Do you believe in God?

[Tryingtomastrkush]

First off i didnt ask any of you to read my posts, you chose to do so.

Second, ive been (obviously) trying to explain religion to a group athiests wall: ) who are so wrapped up in why "religion is so bad for everyone" when in fact Religion its self (not the church) is a tool for man to use to create (or try to) a civilization that trys to unite over a "common good".


I now understand why no one fights with Athiests about their beliefs, Ignorance is truely bliss on their part.


Cya bigots, have your athiest conversation without my rebuddle.

The religious zealot calling people bigots...........
thats always amusing

I have attended churches and temples and studied religion for years. So I have tried the other way and it didn't work.

Have you ever once stopped to think you didn't know everything?
have you ever considered you were wrong?
Have you ever thought maybe religion IS bad for society?

No you probably haven't because OBVIOUSLY you have all the answers to everything

Get real you wanna-be cult leader

 

[suedonimn]

"Only the IDIOT, says in his heart, there is no God." - God

It is funny how the last 300 years, archeology has PROVED much of the bible to be true. No, I will not sight any references, they are out there if you really want the truth. You might even find something on youtube, which seems to be where most atheist information comes from. Don't try to get me caught up in religious shit either, I wasn't there, you figure out why people kill themselves for stupid reasons. The only thing you have to cling to is your belief in denial.

 

[Tryingtomastrkush]

And clinging to a being that isn't real to help guide you through life is a good idea?

Why not try believing in something that can actually benefit you in this one and only guaranteed life?
What is the point in worshipping something that has brought nothing but death, destruction, and lies to this world?

You forget one simple thing about god.......He never said shit so you can't quote him

Who quotes god in an argument anyway? thats just lame

 

[puffpuffPASSEDOUT]

The religious zealot calling people bigots...........
thats always amusing

I have attended churches and temples and studied religion for years. So I have tried the other way and it didn't work.

Have you ever once stopped to think you didn't know everything?
have you ever considered you were wrong?
Have you ever thought maybe religion IS bad for society?

No you probably haven't because OBVIOUSLY you have all the answers to everything

Get real you wanna-be cult leader

Seriously dude your not a bigot? Do you not know everything? because your trying to teach me something so obviously you must.

So now i ask you...


Have you ever once stopped to think you didn't know everything?
have you ever considered you were wrong?
Have you ever thought maybe being an Athiest IS bad for society?


Your calling 7000 years worth of learning (religion is 7000+ years old), 4000 years of properous nations/federations, 2000 years of the BEST religion in society... Your saying it was all worth nothing? that these people were morons?


Do you know what will happen if religion disapears? ...DEATH... MURDER...RAPE... ALL of the ten commandments go out the window and people begin to live for themselves instead for the common good of man/CIVILization. its all going to come crumbling down OR the government is going to control everything.

 

[Tryingtomastrkush]

LOL ok dude im putting you on ignore.
Im so tired of you ignoring every argument and coming back with THE SAME SHITYOU HAVE BEEN SAYING FROM THE START


eat shit

 

[CrackerJax]

It's okay sometimes to just simply say I DON'T KNOW. To me that is the crux of atheism. Instead of filling in the blanks with pre science worldviews, I like to be hopeful that while the answers are not within out grasp in my lifetime that someday the answers will be forthcoming. The biggest impediment to science has always been religion, because they do not like the answers which are being slowly revealed. If the church were more successful they would still have us believing that the sun rotates around the Earth. Man is slowly moving past the superstitions and for the myth followers, I can understand how this may be unnerving. You have my sympathy. Again, I would have no problem with either christianity or Islam, except that they are cult based. Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism are more in line with tolerant religions. They don't give a whit if I believe their stories or not. That makes much more sense to me and the damage caused by them to our societies has been minimal. Look to the carnage of history and you will almost always find the CULT religions.

out.

 

[puffpuffPASSEDOUT]

and clinging to a being that isn't real to help guide you through life is a good idea?

Why not try believing in something that can actually benefit you in this one and only guaranteed life?
What is the point in worshipping something that has brought nothing but death, destruction, and lies to this world?

You forget one simple thing about god.......he never said shit so you can't quote him

who quotes god in an argument anyway? Thats just lame

what do you not understand?? The bible is a metaphor!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can i put it in any simplier terms? Lol

 

[puffpuffPASSEDOUT]

It's okay sometimes to just simply say I DON'T KNOW. To me that is the crux of atheism. Instead of filling in the blanks with pre science worldviews, I like to be hopeful that while the answers are not within out grasp in my lifetime that someday the answers will be forthcoming. The biggest impediment to science has always been religion, because they do not like the answers which are being slowly revealed. If the church were more successful they would still have us believing that the sun rotates around the Earth. Man is slowly moving past the superstitions and for the myth followers, I can understand how this may be unnerving. You have my sympathy. Again, I would have no problem with either christianity or Islam, except that they are cult based. Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism are more in line with tolerant religions. They don't give a whit if I believe their stories or not. That makes much more sense to me and the damage caused by them to our societies has been minimal. Look to the carnage of history and you will almost always find the CULT religions.

out.

again an athiest proves that the only thing they beleive in is nothing. Athiest choose not to believe what they do not understand, which i can understand, but its the fact that you refuse to learn about religion and the purpose that baffles me.

I just do not see the point in leading a life of no purpose, with no guidance

 

[CrackerJax]

Guidance comes form society. A society based on cult superstitions does no one any good except the believers.

Again, atheists are willing to admit that they don't know something when evidence is in short supply. Just because you don't have the ABC's of something doesn't mean sticking in X,Y, and Z will do.
Again if Christianity wasn't a cult religion, i would have no problem with it.

out.

 

[puffpuffPASSEDOUT]

Guidance comes form society. A society based on cult superstitions does no one any good except the believers.

Again, atheists are willing to admit that they don't know something when evidence is in short supply. Just because you don't have the ABC's of something doesn't mean sticking in X,Y, and Z will do.
Again if Christianity wasn't a cult religion, i would have no problem with it.

out.

So basically you do whatever everyone else is doing? haha and you call me close minded


"A society based on cult superstitions does no one any good except the believers. "

EXACTLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, So why not believe? ... Oh thats right you dont understand

 

[CrackerJax]

You have that exactly backwards. It is you who are the follower, not I.

I am just not superstitious.

out.

 

[Tryingtomastrkush]

You have that exactly backwards. It is you who are the follower, not I.

I am just not superstitious.

out.

You know its a frivolous argument right?
Dude so jacked up on his own bullshit he is completely blind to what is going on in the real world.
Its like he's on godroids.

He, of course, takes the side of "you just can't understand"
well my question to you is what makes you so much better than other people that you can understand?

Are you some sort of religious prophet?
or just another ignorant zealot?
If the bible is a metaphor why don't you feel the same way about the Illiad and the odyssey? (you know those other books with ridiculous MYTHS)
Can those not be construed as metaphor's in the same sense as the bible?

what about the koran?
Atleast Islam was based on a REAL guy

 

[CrackerJax]

Yah, I know it. But I will give him a courtesy of my response. My mom taught be to be polite.

out.

 

[RetiredToker76]

Here's what I don't understand ....

Why does anyone else care? Maybe being an isolationist and a hermit has made me jaded but I don't really care if anyone else is a religious nut bar or if they are agnostic or atheist.

I for one am agnostic, for those who don't know the difference an Atheist says 'There is no God' an agnostic says, 'I have been given no tangible evidence to support the existence of God therefore I have not made a decision yet.'

The bottom line is I have tattoos and piercings, I smoke weed, and my wife and I are swingers. The interesting thing is if you don't have tattoos or piercings, if you don't smoke weed, and if you live a monogamous lifestyle, I don't care. It isn't my life.

I don't understand why Religious people have to push their wares on everyone around them. I don't understand why supposedly religious monogamists have to go to extreme measures to shut down swingers clubs, I don't understand why non-pot smokers feel a need to demonize weed which they admittedly have no first hand knowledge of, and I don't understand why people with no tattoos or piercings feel it necessary to see my ink and say things like, "That's disgusting you should cover it up." FYI it's a tattoo of my CELLO, nothing offensive at all.

Why can't people simply let other people be. I won't hold an orgy in your church if you'll get your religious out of my swing club. I really don't get people, that's probably why I stay in doors most the time and shy away from social contact as much as possible.

-RT76

 

[CrackerJax]

Hey RT (waves)

it's because both islam and christianity are cult religions. They feel everyone in the end MUST feel the way they do. I consider Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism to be fairly innocuous religions. When's the last time a Hindu has tried to convert you?

The world would be a lot better off if Christinanity and islam fell into disrepair.

out.

 

[GregD88]

Seriously dude your not a bigot? Do you not know everything? because your trying to teach me something so obviously you must.

So now i ask you...


Have you ever once stopped to think you didn't know everything?
have you ever considered you were wrong?
Have you ever thought maybe being an Athiest IS bad for society?


Your calling 7000 years worth of learning (religion is 7000+ years old), 4000 years of properous nations/federations, 2000 years of the BEST religion in society... Your saying it was all worth nothing? that these people were morons?


Do you know what will happen if religion disapears? ...DEATH... MURDER...RAPE... ALL of the ten commandments go out the window and people begin to live for themselves instead for the common good of man/CIVILization. its all going to come crumbling down OR the government is going to control everything.

You know in the bible it says the earth is only 6,000 years old right? you're a fucking retard. It's been scientifically proven that the earth is around 4.5-4.6 billion years old anyway.

Kings used religion thousands of years ago to control the minds of their people and to scare them into not committing any crimes. Religion was forced on them, they didn't have any choice.

You're saying if religion disappears people will rape, pillage and murder people but that's what religious people have done the past 6.8 thousand fucking years. I'm an atheist and the only law I've ever broken is smoking pot. I was a christian for more than half my life so you can't say I'm ignorant to it. Have you ever even thought maybe there is no god? No.

You're a fucking bigot. I'm surprised you haven't even been banned yet, all you ever post is fucking ignorant bullshit.

 

[joepro]

The way our brains are wired, it's almost more easier to comprehend a myth.
Nothing turned into everything vs. god's creation.

Hey, RT76 do you believe in love? Have you never seen it? herd it?
...but I bet you felt it and can't explain how or why.
I can't prove if 'love' exists to anyone who hasn't felt it first hand.

Do I believe? I believe in nothing and everything at the same time.
no I haven't felt god or jesus personaly, so I find it very unlikely.

 

[CrackerJax]

I agree with you Joe...myth is hard wired into us from long ago. It takes a mighty will to break free form it.

out.

 

[suedonimn]

And clinging to a being that isn't real to help guide you through life is a good idea?

Why not try believing in something that can actually benefit you in this one and only guaranteed life?
What is the point in worshipping something that has brought nothing but death, destruction, and lies to this world?

You forget one simple thing about god.......He never said shit so you can't quote him

Who quotes god in an argument anyway? thats just lame

To know Christ is to have Christ revealed to you personally. I know God exists, because I believe Christ who is Jesus. I did not grow up with any church doctrine, I do not now go to a building for worship service. I became christian on an Astral walk in 1992, after Christ revealed Himself to me. You forget the simple thing about God... if you don't give Him at least the benefit of doubt, how can you be prepared to hear, see in order to believe? I am free, I can quote who ever I want in an argument, you limit yourself to mere people. The same argument you use to tell me everything I know is a sham, your the lame one.

 

[GregD88]

To know Christ is to have Christ revealed to you personally. I know God exists, because I believe Christ who is Jesus. I did not grow up with any church doctrine, I do not now go to a building for worship service. I became christian on an Astral walk in 1992, after Christ revealed Himself to me. You forget the simple thing about God... if you don't give Him at least the benefit of doubt, how can you be prepared to hear, see in order to believe? I am free, I can quote who ever I want in an argument, you limit yourself to mere people. The same argument you use to tell me everything I know is a sham, your the lame one.

You can't fucking quote something that hasn't and can never be proven to exist, you just made that quote up off the top of your head