Mango Haze
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i know we havent seen the republican debate yet but im voting for edwards (democrat) what are your opinion's about the debate?
Did anyone watch the debate ?
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medicineman
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Edwards is on my list, but any Democrat is better than a repuke except Ron Paul, might consider him if it was him and Hillary running in the general. Hillary is way down on my list, she's a more of the same candidate, like the repukes. The only upside of Hillary is Bill.
420worshipper
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Now wouldn't it be funny to see a former president made the first lady. Err, I mean first man(?).
medicineman
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Laugh all you want, could happen, and that would be the best part of a Hillary presidency. Bill is respected world wide, maybe he could smooth all the shit Dubya has stirred up. I'm pretty sure Bill would play an active part in the Hillary presidency.
Mango Haze
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well i think that edwards is sincere about changing the country for the better. i think when bush was elected it was a backwards step and im sick of seeing a money-hungry and power-hungry crook run our country. i dont want obama or hillary to win, but obama will get alot of votes because blacks want to see a black president and women will vote for hillary. maybe not all of them, but thats no reason to win... just because your differnt. obama isnt ready to lead this country... hes inexsperienced and i think we need 2 get our troops home and stop the bush administration from taking iraq's oil and re-selling it back to us with high ass prices.
ViRedd
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What do you want to bet that Bill hasn't been "upside" of Hillary since Monica?
Vi
suicidesamurai
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Edwards is a scumbag, as shown by his actions as a lawyer.
Mango Haze
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edwards was a lawyer ? can u give me a brief summary of what he did that would make him a scumbag because im very interested
thanks man
thanks man
ViRedd
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Problems With John Edwards Posted by: CULTURESHOCKTV.COM
Thu Jul 22 12:35:49 2004
Thu Jul 22 12:35:49 2004
[FONT=Times, Times New Roman, serif]By Phyllis Schlafly
Edwards' nomination for vice president 'will get their adrenaline pumping and it will open up their checkbooks to a degree never seen before,' observed political science professor Larry Sabato. A glance at the lawyers' reaction to the choice of Edwards confirms this view. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times, Times New Roman, serif]A presidential nominee's choice of a running mate is supposed to balance the ticket. John Edwards doesn't balance John Kerry's ticket ideologically, since they have the same ultra-liberal voting record. Or geographically, since Edwards can't even carry his own state, and that's why he chose not to run for reelection to the Senate.
Edwards' balance for the Democratic ticket is to provide the fundamental quality that Kerry lacks. Edwards is said to be a compelling speaker who knows how to sway emotions, while Kerry just isn't likeable.
The last time the Democrats picked a nominee because of his extraordinary speaking ability was William Jennings Bryan in 1896. The tactic didn't succeed then, and it won't succeed this year after the voters look at the history of Edwards' histrionics.
Edwards honed his oratorical skills by manipulating juries with a combination of junk science and demagoguery to believe that obstetricians are to blame for causing cerebral palsy by not performing a Caesarean section immediately after a fetal heartbeat monitor indicates a warning. After his first spectacular $6.5 million verdict using this theory, he filed at least 20 similar lawsuits and won verdicts and settlements of more than $60 million, typically keeping about a third of the winnings.
The result of Edwards' lawsuits against obstetricians is that fears of career ruination from malpractice litigation have raised the rate of Caesarean sections in the United States to 26 percent from only 6 percent in 1970. However, this change has not caused any decrease in the rate of cerebral palsy.
The ongoing medical debate includes concern about needless Caesarean deliveries which carry the risks of major surgery, and studies which have found that the electronic fetal monitors used during delivery often give false signals. Most studies indicate that cerebral palsy is caused by fetal brain injury long before labor begins.
The current large numbers of Caesareans are costly, harmful and inappropriate in the big majority of cases. Because of hucksters like Edwards, doctors now practice more out of fear of litigation than doing what is best for the patients.
The malpractice insurance crisis has driven doctors out of many regions of the country, leaving patients without care. Frivolous and exaggerated lawsuits have made insurance unaffordable for doctors in many key specialties such as obstetrics and neurosurgery.
The obstetrician who delivered my six children in the 1950s and '60s was never sued during a lifetime of delivering babies. Now, an obstetrician neighbor, one of the last obstetricians in private practice in the county, is closing her practice and moving away because her malpractice insurance premium has soared to $300,000 a year.
John Kerry is hoping that Edwards will be as successful with American voters as he has been in handpicking juries susceptible to his rhetoric. But Edwards can't pick his jury this November, and taxpayers are the opposite of jurors who are willing to make large awards at someone else's expense.
American voters know that lawsuits will not protect our country from terrorists or create a single job for our economy. How will Edwards react to a deadly attack by terrorists — sue them?
Thirty years ago, California placed a reasonable limit of $250,000 on "pain and suffering" and other dubious "non-economic" damages (of course, not limiting economic damages). As a result, there is no malpractice crisis in California and doctors are not leaving the state.
Americans have probably never had a national candidate whose large personal and political money is identified with one particular economic group: trial lawyers who file dubious lawsuits claiming wildly exaggerated damages. Edwards' presidential campaign raked in $9.3 million from lawyers.
Edwards' nomination for vice president "will get their adrenaline pumping and it will open up their checkbooks to a degree never seen before," observed political science professor Larry Sabato. A glance at the lawyers' reaction to the choice of Edwards confirms this view.
The trial lawyers plow their lawsuit winnings back into politics to prevent anyone from interfering with their game. Nearly three out of every four dollars that attorneys contribute to political campaigns are to Democrats.
The Association of Trial Lawyers of America (ATLA) was holding its annual convention in Boston when the news of Edwards' pick arrived. The ATLA attorneys broke into "a whole lot of cheering and foot stomping," explained New York State Trial Lawyers Association president Shoshana Bookson; "the mood was excitement beyond description."
ATLA is the national group that defends the shocking $2.9 million judgment against McDonald's for making hot coffee that a customer spilled on herself while riding in a car. The ATLA website defends that award (later reduced) by saying that it "equals about two days of McDonald's coffee sales," as though that justifies redistributing wealth.
It is no surprise that Edwards has voted against every bill in Congress proposing limits on non-economic damages. If elected, he'll be glad to follow the Democrats' usual policy of redistributing tax money to their favored groups.
SCHLAFLY COLUMNS [/FONT]
Edwards' nomination for vice president 'will get their adrenaline pumping and it will open up their checkbooks to a degree never seen before,' observed political science professor Larry Sabato. A glance at the lawyers' reaction to the choice of Edwards confirms this view. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times, Times New Roman, serif]A presidential nominee's choice of a running mate is supposed to balance the ticket. John Edwards doesn't balance John Kerry's ticket ideologically, since they have the same ultra-liberal voting record. Or geographically, since Edwards can't even carry his own state, and that's why he chose not to run for reelection to the Senate.
Edwards' balance for the Democratic ticket is to provide the fundamental quality that Kerry lacks. Edwards is said to be a compelling speaker who knows how to sway emotions, while Kerry just isn't likeable.
The last time the Democrats picked a nominee because of his extraordinary speaking ability was William Jennings Bryan in 1896. The tactic didn't succeed then, and it won't succeed this year after the voters look at the history of Edwards' histrionics.
Edwards honed his oratorical skills by manipulating juries with a combination of junk science and demagoguery to believe that obstetricians are to blame for causing cerebral palsy by not performing a Caesarean section immediately after a fetal heartbeat monitor indicates a warning. After his first spectacular $6.5 million verdict using this theory, he filed at least 20 similar lawsuits and won verdicts and settlements of more than $60 million, typically keeping about a third of the winnings.
The result of Edwards' lawsuits against obstetricians is that fears of career ruination from malpractice litigation have raised the rate of Caesarean sections in the United States to 26 percent from only 6 percent in 1970. However, this change has not caused any decrease in the rate of cerebral palsy.
The ongoing medical debate includes concern about needless Caesarean deliveries which carry the risks of major surgery, and studies which have found that the electronic fetal monitors used during delivery often give false signals. Most studies indicate that cerebral palsy is caused by fetal brain injury long before labor begins.
The current large numbers of Caesareans are costly, harmful and inappropriate in the big majority of cases. Because of hucksters like Edwards, doctors now practice more out of fear of litigation than doing what is best for the patients.
The malpractice insurance crisis has driven doctors out of many regions of the country, leaving patients without care. Frivolous and exaggerated lawsuits have made insurance unaffordable for doctors in many key specialties such as obstetrics and neurosurgery.
The obstetrician who delivered my six children in the 1950s and '60s was never sued during a lifetime of delivering babies. Now, an obstetrician neighbor, one of the last obstetricians in private practice in the county, is closing her practice and moving away because her malpractice insurance premium has soared to $300,000 a year.
John Kerry is hoping that Edwards will be as successful with American voters as he has been in handpicking juries susceptible to his rhetoric. But Edwards can't pick his jury this November, and taxpayers are the opposite of jurors who are willing to make large awards at someone else's expense.
American voters know that lawsuits will not protect our country from terrorists or create a single job for our economy. How will Edwards react to a deadly attack by terrorists — sue them?
Thirty years ago, California placed a reasonable limit of $250,000 on "pain and suffering" and other dubious "non-economic" damages (of course, not limiting economic damages). As a result, there is no malpractice crisis in California and doctors are not leaving the state.
Americans have probably never had a national candidate whose large personal and political money is identified with one particular economic group: trial lawyers who file dubious lawsuits claiming wildly exaggerated damages. Edwards' presidential campaign raked in $9.3 million from lawyers.
Edwards' nomination for vice president "will get their adrenaline pumping and it will open up their checkbooks to a degree never seen before," observed political science professor Larry Sabato. A glance at the lawyers' reaction to the choice of Edwards confirms this view.
The trial lawyers plow their lawsuit winnings back into politics to prevent anyone from interfering with their game. Nearly three out of every four dollars that attorneys contribute to political campaigns are to Democrats.
The Association of Trial Lawyers of America (ATLA) was holding its annual convention in Boston when the news of Edwards' pick arrived. The ATLA attorneys broke into "a whole lot of cheering and foot stomping," explained New York State Trial Lawyers Association president Shoshana Bookson; "the mood was excitement beyond description."
ATLA is the national group that defends the shocking $2.9 million judgment against McDonald's for making hot coffee that a customer spilled on herself while riding in a car. The ATLA website defends that award (later reduced) by saying that it "equals about two days of McDonald's coffee sales," as though that justifies redistributing wealth.
It is no surprise that Edwards has voted against every bill in Congress proposing limits on non-economic damages. If elected, he'll be glad to follow the Democrats' usual policy of redistributing tax money to their favored groups.
SCHLAFLY COLUMNS [/FONT]
stickyhits
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no matter who wins were screwed
Mango Haze
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I had no idea about edwards... but your right i think we're fucked. they wont resolve any of the many problems such as global warming, tax inflation, and iraq, etc.
Mango Haze
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...and then what, bush just gets away for his war crimes and his involment in the 9/11 disaster.. and fucking us on gas prices when they steal it for free... i dont think our country will ever improve, the system is too corrupt.
medicineman
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Can't really blame him, can you?What do you want to bet that Bill hasn't been "upside" of Hillary since Monica?
Vi
medicineman
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Nice post, You are a wad, (short for dickwad) as shown by your posts.
ViRedd
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medicineman
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Hey Vi, I don't have to read every word to know this is right wing hate speak. I refuse to be a victim of such obnoxious rhetoric. I'm sure there were a lot of injured people that he actually helped. Doctors do make mistakes and unlike you or I, when they make mistakers someone suffers, physically. To be compensated for your injuries is the American way. I have spoken out for socialized medicine where these outlandish rewards would be eliminated and replaced with a value oriented reward for malpractice, but you and others like you see this as the free enterprise way of doing business. So here's my question: what are you bitching about?
Mango Haze
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you dont have to believe anything. ive seen countless videos with info about bush and every other person. you just havent heard anything like alot of us have. your just pissed off because everyone hates bush. i would take alot of time in writing this shit but im pretty tired right now. but if u dont wanna read this stuff then leave guy