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White Widow Vs White Widow
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messycan
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The true father of White Widow is Ingemar. He gave the genetics to Green House.
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DaveTheNewbie
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i agree with most of this
i dont get why people always say that shantibaba is Mr nice seeds tho. mr nice of mr nice seeds is howard marks. its his photo on the seeds. shani and neville also are part of the company, and both of them put thier stock into mr nice seeds, but the company is much more than shanti, its a 3 way thing.
woodsmantoker
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Well, every seasoned grower knows that there is the chance that from the very best of plants, strains, and mothers, you can end up with a disappointing out come, however on the other hand you can also by chance end up with what many would call the "Holy Grail" in genetic output. I believe that is exactly what happened to me. I too ordered from multiple seed banks not knowing who would have the better pick.
All ordered were WW. From Nirvana however, I ended up with a single mother out of 5 females from 10 seeds (good ratio) that was something special. What I got, was a typical looking female WW, that grew just slightly faster than the rest, but produced much better quality and quantity. The better part was when the entire grow room was invaded by a killer mold and root mite at the same time, and this female was unfazed. It is obvious that there can be many factors that play into what and why you have what you have however, this plant was cloned and seeded and the off spring still held these genetic traits. I cant say it is far better than any other seed banks WW simply because I have not done the leg work myself but everyone else who has, and also has tried the "holy mother" speaks for me! Its special!
Thanks Nirvana!!!
All ordered were WW. From Nirvana however, I ended up with a single mother out of 5 females from 10 seeds (good ratio) that was something special. What I got, was a typical looking female WW, that grew just slightly faster than the rest, but produced much better quality and quantity. The better part was when the entire grow room was invaded by a killer mold and root mite at the same time, and this female was unfazed. It is obvious that there can be many factors that play into what and why you have what you have however, this plant was cloned and seeded and the off spring still held these genetic traits. I cant say it is far better than any other seed banks WW simply because I have not done the leg work myself but everyone else who has, and also has tried the "holy mother" speaks for me! Its special!
Thanks Nirvana!!!
jordisgarden
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white widow is a kick ass plant. and easy to grow to boot
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That is correct, Shantibaba is the owner/head breeder for Mr. Nice Seeds and Shantibaba was working with Green House Seeds when he created White Widow.
When Shantibaba left Green House Seeds he took his genetic line with him and opened Mr. Nice Seeds and renamed White Widow Black Widow.
If you want to be positive that you get the real deal, the Real McCoy White Widow you need to purchase Mr. Nice Black Widow seeds.
Most ‘White Widow’ is nothing more than a knockoff.
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Mcgician
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How did you come across this knowlege Swami? We peons need enlightenment. Thanks.
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I have done this for roughly 37 years. I am retired and it is as much of a hobby for me as is golf and water-skiing and snow skiing. I research as much as I can and I follow Cup winners and breeders like I follow runningbacks and quarterbacks through college and through their pro careers and like I follow PGA golfers etc.
I will never claim to know everything but because of that I do tend to know more than most people.
Mcgician
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Your knowlege and humbleness are noted. I need no more convincing. I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Thanks for the tip. +rep
dannyking
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Greenhouse's White Widow is not the original. In fact Mr Nice Seed's Black Widow is the origional Cup winning genetics.The topic is basically how the original is pushed by the original company, while others are pushing the same strain themselves.
Say for instance greenhouse's white widow which is the original and the there's nirvana's white widow, which is better quality? There DJ's blueberry and another company that's pushing blueberry. My case is which has the better white widow, greenhouse or.......
Thx
http://www.mrnice.nl/dhtml/strains.php?id=16
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It is a knockoff. I am not saying it is not good, though I do not know because I have not tried it, but it is not the original genetics.
Ingmar claims to be the original breeder but was not the one who won the Cup with it. Some people believe him and many dispute his claim.
The logic goes why would he create such a spectacular strain and not enter it into competition and allow someone else to capitalize on his work and name and only sell seeds of what would naturally be believed to be knockoffs?
It is illogical for someone to not capitalize on their efforts.
Regardless of if his claims are true or not the genetics that won the Cup came from Shantibaba so original or not they are the Cup winning genetics.
Some knockoffs are really pretty good and some are just good but if you want the real deal you need to find Mr. Nice's Black Widow.
bakinville
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brick, you hit the nail on the head..also, for all you haze lovers out there, shantibaba is the haze master, no one knows hazes like him..peace