RetiredToker76
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Where do I get my information? From a co-worker who is in a similar bind but is already feeling the heat. We had the exact same health care until his state switched to being a universal health care provider, I think it was Mass. He sent me the insurance information on his 'new' 'free' health care. His property taxes increased 14% to cover it and his state income taxes increased almost 20% to cover it. We both require the same procedure for different ailments.Where did you get this information? The health care bill is in it's infant stages, so I didn't think they made any decisions like this about coverage of specific procedures. Are you speaking theoretically? Because I'm quite sure that under any kind of health care system we implement, you can get almost any necessary and preventative procedure paid for if recommended by your PCP.
The result of the change to 'universal' health care was that he had to sell his house because of the property tax increase, he went from living within his means to being forced outside them because of the tax, he'd lived in his house for 15 years. He rented an apartment 1/3 the size of his house because it was all he could afford after paying both the income taxes and his new private insurance prices which are 300% what the prices on his old insurance was.
After reviewing his new 'state provided' policy I found that it plainly states that the 'scope' used for the procedure we need is classified as 'experimental' and therefore is not covered by the plan. Throw in the fact that we're both under 40 and the state won't cover using a scope with a lower resolution to try and find the polyps either.
Serrated Adenoma polyps can only be seen with this specific 'experimental' scope. Regular scopes can see Serrated Adenoma TUMORS, but not the polyps. Once it's a tumor survivability of Serrated Adenoma Colon Cancer is 1%. The average life span once it's gone cancerous is less than 3 years. Since this new scope just discovered that the polyps can be found doctors realizing that many men develop the condition long before their first colonoscopy at age 40, usually the polyp forms around around age 35, this is not recognized by the AMA yet because it's all still 'trial' and 'experimental.' Therefore the procedure not covered under my co-workers state provided health care because he and I are under age 40. In my case I'd be dead. It was a dumb bacterial infection that saved my life last year and they used the specific scope on me because it was the one that could see the bacterial infection and fully diagnose it instead of throwing penicillin at it. Luckily my doctor did that and found the serrated adenoma polyp thereby saving my life, ironically the bacterial infection has cleared itself up when I got in for the procedure.
The 'infant' federal 'free' health care system is currently greatly based on what my co-workers state free health care is. That's my data. Someone with a similar situation who has lost his house, and over 40% of his income to 'free' health care so he can stay alive. If the plan isn't modified GREATLY from what his state is doing then I too will lose my house, probably my car, have to work 60+ hours a week, and THEN I will be able to keep my life. I could be wrong about his state because the computer with all the information on it is currently crashed, but I think his state is Mass, but I'm not 100% sure.
If that doesn't sound like government health CONTROL, I don't know what does. The government exists to provide roads and national security. That's IT! Congress over the last 100 years has take more and more control of our lives and our money, our grandparents sat through it with the new deal, our parents sat through it with Reganomics, and now we're 'gladly' accepting more congressional control of our lives with the credit card regulation, the purchase of GM by the feds, and finally this POS idea of 'free health care for all.'
Someone mention Darwinism earlier, while I would gladly go out on a limb to help someone survive if it were within my means it is NOT the job of the federal government to decide who lives and who dies based on how desperate they are. Under the state plan that the feds are basing their plan on I will be removed from the category of self sufficient to being dependent upon them for my health, and they are currently not interested in my well being in the direction they are headed. So the fact that I went to school for 20 years, clawed my way into being moderately successful, and continue to strive for 'better living' has made me target of the federal government, and as of today their intent us to kill me. I fall under 'abnormal circumstances' that the plan doesn't expect to cover, ever.
If this bill passes I will be revoking my citizenship and relocating to a nation where the people are expected to provide for themselves and not hang off the tit of mother government.
Since I have no children and much to my disappointment it is looking like fertility testing is going to show that my wife and I cannot conceive why do I have to pay ad valorum taxes on my property to pay for the local schools? It's looking highly unlikely I will ever have my genetic code darkening the doors of an academic institution ever again, yet I have to pay for it? Then there's this new 'plan' that is almost certainly going to drive me into either poverty or death, and those are my only two choices and I have to pay for that TOO?
This nation was founded my people of independence. They were people who fought, bled, and died in order to NOT be controlled. So far I see the government controlling the economy by buying up faulty corporations, controlling the economy by regulating how lending institutions punish people who violate a signed contract, and then by controlling us personally by regulating how we are allowed to receive our health care.
We already pay taxes to cover free health care. If you're not dealing weed on the streets look at your paystub, there's Medicare and Medicaid taxes built into your W4 witholdings, since those systems are failing we'll have to pay for BOTH the medicare and medicaid programs AND this new program as well, since there is no talk of removing those two free health care programs.
IMO if you work your ass off to attain a station in life, you deserve the be able to care for yourself better than someone who hasn't put effort into succeeding. Next thing you know there will be government issued Fillet Mignon's given to the homeless while those of us with salary jobs can only afford ramen, and we won't get the government issued Fillet's because we have enough money to buy ramen. That makes SO MUCH sense.
We need to let nature work its course and let those who can, survive and those who refuse to try, perish. Sure it's cold hearted, but all society will fall if we punish the successful for being successful wand reward the worthless for being worthless.
GM should have simply died, another investor would have purchased it and turned it around. Credit Card companies should be allowed to fine and penalize those who do not make their monthly payments. Finally, Doctors who spring $17M for a camera to shove up the ass of their patients should be allowed to charge the necessary fees required to cover the costs of that camera. The people who can afford these services on their merit should be able to chose to purchase them, not lose the ability to purchase them so a damned homeless drunk can get free dialysis so he can live to drink some more. If he's a drunk who can afford dialysis fine let him have it, but if he destroyed his liver instead of working or going to school, let him die!
-RT76