2009]

How about ONE mantra..... just ONE..... no conflict....no interpretation......


Become.... THE ONE...

Enter into THE ONE....


Treat those around you as you wish to be treated.

It's in the TEN GC, so that should please you.
It's concept did not originate from the TEN, so that pleases me.


Middle ground perhaps? No mumbo jumbo...just that one sentence....up on every billboard, every chalkboard, every workplace.... THE ONE

No thanks, as for now I don't want to hear anything about Dharma and Super-Uranus and such gay things
I think anyone should live alone in the chaos, and if he gets crazy at least he tried

 

[CrackerJax]

So u don't live by that principle..... thanks for sharing!

 

[fish601]

fish, the point being made is that yeah sure... while there are infact good parts of the bible... there's a lot of shitty parts too. You guys like to dismiss all the bad stuff and say "oh well that was the OT, the NT is what applies to today.." - always giving some excuse... excuse after excuse for everything to make up for the faults of this impossible belief. If Christianity was the absolutel truth we should all live by, don't you think it would be a little easier to believe?

And why the hell do you give one sentence replies.. how old are you man? Is this a complete waste of my time?

I dont know of any shitty parts, why make an excuse? who you been talking to lol

one sentence replies because you are dead set believing evolution if fact 100% true when its not. you are dead set on believing dating methods are accurate when they are not.

You are completley wrong about the bible

I know there is alot of truth in science you just fail to realize they are people who make mistakes

 

[CrackerJax]

It's not a spiritual problem, it's a psychological problem. The two become one. Fish can never let it go.

 

[hanimmal]

one sentence replies because you are dead set believing evolution if fact 100% true when its not. you are dead set on believing dating methods are accurate when they are not.

My question to you fish, very simple, what is your understanding of accurate with some real world examples. I am not being patronizing here, I just think this is a good jumping off point for us.

 

[fish601]

My question to you fish, very simple, what is your understanding of accurate with some real world examples. I am not being patronizing here, I just think this is a good jumping off point for us.

there is no way they can tell what earth was like 1million years ago all the dating methods assume that everything was the way it is now

 

[Sure Shot]

Religulous folks assume following a book will give them eternity!

 

[Anonymiss1969]

there is no way they can tell what earth was like 1million years ago all the dating methods assume that everything was the way it is now

You totally dodged the question asked by Hannimal.

 

[PadawanBater]

there is no way they can tell what earth was like 1million years ago all the dating methods assume that everything was the way it is now

You're either completely misinformed or blatantly lying.

 

[hanimmal]

Quote:
Originally Posted by hanimmal
My question to you fish, very simple, what is your understanding of accurate with some real world examples. I am not being patronizing here, I just think this is a good jumping off point for us.

there is no way they can tell what earth was like 1million years ago all the dating methods assume that everything was the way it is now

No I get that you don't think that dating methods work, I am asking what you feel is a real world example of accuracy.