Science Over Faith?

CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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No one can follow the Bible and not get arrested.

Ppl can only follow bits and pieces..... this alone should tell you something is wrong with the Bible. It is not infallible. It is NOT the word.

People during the Spanish Inquisition were actually FOLLOWING the letter of the Bible. They were TRUE believers..... look at what society thinks of that period.
 
jfgordon1

jfgordon1

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CrackerJax said:
People during the Spanish Inquisition were actually FOLLOWING the letter of the Bible. They were TRUE believers..... look at what society thinks of that period.
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That's exactly why i think every believer is a fraud. They don't truly believe...

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doobnVA

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CrackerJax said:
No one can follow the Bible and not get arrested.

Ppl can only follow bits and pieces..... this alone should tell you something is wrong with the Bible. It is not infallible. It is NOT the word.

People during the Spanish Inquisition were actually FOLLOWING the letter of the Bible. They were TRUE believers..... look at what society thinks of that period.
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I'm glad there's at least one thing we can agree on.
 
CrackerJax

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Oh you'd be surprised what we might agree upon. I have very liberal ideas and concepts..... but when dealing with other ppl's money (the citizens who actually work for it day in and day out), I demand a certain fiscal responsibility.

I want to help ppl..... The govt. USED to hold that same belief.....now they just help themselves and point fingers.
 
fish601

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CrackerJax said:
No one can follow the Bible and not get arrested.

Ppl can only follow bits and pieces..... this alone should tell you something is wrong with the Bible. It is not infallible. It is NOT the word.

People during the Spanish Inquisition were actually FOLLOWING the letter of the Bible. They were TRUE believers..... look at what society thinks of that period.
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just to name a few

1Jo 4:7 - Show Context Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
Joh 13:34 - Show Context "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Joh 13:35 - Show Context By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

Ro 13:9 - Show Context The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.
Ro 12:10 - Show Context Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.
 
fish601

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lol, it means he doesnt know what he is talking about, he said he has read the bible but i cant tell it.
its pretty obvious to anyone (well almost anyone) that love is a major part of the bible
 
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fish601 said:
lol, it means he doesnt know what he is talking about, he said he has read the bible but i cant tell it.
its pretty obvious to anyone (well almost anyone) that love is a major part of the bible
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fish, the point being made is that yeah sure... while there are infact good parts of the bible... there's a lot of shitty parts too. You guys like to dismiss all the bad stuff and say "oh well that was the OT, the NT is what applies to today.." - always giving some excuse... excuse after excuse for everything to make up for the faults of this impossible belief. If Christianity was the absolutel truth we should all live by, don't you think it would be a little easier to believe?

And why the hell do you give one sentence replies.. how old are you man? Is this a complete waste of my time? :-(
 
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just for the magic

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i believe the book of genesis is more a case of "to cut a long story short". We are only now just scraping the surface of the "big bang theory" I would think when the biblical authors penned there story, an explosion of even the smallest kind would be hard to grasp, let alone one on the scale of universe creating size
 
CrackerJax

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Notice how when FISH is faced with an uncomfortable truth he deflects away.

You are disingenuous FISH......... you are a hypocrite.
 
Green Cross

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CrackerJax said:
Notice how when FISH is faced with an uncomfortable truth he deflects away.

You are disingenuous FISH......... you are a hypocrite.
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I'd like to pick up this debate

I read as far back as "there aree lots of shitting parts... (in the bible) whatever that means.

Can we all agree that the 10 commandments are beneficial to living ones life in an honest and upright way, and if not how do you filter right from wrong? In other words do you have a moral compass, or is right and wrong simply a matter of opinion?
 
Green Cross

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just for the magic said:
i believe the book of genesis is more a case of "to cut a long story short". We are only now just scraping the surface of the "big bang theory" I would think when the biblical authors penned there story, an explosion of even the smallest kind would be hard to grasp, let alone one on the scale of universe creating size
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I'm also happy to answer this question:

Genesis describes the creation of this earth age (the current one), and Man's relationship with God - nothing more - but why would God (if you believe in a God) have a hard time grasping anything, assuming the Bible is the inspired word of God.
 
Green Cross

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Green Cross said:
I'm also happy to answer this question:

Genesis describes the creation of this earth age (the current one), and Man's relationship with God - nothing more - but why would God (if you believe in a God) have a hard time grasping anything, assuming the Bible is the inspired word of God.
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Did I stump my Liberal friends, with the 10 commandments? :confused:Google it, if you're unfamiliar with them, and if we could please keep the questions and answers to a paragraph or 2...
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Green Cross said:
I'd like to pick up this debate

I read as far back as "there aree lots of shitting parts... (in the bible) whatever that means.

Can we all agree that the 10 commandments are beneficial to living ones life in an honest and upright way, and if not how do you filter right from wrong? In other words do you have a moral compass, or is right and wrong simply a matter of opinion?
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A few problems with that.

1.) That is the Jewish faith, not the Christian. OLD testament is a hijacked testament. The simple answer for this of course is that Christians are really rebel Jews. Jesus tried to bring about a NEW G*D to the JEWS. No one else was included by the way....only JEWS. That is why he was killed....like any other rabble rouser.

2.) The ten Commandments are hardly original thought. One doesn't need the ENTIRE Bible to follow 10 old ideas.

3.) No one actually pays attention to most of the Commandments. They are broken all the time, and are ESPECIALLY broken in the OLD testament as well as the new.

There are better ways to control people.
 
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just for the magic

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Green Cross said:
I'm also happy to answer this question:

Genesis describes the creation of this earth age (the current one), and Man's relationship with God - nothing more - but why would God (if you believe in a God) have a hard time grasping anything, assuming the Bible is the inspired word of God.
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I don't believe in anything that a human may claim to be an authority on. You are all so far up yourselves. So sure, so vain. So self centered.........except when things are at there worst. Then u shine and you will be called sons and daughters of God
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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CrackerJax said:
A few problems with that.

1.) That is the Jewish faith, not the Christian. OLD testament is a hijacked testament. The simple answer for this of course is that Christians are really rebel Jews. Jesus tried to bring about a NEW G*D to the JEWS. No one else was included by the way....only JEWS. That is why he was killed....like any other rabble rouser.

2.) The ten Commandments are hardly original thought. One doesn't need the ENTIRE Bible to follow 10 old ideas.

3.) No one actually pays attention to most of the Commandments. They are broken all the time, and are ESPECIALLY broken in the OLD testament as well as the new.

There are better ways to control people.
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I'm already losing patience when you can't even stay on point.

The question was are the 10 commandments a good moral compass, and if not what is?

1. Off topic, and an insult to Jews and Christians.

FYI Jesus was crucified by the Romans, because he posed a political threat to the Sanhedrin.

2. Debating where the commandments originated. Also off topic

3. Pointing out the obvious - human nature is sinful. How do you admit this and at the same time argue that Science can save us.

The question was are the 10 commandments a good moral compass, and if not what is? :wall:
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Well, you need to start a new religion then.... Call it "THE TEN"!

See how far that goes....... ppl like stories and that's what the Bible gives them......stories. The problem is the authors did not mean to be writing anything that they thought would be interpreted as TRUE history.... they were STORIES.....

True history was written by scribes, not anonymous non scribes. The whole problem starts when the church insists that the stories are TRUE, and then go about amassing unbelievable wealth by controlling entire societies with those stories.

Gypsies are in true AWE of the Church..... the ultimate hucksters.

You act like the ten commandments are original...they are not.
 
doobnVA

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Green Cross said:
I'm also happy to answer this question:

He didn't ask a question. He made a statement.

 Genesis describes the creation of this earth age (the current one), and Man's relationship with God - nothing more - but why would God (if you believe in a God) have a hard time grasping anything, assuming the Bible is the inspired word of God.
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Who said god would have a hard time grasping anything? The statement referred to the authors of the bible, and it was a statement, not a question.
 
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