My first 3 chamber closet grow with Blueberry
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iloveit
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Shit as in it was not good or shit as in "it was the shit"? What is the best tasting & best buzz strain youve ever grown?
HAT TRICK STEVE
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soil temp should never be below 74 deg.
iloveit
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These plants are drinking like theres no tomorrow. I just finished changing the res, thats almost 30 litres in 1 week!
I checked the PPM before the change & its still at 1000PPM, I guess they dont need more or less nutes so Ive kept the new solution at 1000PPM (Ionic bloom) again @ 6.2 PH with Hygrozyme. If the PPM remain at 1000 next week should carry on filling the res with the solution at 1000PPM or increase it?
I checked the PPM before the change & its still at 1000PPM, I guess they dont need more or less nutes so Ive kept the new solution at 1000PPM (Ionic bloom) again @ 6.2 PH with Hygrozyme. If the PPM remain at 1000 next week should carry on filling the res with the solution at 1000PPM or increase it?
9inch bigbud
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shit as in crap did not think it was any good over priced rubbish.
best iv grown?? white widow going back 1997-8 fucking killer plant yeild was out of this world huge monster of a plant i think the clones are still doing the rounds not far from where i live?? it done well outdoors also the bloke in the grow shop i use to go to sorted me out a cutting and he showed some pics of his out side grow in a disused quarry. i was speachless they where the size of fucking oak trees LOL hardy old bastard it was take anything nature could throw at it.
if the plants are using nutes then up them if not keep it the same. when you top up your tank with just ph'ed water to the same level does the EC/PMM go down or up? if it goes down then you can up the nutes a bit if it goes up then cut back.
change the water/nutes often! the plants will thank you for it some ppl say every 10 days i like to change mine every 4 days that way i know every thing the plant needs are being caterd for.
iloveit
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Ive been monitoring the PPM twice daily this past week & the PPM always stay @1000, so I thought Id carry on with PPM @ 1000 even in the new solution (mixed today). Should I keep it at 1000PPM next change?
Im going to change the water/nutes every 7 days (not that I have a choice).
About the PH, Ive not really topped up the tank this time because the plain water is always high in PH. I just wait for plant to take it all in then I mix new solution in new water, if the solution increases in PH the following day then I PH it back down to 6.2 (my tank PH increases never decreases), I keep thinking topped up water will dilute the nutrients.
And another thing, I finally found out the N
:K values of my Hydroponic Ionic nutes (not labelled on the bottles) which are: "Grow-3.07:1.02:4.70 / Bloom-3.07:1.93:5.88 / Boost-0:3.7:5.14." Now I finally know how much is being fed thought Id post it here incase anyone is in the same boat as me. Anyone know in which flowering week im supposed to feed the Boost nute?9inch bigbud
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if its IONC boost use it all the way through bloom/flowering they recomend.Ive been monitoring the PPM twice daily this past week & the PPM always stay @1000, so I thought Id carry on with PPM @ 1000 even in the new solution (mixed today). Should I keep it at 1000PPM next change?
Im going to change the water/nutes every 7 days (not that I have a choice).
About the PH, Ive not really topped up the tank this time because the plain water is always high in PH. I just wait for plant to take it all in then I mix new solution in new water, if the solution increases in PH the following day then I PH it back down to 6.2 (my tank PH increases never decreases), I keep thinking topped up water will dilute the nutrients.
And another thing, I finally found out the N
If the PPM or EC falls then use more feed the next time you fill the tank if it does not rise then do not change keep it at 1000ppm.
iloveit
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Yeah I was planning to add it in the next res change, I was just wondering if it would increase the PPM & if it would affect the plants but we'll see.
9inch bigbud
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you could try uping it to 1.1 -1.2 and watch how the plants do and take readings ph/ ppm if it stays the same keep it at that if it goes up then go back to 1000ppm its better to under feed than over feed thats why i like to top off with plane water as you say " arnt you just diluting the nutes if you add water"? yes, but if you add nutes arent you just incresing the nutes that a plant does not need?? = over feeding? if a plant shows any nute deficiency empty the tank and make a new batch of nutes. The plant will take all what it needs and leave what it does not need/want in the tank if you keep adding to the tank more of what it does not need then you are over feeding it (remember its better to under feed than over feed!) look at it this way a plant will grow better with just a little, than a plant will grow with to much.
even if a plant can take 2000pmm does not mean its going to grow any faster than a if it takes 1500ppm and if it does it will not be by much! what is important is it gets all it needs not how much of it, it gets. under feeding a plant will respond/ mend faster by making up a new nute solution, than if the plant is over feed = you will have to flush for days and then you will not know when to add nutes and how much ect..
= better to under feed than over feed
iloveit
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you could try uping it to 1.1 -1.2 and watch how the plants do and take readings ph/ ppm if it stays the same keep it at that if it goes up then go back to 1000ppm its better to under feed than over feed thats why i like to top off with plane water as you say " arnt you just diluting the nutes if you add water"? yes, but if you add nutes arent you just incresing the nutes that a plant does not need?? = over feeding? if a plant shows any nute deficiency empty the tank and make a new batch of nutes. The plant will take all what it needs and leave what it does not need/want in the tank if you keep adding to the tank more of what it does not need then you are over feeding it (remember its better to under feed than over feed!) look at it this way a plant will grow better with just a little, than a plant will grow with to much.
even if a plant can take 2000pmm does not mean its going to grow any faster than a if it takes 1500ppm and if it does it will not be by much! what is important is it gets all it needs not how much of it, it gets. under feeding a plant will respond/ mend faster by making up a new nute solution, than if the plant is over feed = you will have to flush for days and then you will not know when to add nutes and how much ect..
= better to under feed than over feed
I checked my tank today & found that the PPM read 1100 (keep in mind the new solution was at 1000PPM) so now I know that it was 100PPM over Im going to mix new solution tomorrow.
If the PPM increases next week should I top it up with plain water or mix new solution?
9inch bigbud
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keep it at 1000ppm and top off ph'ed water as its used once you have topped off with the same amount of water as the size of the tank its time to make new batch of feed. i.e if you have a 50L tank once you have added 50L of ph'ed water to the tank after topping off its time to make up new solution.
I belive its good not to give your plants everything it needs all of the time or it will get lazy. if you starve the plant a little bit now and again then when you do feed it, it will suck it all up like a greedy little bitch and you will get a growth spurt, just like if you give a plant to much water it will not grow any faster or may even die, but when you let the pot dry before watering the plant it will slow down in growth a bit, but once you add water watch that mother fucker grow!
9inch bigbud
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dont see any lady boys in there. watch the light it looks like its right on the tad to close, slight light bleaching leaf pointing down trying to get away from the light may be its the flash from the camera i cant tell for sure? it does look like it becaue the sides of the leaf look to be in the center that is where the lights hot spot is move the light up 2-3inches to be on the safe side.
motoracer110
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Very nice looking Grow Love. A+......Just looking at the photos those do not look like male sacks, but I would keep an eye on it just in case. One of my plants swelled up kinda like that at the base and turned out to be nothing. Everything looks very healthy and you will be smoking some great smoke
iloveit
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Thanks for the encouragement mate.Very nice looking Grow Love. A+......Just looking at the photos those do not look like male sacks, but I would keep an eye on it just in case. One of my plants swelled up kinda like that at the base and turned out to be nothing. Everything looks very healthy and you will be smoking some great smoke
iloveit
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The plants are doing good nice n green n thick, theyve been drinking 15L of water within 4 days. Ive been topping up the reservoir with fresh water instead of emptying & refilling the tank like I used to this help decrease the PPM if need be (recommended by "9inchBB" thanks dude), BUT WHEN TOPPING UP WATER IS IT OK TO ADD NUTES IF THE PPM DECREASE TOO MUCH? OR SHOULD NEW SOLUTION ONLY BE MIXED WHEN THE ENTIRE TANK HAS BEEN EMPTIED & REFILLED?
NOW FOR THE WEATHER, OVER TO YOU MICHAEL FISH.
Everything has been fine in the cab apart from the increasing temp which hit 28C the other day OH MA GYAD!
it was down to the weather here in U.K. (England). Our weather is just so strange now I keep an eye out for TEMP,HUMIDITY,WIND SPEED,WIND DIRECTION,WIND GUST,WIND CHILL e.t.c. just to see if there is a pattern or a difference in environment outside & in the cab...but maybe Im getting carried away 
In other news Ive been reading up on increased trichrome production, I came across a thread which stated a 72hr dark period just before the end of harvest can increase your Tri production by as much as 30%. Have any of you growers tried this? If so Id like to here about the results, if you dont know about this method read it here: https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/181750-removing-fan-leaves-2.html (post No. 12, 3rd last paragraph)
NOW FOR THE WEATHER, OVER TO YOU MICHAEL FISH.
Everything has been fine in the cab apart from the increasing temp which hit 28C the other day OH MA GYAD!
it was down to the weather here in U.K. (England). Our weather is just so strange now I keep an eye out for TEMP,HUMIDITY,WIND SPEED,WIND DIRECTION,WIND GUST,WIND CHILL e.t.c. just to see if there is a pattern or a difference in environment outside & in the cab...but maybe Im getting carried away In other news Ive been reading up on increased trichrome production, I came across a thread which stated a 72hr dark period just before the end of harvest can increase your Tri production by as much as 30%
. Have any of you growers tried this? If so Id like to here about the results, if you dont know about this method read it here: https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/181750-removing-fan-leaves-2.html (post No. 12, 3rd last paragraph)
Demosthenese
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i have read a LOT of info online about pot, and i've never heard of the 72 hr period at the end of growing. That being said, i have read about the company that reortedly did it, and i know they are on the level. So im definetly going to try it as well.
Logically, the flowering hormones gather in the plant as they aren't being destroyed by ultraviolet from light. So the reason we go 12/12 to initiate flowering is that that is the minimum time needed in darkness for the hormones to build up to a viable level to initiate flowering. Now, we don't go 11/13 or more darkness then light, because light is still the fuel for growing, so although more darkness would mean more flowering hormones, it wouldn't result in more bud. At the end of the cycle and the flush however, the plant should be in a frenzy of putting all it's stored energy and nutrients into its buds (ie trichs) as it thinks the season ends. I would assume the lack of light would stress the plant, and in that final period of growth that stress would ideally get the plant to pull even more nutrients out of its useless fan leaves and sent to the buds. Now, they claimed up to 30% increase in thc. Thc is usually at 8-13% in the first place in goooood weed, so at most u'll get a 2-4% increase in thc by volume of weed. It all sort of makes sense to me, so i don't have trouble beleiving it. The only part that im not sure of is the idea that stress during budding causes increased budding. We do so many things to minimize plant stress during flowering to get the best buds possible that it seems anti intuitive to stress them at the very end. On the other hand we flush at the end, stressing the plant into abbandoning its fan leaves to increase the buds. As long as the response of the plant isn't to try and grow more fan leaves in the search for light, which it shouldn't since its flowering hormones would still be full, then this can't hurt i dont think.
I will be experimenting, i look forwards to hear your results and thoughts. Your plants look great too, grats.
Logically, the flowering hormones gather in the plant as they aren't being destroyed by ultraviolet from light. So the reason we go 12/12 to initiate flowering is that that is the minimum time needed in darkness for the hormones to build up to a viable level to initiate flowering. Now, we don't go 11/13 or more darkness then light, because light is still the fuel for growing, so although more darkness would mean more flowering hormones, it wouldn't result in more bud. At the end of the cycle and the flush however, the plant should be in a frenzy of putting all it's stored energy and nutrients into its buds (ie trichs) as it thinks the season ends. I would assume the lack of light would stress the plant, and in that final period of growth that stress would ideally get the plant to pull even more nutrients out of its useless fan leaves and sent to the buds. Now, they claimed up to 30% increase in thc. Thc is usually at 8-13% in the first place in goooood weed, so at most u'll get a 2-4% increase in thc by volume of weed. It all sort of makes sense to me, so i don't have trouble beleiving it. The only part that im not sure of is the idea that stress during budding causes increased budding. We do so many things to minimize plant stress during flowering to get the best buds possible that it seems anti intuitive to stress them at the very end. On the other hand we flush at the end, stressing the plant into abbandoning its fan leaves to increase the buds. As long as the response of the plant isn't to try and grow more fan leaves in the search for light, which it shouldn't since its flowering hormones would still be full, then this can't hurt i dont think.
I will be experimenting, i look forwards to hear your results and thoughts. Your plants look great too, grats.
iloveit
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Those are very intresting points youve made, I may try it in my next grow but this is my first where Ive not experimented at all not only because of lack of knowledge or experience but because I thought what would I compare the final harvest with when I do begin experimenting if you know what I mean.
Thanks for your opinion youve put some things in perspective for me.