Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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OneHit

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UB, What do you mean when you say most flush to get rid of the unit of producing buds? You mean the nutrients?
 
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OneHit said:
UB, What do you mean when you say most flush to get rid of the unit of producing buds? You mean the nutrients?
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I said, ".....and most "flush" their plants ruining the very unit that produces the buds!"

When you deprive your plant of nutrients (or use too much bloom food too often) you will induce leaf drop. You won't benefit from this secondary harvest if the plant doesn't have enough healthy leaves to produce or bulk lower buds.

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What about when you have PH problems? I seem to have crazy PH problems in my soil grow. When I PH the run off from the bottom of the pot, the PH is around 4.5. That was with fresh soil, no nutes and 7pH water going in. And I use a soiless soil, Promix. Ive since stopped really worrying about the PH, as they seem to be growing decently without me having to try to correct the problem
 
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born2killspam

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You NEED to fix your pH.. What are you using for pH up? Plants often seem to thrive just before they succumb violoently to problems at the roots..
Also, what kind of nutes, and what exactly is your soil-less soil built from? Is it peat? If it is, that would explain alot..
 
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What about when you have PH problems? I seem to have crazy PH problems in my soil grow. When I PH the run off from the bottom of the pot, the PH is around 4.5. That was with fresh soil, no nutes and 7pH water going in. And I use a soiless soil, Promix. Ive since stopped really worrying about the PH, as they seem to be growing decently without me having to try to correct the problem
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Sounds like the problem is with your pH meter. Promix has limestone in it to buffer the low pH of the peat. http://www.premierhort.com/eProMix/Gardening/fGardening.htm
 
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I had thought that it might be the PH meter, but water PHed fine at 7, and its a newer meter. Ive only had it for a few months, and it hasnt been used too often. I use this particular bag of promix

Ive had this problem with my first grow too, and flushing didnt seem to fix the problem. So this time around, I stoped worrying about it, and just water with FF nutes every other watering.

As for the ph up, im not sure what brand, i Just got a bit off of ebay. It comes in powder form, and i just add it in water. Though i havnt used it this grow at all
 

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born2killspam, I just want to praise you for the amount of knowledge you obtain to all the science that goes behind growing MJ. I've been seeing you around on various posts now that I recognize your name, and the things you say, blow my mind. I just read you math on an old co2 thread and had no idea wtf you were talking about lol. Someday I hope to be able to have that amount of knowledge to use in my grow room :). Not tryin to kiss ass, just giving a simple compliment.
 
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I had thought that it might be the PH meter, but water PHed fine at 7, and its a newer meter.
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Calibrate before taking your readings with calibration solutions - 4.01 and 7.01. I buy a liter of each for about $14 total, has a shelf life of over a year. Store your electrode wet, tap water is fine, storage solution is better so the vendors say LOL. A tiny dab of cotton soaked in mineralized water in the cap is fine. Don't use distilled water in the cap to keep the electrode wet during storage. Apparently it screws up the electrode. Just don't let the electrode dry out during storage.

Ive only had it for a few months, and it hasnt been used too often. I use this particular bag of promix

Ive had this problem with my first grow too, and flushing didnt seem to fix the problem. So this time around, I stoped worrying about it, and just water with FF nutes every other watering.
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What is the NPK value of the FF nutes you're using?

As for the ph up, im not sure what brand, i Just got a bit off of ebay. It comes in powder form, and i just add it in water. Though i havnt used it this grow at all
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It's potassium hydroxide, not unlike lye, sodium hydroxide.

Premier soil products will be designed for a slight acidic value, I wouldn't mess with them if I was you.

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UB, The NPK value of the foxfarm nutes are .1 .3 .7 for big bloom, 2 4 8 for Tiger Bloom, and 6 4 4 for Grow Big. Growbig is the veg fert I used. How often do you calibrate your ph meter? I do have the calibration solution that came with the meter. Ill give that a try today and see if its right.
 
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update...ma clone that was hinging like a washing has roots...getting camira.tommorw.7mp..will post pics then..quick quistion uncle ben..how soon can a cut the clone @ 2 nods....got 6 w/w clones with 6 nods so will do them your way ben...tommrow..will take pics before a cut....
 
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LOL Born2kill. It took alot of effort to read through and understand that post. But Doppie, if you read the first post by UB. He says cut when its at 5-6 nodes
 
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Greenisgold

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Is this the UB from the old OG days? If so, you were so damn helpfull to me years ago when I started growing indoors. You turned me on and so many others to the benefit of alfalfa meal. I doubt if you remember, but you had a great tutorial on germinating seeds and such. I ordered some seeds from a company called aloha and found out that they stole your technique and posted it on their website. Anyhoo, I use to love your threads/posts as you had no problem telling it like it is. I never flush and your the main reason why I don't.
If this is not the UB that I remember, then ooooops.
Peace out
 
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Hey guys got another question for ya. Due to some news I got the other night, I need to flip the lights on my plants in a week. I'm going to post some pics of them of how their lookin this morning. The plants are pretty small but I was wondering whether I could still top them to at least get to main kolas. Or would it be to early, or not enough time to increase yield. Like I said, I'll have a week recovery period for whatever I do. Please give me a hand and let me know if there is anything I can do to increase my yield at this point or just to let them grow. Thank you ahead of time.

Oh and just something funny... that biggest plant in the middle... I found that bagseed on the floor as I was planting the seeds I got from Attitude. Lucky find i guess :)
 

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born2killspam

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I don't think flipping seedlings that early is the best approach at all, but some ppl do 12/12 from seed.. Keep an eye out for signs of pollen sacs..
 
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