Do you believe in God?

Do you believe there is a God?

  • YES, I believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 92 46.2%
  • NO, I do not believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 107 53.8%

  • Total voters
    199
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GlassFreak

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well i rest my case. You "believe" in nothing but yourself, so how does that make you any different than the wealthy? Do you think they believe in god? Haha hell no because to believe in a religion is to believe in your people, to believe in the hearts of those that follow the same path of hope, hope of something better, not hope that i will get rich one day.

Wealth is nothing. Money is nothing. Our minds are the key to everything we need, but when it comes to society and civilization, what is there to hold it together? Religion.
so everyone kill everyone different from you!
 

GlassFreak

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WRONG!

Guns dont kill people, People kill people.
and religion didnt just pop out of thin air... people thought it up, and used it to deciev others, so that they could have money without doing anything at all, how hard is it to say, yea ill pray for you every night, if you give me money...
 

GlassFreak

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religion is the ultimate get rich quick sceam, find a group off poor sencless needy people, tell them god will take care of everything, and you will tell him they need the help, as long as they make you theyre king and build them a huge house, a house of "god", and pay him to keep god in the area, watching over them, keeping them safe, making sure they survive.

you can go from a poor begging story teller to king of a people with a good book and some convincing. as long as the people are stupid and need guidance of any kind.
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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bill gates was born into a middle class family, he is now the 3rd richest person in the world. saying that only the rich come from rich families is just stupid.

and i think the fact that you think that you have to believe in god to make progress in self worth in ones family and country, the world as a whole has a dim future. do you not realize that we arent just a bunch of land masses in a neverending sea anymore? that everyone isnt as far away as they used to be... if all we can ever depend on are our country and our families alone, the world will never truely be one.

if anything religion tears people apart, i know it tore members of my family away from me. if you are raised in an extreamly strict catholic house, and come out and say you dont believe in god, they might treat you like you just came out and said you were gay. religion is one of the few things in the world that can tear a mother from her son and turn a brother against his brother, and son against his father. religion is the devil.

Well coming from a religious back ground you should understand the purpose of unity...Or do you?

understand people that the message im trying to get accross is not that you should believe in the heavens and whatever a pastor tells you, but you should understand the need to unite over the common wealth of man.

Nowadays we are so selfish, so self absorbed that we do not realize how the world is crumbling around us.

on Sept 11, 2001 the united states was attacked on it mainland in a mojor way and many people died. This has put fear in MANY MANY hearts that America isnt as safe as they thought it was. When in fact I was and Can still be if we do something about it!

It all starts with you...But you still have to have faith in the people around you. We can not have Athiest people (like bill maher) preaching to people about how better life will be without religion. because this is EXACTLY what the government wants. Hell its been going on for 8 years. Our freedoms have been constantly taken advantage of for the governments advantage to control its citzens.

The day of reckoning has passed, and still MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of people do nothing about it. they just let it happen and go with the flow.

We are nothing but a lazy nation anymore. Wake up people!
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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and religion didnt just pop out of thin air... people thought it up, and used it to deciev others, so that they could have money without doing anything at all, how hard is it to say, yea ill pray for you every night, if you give me money...
FORGET ABOUT THE CHURCH... FORGET ABOUT THE PHYSICAL BEING OF GOD... THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THE FAITH!


you cant let yourself get caught up in all the Hopla in the church. Hell ive never been to church and i have more faith then most who do go to church.

Ive learned things the hard way, I have a clue about whats good for society and this beautiful country... try to learn from my mistakes, unless you want to take the same path. :joint:
 

mastakoosh

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56 pages of rehashed rhetoric. free thinkers huh.....so why all the links to bill maher and others that think for you. i think man would find a way to kill man without any other reasons at all including religion. all i know is believers are hypocrites and condescending to any other ways of thinking....hmm...looks familiar, now about glass houses. i have seen a lot of bashing and judging on what people believe. isnt this what is hated of organized religion??? i cant prove there is a god and you theology experts on a stoner plant growing site cant prove there is not a god. another round of idea bashing and intimidation on aisle 5 please.
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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are you saying what happened on 911 was due to lack of religion? just making sure befor i say anything...
No im talking about the aftermath of 9/11. ITS EXACTLY WHAT THE TERRORISTS WANT! THEY WANT TO BREAK THE SPIRITS OF EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY.... ANd guess what THEY ARE SUCCEEDING!!
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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56 pages of rehashed rhetoric. free thinkers huh.....so why all the links to bill maher and others that think for you. i think man would find a way to kill man without any other reasons at all including religion. all i know is believers are hypocrites and condescending to any other ways of thinking....hmm...looks familiar, now about glass houses. i have seen a lot of bashing and judging on what people believe. isnt this what is hated of organized religion??? i cant prove there is a god and you theology experts on a stoner plant growing site cant prove there is not a god. another round of idea bashing and intimidation on aisle 5 please.

56 pages of Athiests bashing those of us who have faith in SOMETHING.

I honestly dont know any pot smoking athiests, and to be honest ill never befreind one from here on out. Nothing but a bunch of bigots.

Get a life Athiests!
 

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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I really must thank you all for this debate. It has taught me SOOOO much about the Athiest POV that honestly i have NOOOOO respect for any of you anymore.

YOU! are whats wrong with this country... YOU! are the reason we will never accomplish anything of any good in this country.


Peace out douche bags.
 

Tryingtomastrkush

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56 pages of Athiests bashing those of us who have faith in SOMETHING.

I honestly dont know any pot smoking athiests, and to be honest ill never befreind one from here on out. Nothing but a bunch of bigots.

Get a life Athiests!
Its funny how the religious zealot is calling other people bigots......
thats like a pot calling the kettle black....
Preach and preach all you want about how you know how to fix everything on the planet.
In REALITY though someone needs to fix you.
The day will come when you decide to open that big mouth in front of someone you shouldn't
 

GlassFreak

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mmmmmmk.... so you are also one of those people that believe the "terrorists" are the ones responsable for that? that a bunch of guys in caves infilrtated our airways on exactly the day they are running tests that hadnt been run in years. pulling off insanely acurate and difficult manuvers in giant planes with no prior experience driving anything larger than a crop duster... i dont want to start this whole 911 thing, thats a whole other 500+ post thread in the making. i just think its very funny that somone with so much faith and so much want for everyone to hold everyones world together would believe such things, but i have never found someone that believes in one and not the other... you are an example of how our own government has tricked it own citizens! youve had over 8 years to put this shit together, i was sitting in the library of a catholic school being told by a child molester to pray for the people that have been taken by these "messengers of satan".

i know that your values are good and you want what is best for everyone, but you need to look past your town, your family and your country, look at the fucking world man. god died a long time ago, the messages have not, they are just changing into something that people will believe because they can see it, everything athiests say they dont believe in, they do, they just believe in it in a different way...

the values that you speak of as holy, can be taught to any 5 year old watching a disney movie... grow up.
 

CrackerJax

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56 pages of Athiests bashing those of us who have faith in SOMETHING.

I honestly dont know any pot smoking athiests, and to be honest ill never befreind one from here on out. Nothing but a bunch of bigots.

Get a life Athiests!

Don't worry Puff... I won't burn you at the stake... :lol:


out. :blsmoke:
 

GlassFreak

Well-Known Member
I really must thank you all for this debate. It has taught me SOOOO much about the Athiest POV that honestly i have NOOOOO respect for any of you anymore.

YOU! are whats wrong with this country... YOU! are the reason we will never accomplish anything of any good in this country.


Peace out douche bags.
like thats the fist time thats ever been said by a believer to an athiest person, yay for puffpuff, maybe you can start an athiest hating cult!
 

GlassFreak

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Don't worry Puff... I won't burn you at the stake... :lol:


out. :blsmoke:
WAIT! im getting a transmition here....... yep, god just told be that puffpuff is a witch... a good for nothing! spell casting! trouble causing! DEMON! CHAIN HIS ASS UP AND THROW HIM IN THE WATER! IF HE FLOATS HES A WITCH AND WE BURN HIS ASS! IF HE SINKS AND DROWNDS, WELL THEN HES OK...
 

Tryingtomastrkush

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mmmmmmk.... so you are also one of those people that believe the "terrorists" are the ones responsable for that? that a bunch of guys in caves infilrtated our airways on exactly the day they are running tests that hadnt been run in years. pulling off insanely acurate and difficult manuvers in giant planes with no prior experience driving anything larger than a crop duster... i dont want to start this whole 911 thing, thats a whole other 500+ post thread in the making. i just think its very funny that somone with so much faith and so much want for everyone to hold everyones world together would believe such things, but i have never found someone that believes in one and not the other... you are an example of how our own government has tricked it own citizens! youve had over 8 years to put this shit together, i was sitting in the library of a catholic school being told by a child molester to pray for the people that have been taken by these "messengers of satan".

i know that your values are good and you want what is best for everyone, but you need to look past your town, your family and your country, look at the fucking world man. god died a long time ago, the messages have not, they are just changing into something that people will believe because they can see it, everything athiests say they dont believe in, they do, they just believe in it in a different way...

the values that you speak of as holy, can be taught to any 5 year old watching a disney movie... grow up.
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Im glad im not the only one who thinks this guys a damned idiot.

puffpuffPASSEDOUT, have you ever stopped to think that maybe everyone seems to argue with you because you are a bigot with distorted view of the world?
Whenever someone proves you wrong you come back with this bullshit "You just don't understand, you aren't smart like I am, blah blah blah"

SHUT THE FUCK UP PUFFPUFFPASSEDOUT
 

GlassFreak

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have you ever read/seen "the crucible"?

great (TRUE) example of how, religion, in the wrong hands, can bring an entire thriving comunity to mass murder and an overall crumbling of society. so what you say about religion being necisary for the advancement of humanity is bull shit, it has shown time and time again that it is keeping the human race in check, making sure we dont get too smart for our own good. too smart to know the truth.

i say society needs compation, too many people get beat, killed, raped, tourtured even, just because they come from another part of the world, imagine if everyone wore theyre religion on thyer heads... i wonder what would happen... ooooooo yea.... oops...
 
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