Whats this growing on my plant?

sonicgrower

sonicgrower

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Im a first time grower so this may be stupid to some of you. I started five plants in my closet with plant lights on the side walls and LED's overhead. The plants are about a little over a month old and still small, and they are starting to get little secondary leaves between the branches. Is this normal growth or should I start the flowering cycle. I have been letting the lights on a 24/7 cycle or the last month ever since they have gotten sucker leaves.

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Can you tell me if this is just normal growth while vegging or should I start to flower?

Thanks.
 

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sonicgrower

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Thanks. I was hoping to put some lowryder #2 in there also. Im hoping I can leave these vege until the lowryders are finished. Is there a time period I HAVE to start to flower. My space is about 7ft tall, five feet wide and 4.5 feet deep. It should be enough room for 10 plants Im guessing in 3 gallon buckets.
 
1982grower

1982grower

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if those plants have been going for a month you need more light. Put the lights as close as possible. like 1 inch from the plants. There is no way those plants will fill 3 gallon pales with that amount of light. put them in 8 inch pots. get the lights close and let the plant get a little more bushy and then flower
 
sonicgrower

sonicgrower

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I have no idea what type of plants these are. I basically have 6 GE 24" plant bulbs (20Watts) on 3 sides and a LED grow pannel http://shop.sunshine-systems.com/product.sc?productId=1

How do I determine how many lights I need. I cant go the MH or HPS route. Its too expensive at this time. Maybe I will go and get some CFLs. What lights would you get if you could spend another $100 bucks?

thanks
 
VaporBros

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sittinherebored said:
your plants are light starved bad. ive heard nothing good about leds
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thats because you haven't done your research.

Anyways, get those plants closer to the lights without burning them.

You can flower whenever you feel like it. Keep in mind you plants will grow 2x-3x bigger when in flower.
 
James Bond

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sonicgrower said:
Im a first time grower so this may be stupid to some of you. I started five plants in my closet with plant lights on the side walls and LED's overhead. The plants are about a little over a month old and still small, and they are starting to get little secondary leaves between the branches. Is this normal growth or should I start the flowering cycle. I have been letting the lights on a 24/7 cycle or the last month ever since they have gotten sucker leaves.

I will add a few pics..
Can you tell me if this is just normal growth while vegging or should I start to flower?

Thanks.
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Your plants are stretched because you aren't giving them adequate light. You need to get a different light source than the leds. If you want to go cheap I would suggest getting some flours that are considered daylight, 20,000k I think, for veg. Look at my album and some other plant pictures on the site. The leds will grow a plant, but not an incredibly healthy plant.
 
mannurse801

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Yup as people mentioned, the plants need MORE light. If you are only using one 14 W LED panel, you won't go very far at all. That growth at the bottom is your plant asking for more light, along with the very stretched appearance. The plants do look healthy enough, so I imagine, wioth just more light, and the same care you have been giving them, then you will be fine!!!!
 
sittinherebored

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VaporBros said:
thats because you haven't done your research.

Anyways, get those plants closer to the lights without burning them.

You can flower whenever you feel like it. Keep in mind you plants will grow 2x-3x bigger when in flower.
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i have read inot them and very quickly decided against it. way too expensive and only for a tiny lil one. he probly coulda got a hps for what he paid for those rows of keychain lights that would have given him more than enough light
 
mannurse801

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Not worth the price of the lights. He did not however compare THC/Potency. The LCD lights made for a spider plant, huge and lanky, the HID, tight, compact. So in essence, the LED plants would need twice the room, hence half the actualy plants could be grow, completely negating the hydro savings, as you would need twice the space and hence, twice the lights. HID hands down the winner... for now. Give LED's 10 yearsa, and I imagine HID will be a thing of the past...
 
James Bond

James Bond

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mannurse801 said:
Not worth the price of the lights. He did not however compare THC/Potency. The LCD lights made for a spider plant, huge and lanky, the HID, tight, compact. So in essence, the LED plants would need twice the room, hence half the actualy plants could be grow, completely negating the hydro savings, as you would need twice the space and hence, twice the lights. HID hands down the winner... for now. Give LED's 10 yearsa, and I imagine HID will be a thing of the past...
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I completely agree with you, in 10 years there may be advancements in LEDs. However for now they are inferior to everything other than incandescent lighting. The plant shouldn't need to stretch like that it is not a good thing.
 
sittinherebored

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wow were gonna be shooting f'n lasers at our plants in ten years. or at least thats how it looks when i try to picture a crazy ass LED thatll out-do HID. probly at the cost of a cheap car...
 
James Bond

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sittinherebored said:
wow were gonna be shooting f'n lasers at our plants in ten years. or at least thats how it looks when i try to picture a crazy ass LED thatll out-do HID. probly at the cost of a cheap car...
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Lol, I just figure if some one is really intent on growing with LEDs they either are fools, have to much money to waste, or are attempting to pioneer the growing world. In any case as of now LEDs are inferior to proven light sources that are by far cheaper.
 
James Bond

James Bond

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sittinherebored said:
:lol:im gonna be a pioneer and put my keychain flashlight over a lil plant
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When I say "pioneer" that doesn't necessarily mean it's a genius of a pioneer, lol. I could see benefits of LEDs low electric consumtion, long life, and low heat emission. However you can not ignore the obvious downfalls inadequate lighting and major initial expense. They just are not up to par today at this moment and buying a $400+ set up is not pioneering.

To be honest I think the only real benefit some one could really get with using LEDs would be using them to supplement a better light source, say CFLs. Because LEDs are so small you could make led clusters and put them close to the center of the plant to emit light within the plant where other sources don't get to as well. Just a thought, but it could be benificial or it may make so little difference that it's just unecessary effort.
 
sittinherebored

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James Bond said:
When I say "pioneer" that doesn't necessarily mean it's a genius of a pioneer, lol. I could see benefits of LEDs low electric consumtion, long life, and low heat emission. However you can not ignore the obvious downfalls inadequate lighting and major initial expense. They just are not up to par today at this moment and buying a $400+ set up is not pioneering.
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why does it have to be hundreds of lil lights? it would probly work sooooo much better if there was an LED light the size of a heatlamp
 
sittinherebored

sittinherebored

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but it would be one light bulb instead of a crazy amount of lil ones that all have to be wired and other stuff. plus, a little lightbulb is still as powerfull as a little lightbulb. more of them helps but there is a limit.
 
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