Doing MDMA with a friend, concerned about dose

growwwww

Well-Known Member
I dont know if you said this or not. But MDMA use isint used to treat depression as such. But for things like marriage councelling, its because they would roll together ( literally :D ) and have such a bonding experience that they may regain love with each other.
I know a couple who trip together and they love it so much, its so bonding they say. Its such a special thing to do with a special person.

And in peter jennings ectasy rising it says that ecstasy can be use for post trauma like after being raped and stuff. Like when its really really difficult to see any light - maybe MDMA gives people light, makes them feel love again. But its done under clinical conditions and everything is explained to the people and stuff.
Anywayyyyyyy
that was a cool read that erowid thing, im sure it will be okay
 

tDot.

Well-Known Member
Dont ever eat a roll, stick to the molly!!
Agreed. It's MDMA powdew, and from what I'm told by more experienced rollers, it's pretty good stuff.

If she suffers from clinical depression, I would not advise that she take MDMA. Is she on any depression medication? You should not do MDMA if on an MAOI, and SSRI's will decrease the effects.
I know a couple years ago she had a mild case of clinical depression. She seems to be doing a lot better now though. I'm pretty sure she's not on any antidepressants, although I was gonna ask her anyways.

be careful dude, spinal fluid buildup possibility with too much causing OD.. girlfriend in high school did it every week for 4 months and wound up in a mental institution.. SEX was GREAT though hahahahah I'm terrible.. oh well rock on! :P
.2g is far from OD, I'm just worried whether the effects might be too intense for her first time. I want it to be a good experience for both of us, y'know?
 

mswr

Member
Hey tDot.,

I'm normally not one to speak up in online communities (I tend to use them as a knowledge bases only) but ecstasy is my favorite recreational drug and I feel somewhat obligated to share with you.

I was clinically depressed at a very young age due to a bad breakup with my first love. It wasn't a mild depression, it was a severe one. One that's haunted me up until today (which is one reason I was approved as a medical marihuana patient in both California and Michigan). It helps, but nothing helps as much as pure MDMA (cut pills/MDMA are another matter).

I've done pressed pills cut with heroine, methadone, coke, meth, LSD, and even DMX (which was a god awful experience). I've also done both cut and pure MDMA in every possible way.

Now that I've gone over all that hopefully you'll listen to what I have to say even though my post count is so low & I have no reputation here.

Question #1:
She has experience depression in the past and I don't want to make any of that worse as she seems to be doing better these days.
First, make sure you guys don't do anything cut then. I have never had a bad roll with pure MDMA (& remember I'm clinically depressed). Ecstasy in pill or powder form cut with other drugs cause other effects sometimes undesirable. In addition, you have the chance (a high chance) with cut ecstasy to have a come down and get either severely mad or severely depressed. Not a good thing. Pure MDMA has no come downs what so ever. It's awesome :-P.

Question #2:
Also, I bought MDMA from two different people and both of them considered .2g a standard dose, and I found the effects quite pleasant, and not at all overwhelming, but whenever I see anyone mention a dose over 150mg on forums and other sites, people always say it's probably too much, or it'll glue you to the floor, etc. Is there something I'm missing here?
0.2 grams is the standard dose and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot (no disrespect intended). I've taken 0.2 grams in time released capsules and also by parachuting it. The latter being a much better experience. Time released capsules leave you wanting more the entire roll... which is pretty disappointing :/. Oh! and by the way, when you parachute something use a small amount of toilet paper... not a zig zag paper. Just some advice.

Question #3:
.2g is far from OD, I'm just worried whether the effects might be too intense for her first time. I want it to be a good experience for both of us, y'know?
0.2 grams is a-ok for first time users! The most intense thing I've ever seen that amount do to someone was have a friend lay on his bed for like 5-10 minutes rubbing all over himself with his girlfriend laughing hysterically (she wasn't rolling at the time). It was his first time rolling and afterwards he told us those first 5-10 minutes were like having a full body orgasm and he loved every second of it! It was a great time lol :lol:.

Oh you're also right about 0.2 grams being far from over dosing. My first time doing pure MDMA I took 1.1 grams in one night (which was completely retarded might I add) but I lived to see the next day and actually had a pretty damn good roll.

Anyway, I hope I answered all your questions and the post was informative. I love the drug and I love helping people have a good roll. Some last minute tips:

1. Try smoking menthols. Especially Newports or Marlboro Smooths. It can feel great.

2. Mary Jane, well, her and Adam go very well together ;).

and last but not least...

3. Listen to some techno! Just try it whether you like it or not. Trust me. Daft Punk: Faster, Harder, Stronger is always a good choice. Khmer Kid: Smoke Weed can be too (even though it's not techno).

And remember, rollin is all about having a good time... and to have a good time you need to be somewhere comfortable and safe. Anyway, I could say a million more things but I think I've let this post get long enough. Peace man.

P.S. Stay hydrated but don't chug. Or else you might... well... :spew::/ lol.
 

Ganjaglutin

New Member
I Think I Might Have Mentioned That Already In This Thread. Could Be Another....

Small amounts Of LSD Isn't Impossible To Be Cut With MDMA But Like Said Would Be Noticeable.
 

mswr

Member
Where did you find molly?

Fucking lucky.

Cant find anyone here
I went to Cal State East Bay and then Berkely while living in the bay (Hayward, Berkely, and then later on even East Oakland). All those places are very liberal which makes it easy to get just about anything. Especially Berkely :bigjoint:.

You just need to know the right crowds and know your "stuff", ya know what I mean?

Anyway on to this:
Anyone who thinks theyve had ecstasy pills cut with heroin, lsd, or coke is an idiot.
http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=25
You're wrong man. Everything on that page is correct, but no where does it state it's impossible to cut ecstasy with those drugs. You miss interpreted their answer. They merely state it's extremely unlikely to be cut with those drugs and for very good reason. It would be a bad business decision. That's why it's so popular to cut ecstasy with DMX in the Midwest (which I have also lived).

When I was a teenager, I lived in Northern Indiana and my best bud's uncle was a local ecstasy dealer. I did ecstasy for the first time at 14 and I got the pill from him. I don't mind sharing this as it's all water under the bridge. He got busted and did his time. He no longer does anything illegal and is a honest hard working American. Anyway.

He used to make two batches at a time when he pressed his pills. One larger and one smaller... the larger batch being cut with something cheap like DMX and intended for sale. The smaller batch was used as personal and normally cut with coke. He said he liked the high better then straight MDMA. I always remembered that.

Now not only did I do ecstasy cut with both cocaine and meth back as a teenager and in the Midwest, I've also made my own pills while living in the Bay and going to Berkeley. I like to research drugs. It's a hobby and I really don't think drugs are bad when used properly.

Everything has a purpose, eh? Plus it's fun for me ;-).

I made my pills by mixing my filler (whatever drug I wanted) and molly in capsules. So hom36rown please don't call me an idiot when I say I've had ecstasy pills cut with heroin, LSD, or coke... because I have. If I'm going to take the time to write a post I'm not going to waste time lying. I've also made my own opium using wild poppy seeds from fields found in Berkeley.

Oh yeah, and don't think I'm rich or anything because I'm not. I got through college on mostly scholarships, grants, and student loans. I was actually pretty poor but I didn't let that ruin anything :).

And I got extra money which I used for pretty much everything else by growing and selling this to a local club:

(I grew legally too. So no worries there. Oh yeah, this is the same weed I grew and sold to the club, but it's a picture of some personal.)

Ok?

And to this:
I Didnt Find Much Wrong With That Post. Kudos!
Thanks man :bigjoint:.
 

imanoob

Well-Known Member
proper mdma from somebody you can trust is reaaaally fucking good. Think your first pill...multiply by 4 and your prob about there.

watch out for the rave claw/shaky jaw haha

Edit - oops forgot to say. we took .5g each (split into two wraps) ...wrap in a rizzla paper and your on your way....to the freaking moon haha!
 

Ganjaglutin

New Member
You've Done XTC Cut With Heroin? Not Only Would That Be A Bad Business Choice Heroin Has Less Than %35 Oral Activity And If It Did Work The Effects Are Opposite Of Whats Wanted So Theres That. The Only Thing That Makes Sense To Cut And Press With Is Meth. And Seeing As How Where I Am Is Flooded With Meth I See It Alot.

Thats All That I Had A Problem With....
 

mswr

Member
You've Done XTC Cut With Heroin? Not Only Would That Be A Bad Business Choice Heroin Has Less Than %35 Oral Activity And If It Did Work The Effects Are Opposite Of Whats Wanted So Theres That. The Only Thing That Makes Sense To Cut And Press With Is Meth. And Seeing As How Where I Am Is Flooded With Meth I See It Alot.

Thats All That I Had A Problem With....
Yes I've done XTC cut with heroin... and there's nothing that great about it. I personally like my MDMA cut with a little meth.

Anyway, is anyone going to Lovefest this year? I'll be there :blsmoke:.
 

Ganjaglutin

New Member
Meth Is For Idiots (No Offense). It's The Worse Drug Out There. I Did It Once And Fucking Hated It. Everybody Needs To Do There Own Thing In Life But Meth Is The Only Drug I Think Should Be On Schedule One And It's On Fucking Two. I Like PCP Better And I Also Hate That. I've Seen Peoples Lives Ruined On Meth, Die On Meth, Physically And Mentally Harm Their Most Beloved Ones Because They Where Addicted To Meth. Mug And Rape On Meth. It's Just A Disgusting Drug.
 

growwwww

Well-Known Member
Meth Is For Idiots (No Offense). It's The Worse Drug Out There. I Did It Once And Fucking Hated It. Everybody Needs To Do There Own Thing In Life But Meth Is The Only Drug I Think Should Be On Schedule One And It's On Fucking Two. I Like PCP Better And I Also Hate That. I've Seen Peoples Lives Ruined On Meth, Die On Meth, Physically And Mentally Harm Their Most Beloved Ones Because They Where Addicted To Meth. Mug And Rape On Meth. It's Just A Disgusting Drug.
Ive seen people mug and rape for money and sex, they should so both be on schedule 1.

Besides the point,

But yeah, some drugs take it too far. Everyone should keep it cool, and to what they can handle - safely - responsibly - enjoyably.
 

Ganjaglutin

New Member
Money Is The Core For Are Economy And Even Though Are Economy Is Shit And Money Is The Devil It's Not Going To Be Outlawed.

Sex Is Why We Are Here.

:lol:
 

mswr

Member
Meth Is For Idiots (No Offense). It's The Worse Drug Out There. I Did It Once And Fucking Hated It. Everybody Needs To Do There Own Thing In Life But Meth Is The Only Drug I Think Should Be On Schedule One And It's On Fucking Two. I Like PCP Better And I Also Hate That. I've Seen Peoples Lives Ruined On Meth, Die On Meth, Physically And Mentally Harm Their Most Beloved Ones Because They Where Addicted To Meth. Mug And Rape On Meth. It's Just A Disgusting Drug.
None taken. I don't ever encourage people to use meth or cut with it. In most circumstances I hate the drug too. It is a drug that can ruin lives... but so can any other drug when taken to certain extremes. Even marijuana.

However seeing as XTC is a recreational drug I use very seldom nowadays, I am not worried at all about the meth I cut my MDMA with. I am in no way shape or form addicted to either drug and the cut ecstasy gives me a more rave-worthy roll... which is generally what I want.

Like I said earlier everything has a purpose.

growwwww said:
But yeah, some drugs take it too far. Everyone should keep it cool, and to what they can handle - safely - responsibly - enjoyably.
Those are great words and that's exactly what I'm doing :smile:.
 

420swed

Well-Known Member
My first time i was 16 and took 1 gram and so did all my buddies and that night was about a 6-7 hour high and all i wanted to do is move.
 

Ganjaglutin

New Member
Marijuana Dosn't Ruin Lives But It Can Be Mentally Addicting. My Oldest Brother Is Blatantly Addicted. Spends All His Paycheck On Weed, Beer, And His Cellphone Bill. He Lives With His Grandmother.
 

mswr

Member
Marijuana Dosn't Ruin Lives But It Can Be Mentally Addicting. My Oldest Brother Is Blatantly Addicted. Spends All His Paycheck On Weed, Beer, And His Cellphone Bill. He Lives With His Grandmother.
How is being blatantly addicted to a substance, to the point you can't even support yourself, not ruining a life? Whether you are physically or mentally addicted it does not matter. It's an addiction. Period.

I work at home, smoke easily 2-3 ounces a week, and still get to travel the world... and I don't have a single debt collector calling my phone. Why? Because I set my priorities straight. I love Mary Jane with all my heart but I know there are certain things that come before her in life.

I will not let MJ ruin my life like I've personally seen it ruin dozens, maybe even hundreds. If you want examples just ask.
 
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