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CrackerJax
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I agree with you Natrone 100%, but the BIG difference is We Love Duh is not at the wheel of the US Govt. His prophecy is not national policy (thank goodness), Islam's prophecy IS in control of Iran and it's nuclear desires. That is a very scary thought. It is the people who believe in this nonsense who would push the button.
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TheBrutalTruth
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They have a long history of routinely killing each other, raping each other's wives, and burning each others villages. After five thousand years of routinely trying to kill each other, or their neighbors they have forgotten what it is like to be rational, intelligent, and peaceful human beings. There's also the fact that unlike Western Civilization which benefited from the Roman Empire, and the Greek Democracies the Middle East has never had anything like that.Hindu's believe in reincarnation and Christians believe in Heaven and you don't see either of them pushing the button (WW2 excepted), so what makes Muslims so different?
Between the cultural tendency towards violence and aggression, and a lack of sound political concepts such as representative government and free elections you have what amounts to tyrannical regimes that are capable of forcing people to do what they want instead of what the people want.
Besides, the biggest problem is that its not even the people of Iran. The people of Iran could probably really give a damn less. The problem is that they are stuck with a bunch of psychotics, zealots and fundamentalists that are running their country.
CrackerJax
New Member
As was mentioned previously by someone who thought they were making a point in their favor.... the Muslim world lives by a different set of rules. One set of rules is fairly non oppressive, and the other is overly oppressive. The western world doesn't think it's okay to behead someone, the Arabs do. the western world doesn't think you need to have your right hand severed if you steal, the Arabs do. The western world does not believe stoning someone for infidelity, even if the woman was raped 
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Yes, indeed, there are two different sets of rules. One is civilized and one is barbaric, and it shows quite clearly.
The Arabs need to grow up. Lighten up on the superstition is real or I'll kill you mentality.
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. Yes, indeed, there are two different sets of rules. One is civilized and one is barbaric, and it shows quite clearly.
The Arabs need to grow up. Lighten up on the superstition is real or I'll kill you mentality.
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medicineman
New Member
Here's a slight deviance for you. The muslim world in general doesn't imprison their citizens for smoking herb, we do???? Whats up with that? I mean, do you really thing they are smoking tobacco in all those hookas in Iran?As was mentioned previously by someone who thought they were making a point in their favor.... the Muslim world lives by a different set of rules. One set of rules is fairly non oppressive, and the other is overly oppressive. The western world doesn't think it's okay to behead someone, the Arabs do. the western world doesn't think you need to have your right hand severed if you steal, the Arabs do. The western world does not believe stoning someone for infidelity, even if the woman was raped
Yes, indeed, there are two different sets of rules. One is civilized and one is barbaric, and it shows quite clearly.
The Arabs need to grow up. Lighten up on the superstition is real or I'll kill you mentality.
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TheBrutalTruth
Well-Known Member
Actually you're wrong Med. In the Islamic portion of the Middle East doing any sort of drug is punishable. Tobacco, Alcohol, Khat, Marijuana, any drug, either using or distributing is a crime.
CrackerJax
New Member
that is a nice factoid but hardly a comparison of civility. Besides those hookas are large and designed for ONE handed operation..... now you know why.When I worked in Saudi many years ago, one of the first things I was told was to keep a very low profile. Do not engage a woman in conversation. Do not take pictures of women. NEVER pick something up unless you can prove right there that you own it. The big one was last.... the work transition guide points to a little old "cleric" walking with a cane down the street with two HUGE bodyguards and says, "never make that man upset in any way. Cross the street if you see him. If he points the cane at you, we will not be able to help you, you will be taken away. I took the money, kept my head low, and vowed never to live in a place like that again, for any amount. They will never gat ahead and join the modern world going the way they are. It is the widening gap between the two worlds which is at the heart of the conflicts. The Moslims are falling behind, and they know it.
Believe me, that kind of society is best looked at through a rear view mirror.
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TheBrutalTruth
Well-Known Member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis
Saudi Arabia Has been used An Iraqi man named Mattar bin Bakhit al-Khazaali was convicted of smuggling hashish and was executed in the northern town of Arar, close to the Iraqi border.
Indonesia Has been used In 1997, the Indonesian government under international pressure[citation needed] added the death penalty as a punishment for those convicted of drugs in their country. The law has yet to be enforced on any significant, well-established drug dealers. Rather, the trend has been to execute unknown, first time, and clueless alleged drug traffickers, who don't have the cunning, resources, and contacts to persuade the authorities to set them free.[citation needed] The former Indonesian President, Megawati Sukarnoputri announced Indonesia's intent to implement a fierce war on drugs in 2002. She called for the execution of all drug dealers. "For those who distribute drugs, life sentences and other prison sentences are no longer sufficient," she said. "No sentence is sufficient other than the death sentence." Indonesia's new president, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, also proudly supports executions for drug dealers.[44]Arab Emirates Sentenced In the United Arab Emirates city of Fujairah, a woman named Lisa Tray was sentenced to death in December 2004, after being found guilty of possessing and dealing hashish. Undercover officers in Fujairah claim they caught Tray with 149 grams of hashish. Her lawyers have appealed the sentence.
People's Republic of China Frequently Used Death penalty is exercised regularly for drug offenses under Chinese law, often in an annual frenzy corresponding to the United Nations' International Day Against Drug Abuse and Illicit Drug Trafficking[49] The government does not make precise records public, however Amnesty International estimates that around 500 people are executed there each year for drug offenses. Those executed have typically been convicted of smuggling or trafficking in anything from cannabis to methamphetamine.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country
Iran Legal/Illegal Growing cannabis is legal if planted for food purposes as the seeds are eaten by the Iranian people, and companies often draw oil from the seeds which is sold legally. Using cannabis for psychoactive purposes is technically illegal and so smoking it in public is an example of what can be considered an illegal ingestion, but the enforcement of this is next to nothing since it is usually not possible to tell what a person is smoking and since smoking other herbs is tolerated or legal, not much is ever done. [19]
South Korea Illegal Not tolerated. Hair tests can be taken upon suspicion. Jail time minimum 6 months.[citation needed]
Kuwait Illegal Possession punishable by prison sentence, however minor cases usually overlooked. Sale and cultivation punishable by life in prison or death.[citation needed]
Malaysia Illegal If an individual is caught with more than 200 grams of cannabis on them, the penalty is the mandatory death sentence by hanging.[citation needed] Saudi Arabia Illegal Use and possession for personal use of any kind of drugs is punishable by imprisonment if caught. Imprisonment for personal use could go up to 6 months jail time or more. Dealing and smuggling of high amounts of drugs usually result in harsher prison time or even execution, although recently executions are rare. Foreigners who use drugs might be deported.[34][citation needed]
Singapore Illegal Cannabis is a Class A drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act, making it illegal to cultivate, sell, or possess. Trafficking in more than 250 grams of Cannabis is punishable by death. [35]
Turkey Illegal Cultivation, sale, transportation punished by 2 to 5 years in prison, if not an organized crime. Consumption is illegal but may be tolerable at first time. Consumption or buying is punished with 1 to 2 years in jail and once in 3 months drug testing (as evidence of not using anymore).[citation needed]
United Arab Emirates Illegal Even the smallest amounts of the drug can lead to a mandatory four year prison sentence[40].
TheBrutalTruth
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http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/08/uaes-very-scary-drug.html
UAE's very scary drug laws
Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, February 8, 2008 2:59 PM | permalink
In January, I posted the news that a young man had been arrested in Dubai for carrying melatonin. This BBC article looks into the story, and serves up some other examples of the draconian drug laws in the United Arab Emirates. Examples:
A Swiss man "is serving a four-year jail term after three poppy seeds from a bread roll he ate at Heathrow airport were found on his clothes."
A 43-year-old Englishman who had a cigarette stuck to his shoe was sentenced was sentenced to four years in prison for possession of 0.003g of cannabis, which I would imagine is a microscopic amount.
Customs officers held a woman for eight weeks before she was able to convince authorities that her codeine pills were prescribed by her doctor for back pain.
http://www.photius.com/countries/saudi_arabia/national_security/saudi_arabia_national_security_crime_and_punishment.html
Crimes subject to the death sentence included murder, apostasy from Islam, adultery, drug smuggling, and sabotage. Under certain conditions, rape and armed robbery could also lead to execution. Executions could be carried out by beheading, firing squad, or stoning of the convicted person in a drugged state. All seventeen executions carried out in 1990 were by beheading.
Under the sharia, repeated theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand, administered under anesthetic. Because of its severity, a number of qualifications have been introduced to mitigate the punishment. If the thief repents and makes restitution before the case is brought before a judge, the punishment can be reduced; furthermore, the victim can demand recompense rather than punishment or can grant a pardon. Highway crime was considered a crime against public safety and thus subject to more severe punishment. Aggravated theft can be punished by cross-amputation of a hand and a foot. Such cases have been unusual, but Amnesty International reported four of them in 1986. In 1990 fewer than ten hand amputations took place, at least five of which were administered to foreigners.
In 1987, based on a ruling by the ulama, drug smugglers and those who received and distributed drugs from abroad were made subject to the death sentence for bringing "corruption" into the country.
http://current.com/items/89258702/drug_trafficker_beheaded_in_saudi_arabia.htm
Drug trafficker beheaded in Saudi Arabia
http://www.france24.com/en/20080831-drug-t...
A convicted drug trafficker was put to death by the sword in Saudi Arabia's eastern city of Khobar on Sunday, the interior ministry said.
Hussein Muilu, a Saudi national, was condemned to death after being convicted of smuggling hashish into the kingdom, the ministry said in a statement carried by the official SPA news agency.
Sunday's beheading brings to 71 the number of executions announced by Saudi Arabia this year.
Last year, a record 153 people were put to death in the ultra-conservative Arab kingdom, which applies a strict version of sharia, or Islamic law. This figure compared with 37 beheaded in 2006.
Rape, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, where executions are usually carried out in public.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/533/death_penalty_iran_saudi_arabia_syria
from Drug War Chronicle, Issue #533, 4/25/08
The resort to the death penalty for drug offenses continued apace in recent days. According to reports compiled by the anti-death penalty organization Hands Off Cain, both Iran and Saudi Arabia were hard at it again. Meanwhile, the Saudis have come under fire from Syrian activists complaining that large numbers of their countrymen have fallen under the executioner's sword in Saudi Arabia.
According to recent reports, Saudi citizen Abdullah al-Qahtani was executed for trafficking in tranquilizers in Riyadh on April 11; two Nigerians caught smuggling cocaine into the kingdom inside their bodies, Mohammed Qaddus Suleyman and Idris Abdel Ghani Mohammed, were beheaded in the western Mecca region on April 13; a Saudi man, Ayyed al-Dousary, was executed for selling drugs in the southwestern city of Abha on April 15; and a Jordanian, Mohammed bin Awadh al-Khalidi, was executed for trafficking in tranquilizers in Al Qarah on April 17. Four days later, Iran got back into the game by hanging four people convicted of drug trafficking in the country's southeast.
Meanwhile Syrian human rights activists said that Saudi Arabia has sentenced at least 30 of their compatriots to death on drug charges and jailed hundreds more. "This arbitrary punishment is based on wild interpretations of the Koran. Trials lacked any modicum of justice," lawyer Mohannad al-Hassani said after meeting Syrian officials to raise the plight of the inmates. The activists expressed concern that the Syrian citizens could be suffering from the political tensions between Syria and Saudi Arabia. "I hope regular citizens do not end up paying the price for bad relations between two Arab countries," Hassani said.
Hundreds of Syrians were in Saudi jails for drug offenses, he said, many of whom had spent years awaiting trial. They are mostly young truck drivers and unskilled workers, he said.
UAE's very scary drug laws
Posted by Mark Frauenfelder, February 8, 2008 2:59 PM | permalink
In January, I posted the news that a young man had been arrested in Dubai for carrying melatonin. This BBC article looks into the story, and serves up some other examples of the draconian drug laws in the United Arab Emirates. Examples:
A Swiss man "is serving a four-year jail term after three poppy seeds from a bread roll he ate at Heathrow airport were found on his clothes."
A 43-year-old Englishman who had a cigarette stuck to his shoe was sentenced was sentenced to four years in prison for possession of 0.003g of cannabis, which I would imagine is a microscopic amount.
Customs officers held a woman for eight weeks before she was able to convince authorities that her codeine pills were prescribed by her doctor for back pain.
http://www.photius.com/countries/saudi_arabia/national_security/saudi_arabia_national_security_crime_and_punishment.html
Crimes subject to the death sentence included murder, apostasy from Islam, adultery, drug smuggling, and sabotage. Under certain conditions, rape and armed robbery could also lead to execution. Executions could be carried out by beheading, firing squad, or stoning of the convicted person in a drugged state. All seventeen executions carried out in 1990 were by beheading.
Under the sharia, repeated theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand, administered under anesthetic. Because of its severity, a number of qualifications have been introduced to mitigate the punishment. If the thief repents and makes restitution before the case is brought before a judge, the punishment can be reduced; furthermore, the victim can demand recompense rather than punishment or can grant a pardon. Highway crime was considered a crime against public safety and thus subject to more severe punishment. Aggravated theft can be punished by cross-amputation of a hand and a foot. Such cases have been unusual, but Amnesty International reported four of them in 1986. In 1990 fewer than ten hand amputations took place, at least five of which were administered to foreigners.
In 1987, based on a ruling by the ulama, drug smugglers and those who received and distributed drugs from abroad were made subject to the death sentence for bringing "corruption" into the country.
http://current.com/items/89258702/drug_trafficker_beheaded_in_saudi_arabia.htm
Drug trafficker beheaded in Saudi Arabia
http://www.france24.com/en/20080831-drug-t...
A convicted drug trafficker was put to death by the sword in Saudi Arabia's eastern city of Khobar on Sunday, the interior ministry said.
Hussein Muilu, a Saudi national, was condemned to death after being convicted of smuggling hashish into the kingdom, the ministry said in a statement carried by the official SPA news agency.
Sunday's beheading brings to 71 the number of executions announced by Saudi Arabia this year.
Last year, a record 153 people were put to death in the ultra-conservative Arab kingdom, which applies a strict version of sharia, or Islamic law. This figure compared with 37 beheaded in 2006.
Rape, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, where executions are usually carried out in public.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/533/death_penalty_iran_saudi_arabia_syria
from Drug War Chronicle, Issue #533, 4/25/08
The resort to the death penalty for drug offenses continued apace in recent days. According to reports compiled by the anti-death penalty organization Hands Off Cain, both Iran and Saudi Arabia were hard at it again. Meanwhile, the Saudis have come under fire from Syrian activists complaining that large numbers of their countrymen have fallen under the executioner's sword in Saudi Arabia.
According to recent reports, Saudi citizen Abdullah al-Qahtani was executed for trafficking in tranquilizers in Riyadh on April 11; two Nigerians caught smuggling cocaine into the kingdom inside their bodies, Mohammed Qaddus Suleyman and Idris Abdel Ghani Mohammed, were beheaded in the western Mecca region on April 13; a Saudi man, Ayyed al-Dousary, was executed for selling drugs in the southwestern city of Abha on April 15; and a Jordanian, Mohammed bin Awadh al-Khalidi, was executed for trafficking in tranquilizers in Al Qarah on April 17. Four days later, Iran got back into the game by hanging four people convicted of drug trafficking in the country's southeast.
Meanwhile Syrian human rights activists said that Saudi Arabia has sentenced at least 30 of their compatriots to death on drug charges and jailed hundreds more. "This arbitrary punishment is based on wild interpretations of the Koran. Trials lacked any modicum of justice," lawyer Mohannad al-Hassani said after meeting Syrian officials to raise the plight of the inmates. The activists expressed concern that the Syrian citizens could be suffering from the political tensions between Syria and Saudi Arabia. "I hope regular citizens do not end up paying the price for bad relations between two Arab countries," Hassani said.
Hundreds of Syrians were in Saudi jails for drug offenses, he said, many of whom had spent years awaiting trial. They are mostly young truck drivers and unskilled workers, he said.
CrackerJax
New Member
However it is OKAY to break your daughter in sexually.... 
lawdy.....
Your a regular Miner brutal...
for the effort.
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lawdy.....Your a regular Miner brutal...
for the effort.out.
natrone23
Well-Known Member
If you dont like there laws than don't live there........The U.S has the largest prison population in the entire world. We electrocute are people instead of beheading them.......................Cracker not everyone in the world wants to live the western style lifestyle, stop trying to force your beliefs onto other cultures. What if someone came here told you that they don't imprison people who steal or rob and murder in their culture so we should follow suit, because are system is a backwards and we imprison people who murder.
Woomeister
Well-Known Member
^^^ well said.
CrackerJax
New Member
I could care less how the Iranian people live to be honest. They can all live any way they wish.
What I cannot abide by is having a revolutionary regime based on the hidden Imam getting nuclear weapons and long distance rockets.
It has nothing to do with crime rates or Israel or treating women as cattle.
Keep deflecting...
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panhead
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I love the israeli women & their military men are hard as nails,the israeli military has the balls that the united states used to have.
Isreal will not just sit around talking about shit once they are half assed sure those lunatics have the bomb near completion,they will blow that mud pit called iran right off the map & there wont be one thing the iranian air force can do to stop them,i love it when israel has had enough cause they dont fuk around,iran has had a good old fashioned ass kicking comming for decades & it looks like their gonna get it too.
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PadawanBater
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The amount of ignorance portrayed is astounding.