Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?

[Dr. Greenhorn]

I am just gonna steal everyones strains and just rename them and do some mass marketing.....doesn't take a breeder to do that

be on the lookout for greenhorn seeds....they should be in your area soon.....first strain will be named "ice dream"

 

[deviouslikeyou]

greenhouse always did right by me. widow, hazes, church, alaskan ice..

so dog the man all ya want. some ppl know better. and who gives a crap about using diff genetics and calling it something else. tell me which seed company which hasnt? it is about making $$ and if it doesnt make money, it doesnt make cents,<<

i think alot of the talk comes from word of mouth rather than first hand experience dealing with greenhouse. that or ppl . just mess up their own grows out of silliness and stupidity then blame the breeder. " oh it has to be bad genetics!" all companies have flukes that happen. thats hte risk you take when ya dont make the beans yourself. do a few seed runs and dont buy anymore from the seed banks. thats your best bet.


alaskan ice hybrid that everyone dogged out when it arrived on the scene.....
seemed to grow just fine to me. the smoke is tasty by the way...

haze and widow hybrid<

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

I hear you bro.....but all the same, if you take some genetics and rename it something else, I'm sure the quality is gonna stay the same and won't change with the name. good seeds bring good plants no matter if it was taken and renamed....I got a few strains from good breeders myself and if I decided to just switch the name and market it myself, it is still the same product I stolen .....good shit

 

[SpruceZeus]

So should we have copyrights on plants now?

"yknow, i'd love for you guys to sell some beefsteak tomatoe seeds, but they belong to me, so you may not!!!

Where then do you draw the line?

I'm going to make a claim that all landrace indicas belong to me, noone else may breed them. Have fun with your sativas.

Almost every breeder has a selection of plants that have been bred by someone else. Take white widow for example, find me one reliable breeder (who isn't just a pollen chucker) who doesnt have WW as one of their parents in multiple plants.

Ingemar, the original breeder of WW had this to say when asked whether the GH has the same WW.
: Yes it´s the same one. I gave Arjan the genetics and the name years ago he is the only one that has permission to use the name and genetics
So there you go, everyone else is a theiving businessman, at least arjan had the respect to purchase the plant rather than just jacking it.

 

[Cyproz]

i dont care about them "stealing" or w/e, i care that i go to any number of seed sites and they will have the same copied and pasted info and the same single picture of the strain.

 

[deviouslikeyou]

they tried to copyright music, but now you see how well that stops pirateers right??

or do we say we dont copy music, we simply back up our discs??

i'm simply backing up my greenhouse seeds as we speak.....

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

just so people know.....my opinions are just one of many, doesn't mean I'm right or doesn't mean I'm wrong....its just what it is,...my opinion alohas

 

[w1ckedchowda]

I find that most people who talk shit about Green House Seeds blame anything and everything except themselves.

Some of these kids on here obviously have no clue how to grow and will blame the easiest thing they can: The Breeder. I have nothing but good things to say about GHS, they have quality strains and don't dick you on the prices.

And they don't ship directly but you can buy them at Attitude.

Green House Seeds have won tons of cups and their strains are featured in almost EVERY coffee shop in Holland, you can't argue with that. I don't really buy into the cannabis cup all that much because I think it is hard for some smaller seed companies to win it, it's more about money nowadays.

But, I did smoke GHS strains all over Holland and they were fantastic!

Why is it that Rezdog (creator of chemdog and most of the other BOMB strains) completely shits on him and has no respect for him at all over @ ICMAG? Same with plenty of other reputable and respectful breeders say the same thing, calling him a "fake" breeder and ripping people's strains.

But then again, this is THEIR opinion, not mine since I haven't finished growing or smoked GHS buds EVER.

 

[SpruceZeus]

Why is it that Rezdog (creator of chemdog and most of the other BOMB strains) completely shits on him and has no respect for him at all over @ ICMAG? Same with plenty of other reputable and respectful breeders say the same thing, calling him a "fake" breeder and ripping people's strains.

Easy,

Why does Steve Jobs rag on Bill Gates?

It's a business, Arjan runs the most successful company, therefore, he is the target of all the little guys.
Whether or not you agree with his practices or his PR, you can't deny that greenhouse offers a ton of great strains at a decent price. They're not the end all be all of breeders, but they will continue getting at least some of my business.

 

[bicycle racer]

greenhouse looks fancy and all but do your research and it probably wont be your first choice given the options which are many.

 

[Elite Genetics]

rez didnt create chemdawg but your point is dead on..these well respected breeders are not just hating, if we were all just hating then we would hate on EVERY breeder ..GHS simply sells fakes, fake trainwreck, fake cheese, fake og kush, fake chemdawg, fake sour diesel..these people in the UK do not have the real clones..these are the facts..Rez is right about GHS & i can garantee you that anything from GHS wouldnt even get me high..most normal strains dont anymore, i smoke a whole jay of some 5-7 potency weed & if im lucky i feel a tiny buzz for 5 min., i wish people could understand what they are missing out on by not trying cali kush/diesel/chem & many other strains..they are far superior to anything in europe..it has been legal for along time in cali & there hundreds of clubs all over with people that can legally trade clones/legally breed seeds in mass qty etc.

Why is it that Rezdog (creator of chemdog and most of the other BOMB strains) completely shits on him and has no respect for him at all over @ ICMAG? Same with plenty of other reputable and respectful breeders say the same thing, calling him a "fake" breeder and ripping people's strains.

But then again, this is THEIR opinion, not mine since I haven't finished growing or smoked GHS buds EVER.

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

thx for the recommendations elite!!

 

[Dr. Greenhorn]

I'll be sure to check out your website too..

 

[1kooguy]

Stop hateing on the GreenHouse.If it was'nt for the Dutch breeders,Canadian,USA,etc......CA would'nt have kick ass strains....

 

[trapper]

rez didnt create chemdawg but your point is dead on..these well respected breeders are not just hating, if we were all just hating then we would hate on EVERY breeder ..GHS simply sells fakes, fake trainwreck, fake cheese, fake og kush, fake chemdawg, fake sour diesel..these people in the UK do not have the real clones..these are the facts..Rez is right about GHS & i can garantee you that anything from GHS wouldnt even get me high..most normal strains dont anymore, i smoke a whole jay of some 5-7 potency weed & if im lucky i feel a tiny buzz for 5 min., i wish people could understand what they are missing out on by not trying cali kush/diesel/chem & many other strains..they are far superior to anything in europe..it has been legal for along time in cali & there hundreds of clubs all over with people that can legally trade clones/legally breed seeds in mass qty etc.

fake this fake that,what differaince does it make,half the stories behind the so called super strains are self made for profit,i for one dont believe the chemdog story i think that is fake,and who actually has the real chem dog,hell i hear some kid tell me he smoked some chemdog was messed up the next day,when he was actualy smokeing some muti strain hybrid that some dealer put the name 2,these are all cuttings with no gaurentee that the progeny will be anything.i have got two cuttings of greenhouse that are on over 12 years of cuttings.and to be honest half of these hot new names dont mean shit because no one can proove they are what they are,show me were the dna was kept in some public records.so i buy your seeds i get the real east coast sour diesal is that right,what ever that is.and every chemdog seed planted becomes some super strain,says who some breeder selling seeds.their are a thousands of super hybrids out their that have no name.and if you cant get high by any ghs strains i suggest maybe you dont know how to grow.so is it your opinion only chem dog can get you high,or diesal,or are you saying that your hybrids with the funky names are all that.i dont know you and i dont know how many plants you cull.but i can tell you i wouldnt trade any of my 2 GHS mothers for anything you have, they are that good.So does that mean in my 35 years of smokeing and =travelling the world i just never smoked good weed.but you are a seed salesmen who comes on these forums hawking your wears.it is in you poket books best interest to say you got all the latest 9 potencty weed.but that dont make it fact it makes it salesmenship.and like i have said it seems you have made this forum your personal sales site.and most people dont get good weed because of cash croppers not potency of the strain they bye.but if it makes you feel any better i dont like arjans sales teqniques any better then yours.so thats fair.

 

[Raef]

fake this fake that,what differaince does it make,half the stories behind the so called super strains are self made for profit,i for one dont believe the chemdog story i think that is fake,and who actually has the real chem dog,hell i hear some kid tell me he smoked some chemdog was messed up the next day,when he was actualy smokeing some muti strain hybrid that some dealer put the name 2,these are all cuttings with no gaurentee that the progeny will be anything.i have got two cuttings of greenhouse that are on over 12 years of cuttings.and to be honest half of these hot new names dont mean shit because no one can proove they are what they are,show me were the dna was kept in some public records.so i buy your seeds i get the real east coast sour diesal is that right,what ever that is.and every chemdog seed planted becomes some super strain,says who some breeder selling seeds.their are a thousands of super hybrids out their that have no name.and if you cant get high by any ghs strains i suggest maybe you dont know how to grow.so is it your opinion only chem dog can get you high,or diesal,or are you saying that your hybrids with the funky names are all that.i dont know you and i dont know how many plants you cull.but i can tell you i wouldnt trade any of my 2 GHS mothers for anything you have, they are that good.So does that mean in my 35 years of smokeing and =travelling the world i just never smoked good weed.but you are a seed salesmen who comes on these forums hawking your wears.it is in you poket books best interest to say you got all the latest 9 potencty weed.but that dont make it fact it makes it salesmenship.and like i have said it seems you have made this forum your personal sales site.and most people dont get good weed because of cash croppers not potency of the strain they bye.but if it makes you feel any better i dont like arjans sales teqniques any better then yours.so thats fair.

so, in your opinion what do you think of the dutch passion strains for sale at attitude, most preferrably white widow

 

[Raef]

rez didnt create chemdawg but your point is dead on..these well respected breeders are not just hating, if we were all just hating then we would hate on EVERY breeder ..GHS simply sells fakes, fake trainwreck, fake cheese, fake og kush, fake chemdawg, fake sour diesel..these people in the UK do not have the real clones..these are the facts..Rez is right about GHS & i can garantee you that anything from GHS wouldnt even get me high..most normal strains dont anymore, i smoke a whole jay of some 5-7 potency weed & if im lucky i feel a tiny buzz for 5 min., i wish people could understand what they are missing out on by not trying cali kush/diesel/chem & many other strains..they are far superior to anything in europe..it has been legal for along time in cali & there hundreds of clubs all over with people that can legally trade clones/legally breed seeds in mass qty etc.

so maybe a road trip to the west coast might be enlightening, and more beneficial than buying seeds online?????????

 

[Tagh]

I have to say it. I don't like "flaming" people or w/e you'd like to call it.But...
I think Elite Genetics is a idiot. He constantly dogging on everyone else. See his joke site?
Europeans got some bomb ass dope. I think you got Cali stuck up your ass or something.

 

[Cyproz]

fake this fake that,what differaince does it make,half the stories behind the so called super strains are self made for profit,i for one dont believe the chemdog story i think that is fake,and who actually has the real chem dog,hell i hear some kid tell me he smoked some chemdog was messed up the next day,when he was actualy smokeing some muti strain hybrid that some dealer put the name 2,these are all cuttings with no gaurentee that the progeny will be anything.i have got two cuttings of greenhouse that are on over 12 years of cuttings.and to be honest half of these hot new names dont mean shit because no one can proove they are what they are,show me were the dna was kept in some public records.so i buy your seeds i get the real east coast sour diesal is that right,what ever that is.and every chemdog seed planted becomes some super strain,says who some breeder selling seeds.their are a thousands of super hybrids out their that have no name.and if you cant get high by any ghs strains i suggest maybe you dont know how to grow.so is it your opinion only chem dog can get you high,or diesal,or are you saying that your hybrids with the funky names are all that.i dont know you and i dont know how many plants you cull.but i can tell you i wouldnt trade any of my 2 GHS mothers for anything you have, they are that good.So does that mean in my 35 years of smokeing and =travelling the world i just never smoked good weed.but you are a seed salesmen who comes on these forums hawking your wears.it is in you poket books best interest to say you got all the latest 9 potencty weed.but that dont make it fact it makes it salesmenship.and like i have said it seems you have made this forum your personal sales site.and most people dont get good weed because of cash croppers not potency of the strain they bye.but if it makes you feel any better i dont like arjans sales teqniques any better then yours.so thats fair.

id much rather believe elite, and even if his strains arent the real deal, they are some bomb ass weed, and for every strain he has way more info and alot more pictures of them. GHS i find one shit picture for each strain that is like 15 feet away. if they are so great why cant they get a good camera and take some real shots, does it take that much effort to push the camera button twice or three times. If they dont wanna do that effort for the consumers then i dont wanna give them buisness. Plus their strains dont look nearly as good as Chimera, Dj short, TGA( sub cool), reeferman. Have you ever watched Jorge Cervantes dvd? check out the seed section, he doesnt mention GHS at all.

 

[SpruceZeus]

rez didnt create chemdawg but your point is dead on..these well respected breeders are not just hating, if we were all just hating then we would hate on EVERY breeder ..GHS simply sells fakes, fake trainwreck, fake cheese, fake og kush, fake chemdawg, fake sour diesel..these people in the UK do not have the real clones..these are the facts..Rez is right about GHS & i can garantee you that anything from GHS wouldnt even get me high..most normal strains dont anymore, i smoke a whole jay of some 5-7 potency weed & if im lucky i feel a tiny buzz for 5 min., i wish people could understand what they are missing out on by not trying cali kush/diesel/chem & many other strains..they are far superior to anything in europe..it has been legal for along time in cali & there hundreds of clubs all over with people that can legally trade clones/legally breed seeds in mass qty etc.

Your arrogance is astounding. The world is a hell of a lot bigger than california, you should probably consider that in the future.
Nothing from GHS will get you high? Gimme a break buddy!!! You're not exactly helping your credibility making statements like that.
I understand, they are the big guys in an industry you're trying to get a foothold in, but how about instead of running a smear campaign you let your product speak for itself.

I had a looksee at your website and on top of being offensive to the eyes, I found your product list to be kind of funny.
TRIPLOID FIRE OG KUSH X THE WHITE X FIRE OG KUSH DOM=$85 FOR 4 SEEDS
.....Seriously? There are just so many things wrong with the way you are doing business. I'll pay 85 dollars for 4 seeds when hell freezes over. Especially when there are so many other seedbank options that are established, cheaper and safer (not being based in the USA)

I was actually considering trying out your genetics, but I'd rather spend my money on the "fake" greenhouse genetics than put a goddamned red cent into your mud slinging hands.

Enjoy being a total dick who runs his business like a republican politician, nothing but lies and boasting.

I hope I never grow weed that turns me into a narcisist when i smoke it.