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shipinit

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would have made more sense to send out the orders and make more money. no?
from reading other sites where people are complaining it looks like they took people for 10's of thousands of dollars. Most people that got ripped are too embarrassed to admit to it....in general anyway. These guys could have easily cleared 100k if statistics hold true to this case as well.
 

mindphuk

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from reading other sites where people are complaining it looks like they took people for 10's of thousands of dollars. Most people that got ripped are too embarrassed to admit to it....in general anyway. These guys could have easily cleared 100k if statistics hold true to this case as well.
I call bullshit. I have been on their forums for quite some time. There's a max of about 5 people that have been waiting for clones after paying. Add a few more that may have not posted in the forum but I think the amount of money they received without shipping is less than $1000.
 

pinspot

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It looks like several people recieved their clones in the first several weeks of operation. I would think that if this was just some kind of scam, they wouldnt have jumped ship so quickly, When they could have made a shit load of cash just by word of mouth by the people that did recieve their goods. I'm guessing they probably met their end in handcuffs. I see alot of people on this thread dead set that it was a scam , but seriously, If you were going to be a scum bag thief wouldnt you go for the safe rather than the change jar?. For all who didn't recieve their product that totally sucks and I feel for you, but you definitly had balls to at least try it.
Scam or bust, unfortunitly we will probably never know.
 

vapedg13

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from reading other sites where people are complaining it looks like they took people for 10's of thousands of dollars. Most people that got ripped are too embarrassed to admit to it....in general anyway. These guys could have easily cleared 100k if statistics hold true to this case as well.
Dude there is no way they made 10s of thousands of dollars...they only conducted business a little over 1 month ...... about 20-30 people ordered from them.....they only shipped out orders of 3 clone at a time or $125.....

Lets say they sold clones to 30 people thats only $3750 they made...they didnt ship to about 5-10 people thats only $1250.... WOW thats enough to retire on...NOT

Most people didnt order beacuse the first 3-4 weeks you had to send a money order out of the country to Holland....people thought that was really sketchy.

I got my clones from CD :mrgreen: here they are today after 4 weeks of veg



 

shipinit

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I call bullshit. I have been on their forums for quite some time. There's a max of about 5 people that have been waiting for clones after paying. Add a few more that may have not posted in the forum but I think the amount of money they received without shipping is less than $1000.
I am not referring to their forum web site....earlier in the thread I linked to a few places where it was being discussed....there are plenty of other sites where it is being discussed as well. Less than a thousand is a joke, I personally know of a "group" of people that lost almost 2k with them and believe me they are not posting and bitching about it.
 

krk

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I am not referring to their forum web site....earlier in the thread I linked to a few places where it was being discussed....there are plenty of other sites where it is being discussed as well. Less than a thousand is a joke, I personally know of a "group" of people that lost almost 2k with them and believe me they are not posting and bitching about it.

owch...2k...I was with Vape on the rip-offs...I also like his math...I'm one that got ripped. if they were going to shut down then they could of just returned the money...as for busted, not in a month it would be tuff to get caught that fast, plus many on multiple forums are covering for the ape who was on the CD forum...I guess he is well known...just not to me or others who want to talk about it. Someone would know if they were busted.:twisted: calling people cry babies who got ripped off, is wrong everyone got there genes somewhere. How many people keep friends who rip others off....not me.

Sure hope the people who did recieve there orders...got the real thing...
 

Delusional

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Sorry to say it but anyone who ordered from this site is a fucking moron.

I saw it, and I did not consider it for even a brief second. It screamed scam.

I mean, seriously..... the site itself looked like it was tossed up using a free host and made in a matter of minutes. Not to mention anyone trying to sell seeds, or clones for that matter.... WITHIN the US is just BEGGING to be shut down. So even if it was a valid attempt at conducting business (albeit a very STUPID attempt) those who purchased were completely idiotic to think they had a decent chance in hell in obtaining their orders. You guys basically deserved every dime you lost. Karma does not protect the stupid.

Sorry if this seems harsh but it's pretty obvious to me that you guys need to practice some better judgment. Be safe, and try being smart.....
 

mindphuk

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I am not referring to their forum web site....earlier in the thread I linked to a few places where it was being discussed....there are plenty of other sites where it is being discussed as well. Less than a thousand is a joke, I personally know of a "group" of people that lost almost 2k with them and believe me they are not posting and bitching about it.
Yea, sure.:roll:
Most of the people that ordered, asked questions on THEIR forums. They were not taking orders for more than the 3 cuttings for $125 so anyone that told you they lost $1000 is a lying bullshitter. No one, including a group would have sent them that much money, they didn't have enough cuttings to offer anyone more than three for the grand opening.

I know there are other threads and places this was discussed, however, most anyone that wanted to discuss their purchase, also posted in the CD forums, since this is how many people were getting updates from Mod and APE. Anyone that paid money, posting in other forums, and not in the CD forum is probably lying.
 

Delusional

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yes, and the same three people have conversations all over those forums. I'm willing to bet they are the same person, if I wanted to scam you into thinking everything was on the up and up that's what I would do.......

simple fact is anyone stupid enough to openly claim they ship such parcels to the US only is on borrowed time, and the people stupid enough to fall for it deserve to lose their money. you dont see legitimate seedbacks advertising the fact they ship to the US if they do..... why? because they like staying in business. oh yeah, and they're not fucking retarded. /facepalm

all they have to do is send cuttings to a few people who will sing their praises in order to obtain the false legitimacy they require to pull off their scam. everyone else is fucked. if you cant see whats going on, by all means, order. and order lots. :)
 

krk

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yes, and the same three people have conversations all over those forums. I'm willing to bet they are the same person, if I wanted to scam you into thinking everything was on the up and up that's what I would do.......

simple fact is anyone stupid enough to openly claim they ship such parcels to the US only is on borrowed time, and the people stupid enough to fall for it deserve to lose their money. you dont see legitimate seedbacks advertising the fact they ship to the US if they do..... why? because they like staying in business. oh yeah, and they're not fucking retarded. /facepalm

all they have to do is send cuttings to a few people who will sing their praises in order to obtain the false legitimacy they require to pull off their scam. everyone else is fucked. if you cant see whats going on, by all means, order. and order lots. :)

Even with there disapearence the debate continues...at least if it was a complete scam..no one got busted...I took my chance a $135 chance...as for the posters...ppl here have alot of posts Like Gray**ull... I dont think he posted all of that just to promote CD....Some know more than there willing to say..

Confessions anyone?
 

mindphuk

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But other things don't add up. If it was a scam, they took their payoff, way too early. I mean, they disappeared for a week, then they were back, then gone again. A scammer wouldn't have tipped it off like that and they had plenty of time to get more money. There were only a handful of people that were waiting more than 2 weeks, and since they tell everyone to expect 2 weeks, they could have waited much longer taking more payments.
Also, some people wanted to order larger amounts and they wouldn't allow it. I was told that only 1 grand opening order could be made in order to have enough cuttings to go around. Why would they limit themselves to only $125 per address if they were trying to rip people off? BTW, I was told this within a week of them vanishing, IOW it isn't something they did early on to bait the hook. Now if APE is involved, that's a problem because some people know his true identity since they too have done business with them. I don't know if he has shown up on any boards since this happened but he could have been a link for LE to follow.
Also, there are more than a few people that can be verified living in other areas of the country that got their shipments. If they were sending real cuttings, they had plenty of time before any of these were flowered, again, if a scam, they closed shop way too early.
 

vapedg13

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yes, and the same three people have conversations all over those forums. I'm willing to bet they are the same person, if I wanted to scam you into thinking everything was on the up and up that's what I would do.......

simple fact is anyone stupid enough to openly claim they ship such parcels to the US only is on borrowed time, and the people stupid enough to fall for it deserve to lose their money. you dont see legitimate seedbacks advertising the fact they ship to the US if they do..... why? because they like staying in business. oh yeah, and they're not fucking retarded. /facepalm

all they have to do is send cuttings to a few people who will sing their praises in order to obtain the false legitimacy they require to pull off their scam. everyone else is fucked. if you cant see whats going on, by all means, order. and order lots. :)
And make what....$ 1000-1500..... get for real......

CD saved me from having to drive to 1600 miles to California to get the Medical strains
 

Delusional

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actually they took it at just the right time If you ask me. I don't think I'd want to prolong a PUBLIC scam involving the shipment of live marijuana clones within the boundaries of the United States....

Use your head, we shouldnt even be having this discussion. Taking a chance on a seedbank is one thing. This...... well... yeah, like I said before.... simply stupid. Anyone who ordered should have been still-born. People that stupid should not be allowed to share the air I breath. lol
 

vapedg13

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actually they took it at just the right time If you ask me. I don't think I'd want to prolong a PUBLIC scam involving the shipment of live marijuana clones within the boundaries of the United States....

Use your head, we shouldnt even be having this discussion. Taking a chance on a seedbank is one thing. This...... well... yeah, like I said before.... simply stupid. Anyone who ordered should have been still-born. People that stupid should not be allowed to share the air I breath. lol

Shipping clones in the mail is nothing new man....they sell clones on Craigslist

There are more people on this website that have been riped off by Seedbanks (who have made threads about it) than got ripped off by CD......Those seed companies are still in business waiting to rip off the next American
 

Delusional

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And make what.... $1500 get for real
If you're stupid enough to think the only people who fell for this are the ones posting, you're dumber than I gave you credit for. I can pretty much guarantee most of the people who have been scammed have not poked their head up to admit it, especially on something like this. Most wont. Lets say for example 100 people, total, order the "special" and get fucked........

1 free host website = $0, an hour, two max.

1 scam idea stupid enough to fool those dumber than the creator = $0

100 Idiots = $12,500

Taking their money by selling something they cannot report without incriminating themselves..... Priceless
 

shipinit

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But other things don't add up. If it was a scam, they took their payoff, way too early. I mean, they disappeared for a week, then they were back, then gone again. A scammer wouldn't have tipped it off like that and they had plenty of time to get more money. There were only a handful of people that were waiting more than 2 weeks, and since they tell everyone to expect 2 weeks, they could have waited much longer taking more payments.
Also, some people wanted to order larger amounts and they wouldn't allow it. I was told that only 1 grand opening order could be made in order to have enough cuttings to go around. Why would they limit themselves to only $125 per address if they were trying to rip people off? BTW, I was told this within a week of them vanishing, IOW it isn't something they did early on to bait the hook. Now if APE is involved, that's a problem because some people know his true identity since they too have done business with them. I don't know if he has shown up on any boards since this happened but he could have been a link for LE to follow.
Also, there are more than a few people that can be verified living in other areas of the country that got their shipments. If they were sending real cuttings, they had plenty of time before any of these were flowered, again, if a scam, they closed shop way too early.
Again, I am not saying it was/is a scam.....I don't know the best way to "milk" people when running a scam. What I do know is there were more than just a thousand or so dollars worth clones that didn't ship. The group of people that I am aware of first hand are part of ASA, I will see if I can convince one of them to register here and chime in. The limiting of the amount you can order is brilliant, with any business (legit or not) you need to give a perception that your product is in demand more than it really is, thus the limit. Actually adds to the "legit" feel if you ask me. All I am saying is there are more people out there that didn't receive anything and have not been posting or complaining...that is all. Typically when any scam is run in the real world less than 10% come forward and admit they got duped.
 

Delusional

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Shipping clones in the mail is nothing new man....they sell clones on Craigslist
and? that makes them smart?

seriously. its like talking to a brick fucking wall. you seriously cant be this stupid..........:shock:

They have hookers on craigslist too. It's still illegal, its still stupid, and they still get caught.
 

shipinit

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If you're stupid enough to think the only people who fell for this are the ones posting, you're dumber than I gave you credit for. I can pretty much guarantee most of the people who have been scammed have not poked their head up to admit it, especially on something like this. Most wont. Lets say for example 100 people, total, order the "special" and get fucked........

1 free host website = $0, an hour, two max.

1 scam idea stupid enough to fool those dumber than the creator = $0

100 Idiots = $12,500

Taking their money by selling something they cannot report without incriminating themselves..... Priceless
+ Rep, you get the concept.
Hell there are still people that have not come forward or admitted they lost money in that Bernie Madoff scandal......and that is legit money lost.
 
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