Chemical Trails????
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BCtrippin
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Im just being open to possibilities, Im not asking anyone to convince me...
I started this thread you showed up and seem to get off out of proving me wrong. You could have just as easily not posted anything at all.
That vid is great, it shows another vapor trail. Great. Good for you. You found a vid of a vapor trail.....Heres the thing, you can already see the vapor in that trail starting to fade away. Its not forming any clouds that are sitting for long periods of time.
Dont come to a thread I started and tell me to STFU. Calm down man....if your getting that worked up over this you clearly have nothing better to do, maybe you should try growing some weed.
I started this thread you showed up and seem to get off out of proving me wrong. You could have just as easily not posted anything at all.
That vid is great, it shows another vapor trail. Great. Good for you. You found a vid of a vapor trail.....Heres the thing, you can already see the vapor in that trail starting to fade away. Its not forming any clouds that are sitting for long periods of time.
Dont come to a thread I started and tell me to STFU. Calm down man....if your getting that worked up over this you clearly have nothing better to do, maybe you should try growing some weed.
jfgordon1
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https://www.rollitup.org/politics/125295-chemtrials-hr-2977-must-watch.html
^^^ thats the one i started a few months ago, idk if thats the one your talking about tho
NewGrowth
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No thats not it maybe it way another thread and we got off on a chemtrail tangent or something.https://www.rollitup.org/politics/125295-chemtrials-hr-2977-must-watch.html
^^^ thats the one i started a few months ago, idk if thats the one your talking about tho
BCtrippin
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See the difference between vapor trails and the "chem trails"
It would take some sort of sprayer to do this, not a vapor trail.
Need more info?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rATXM1AveKI
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=20446.0
http://www.rense.com/general3/mel.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/nv/mywebsite/edb.html
Its not just USA. Its been happening all over Australia too. Its not a bunch of retards thinking vapor trails are chem trails. If it was always vapor trails then this would have been debunked in the 60s not now when its almost 2010.
Ever heard of HAARP
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen.html
Lots of info on the possibilities of chem trails.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread7729.html
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/
http://www.iff-ifoundfreedom.com/healthfreedom/chemreal.html
The info is out there. Dont tell me your the only one posting evidence, just because your too lazy to look, or dont believe it yourself does not make it untrue. Again, I want to be Very Clear, Im not saying this is or is not happening, what Im saying is that its a definite possibility and Im tired of people telling me Im wrong and its vapor trails, and thats it.
If you pick one link to go to, look at this one.
http://www.metatech.org/A06/chemtrails_reason_cause.html
Is that all vapor trails too?
http://www.benfrank.net/trails/index.html
Before you start flaming about how all that is BS and conspiracy crap take the time to read through some of it. Dont just read what they say, but WHY they believe what they do.
And that pic you posted.....THE PLANE IS STILL IN SIGHT......think about that one for a while. The 'chemtrails' sit for hours.....long after the plane has flown away. If the plane is in the pic then it really doesnt prove your point.
It would take some sort of sprayer to do this, not a vapor trail.
Need more info?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rATXM1AveKI
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=20446.0
http://www.rense.com/general3/mel.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/nv/mywebsite/edb.html
Its not just USA. Its been happening all over Australia too. Its not a bunch of retards thinking vapor trails are chem trails. If it was always vapor trails then this would have been debunked in the 60s not now when its almost 2010.
Ever heard of HAARP
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen.html
Lots of info on the possibilities of chem trails.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread7729.html
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/
http://www.iff-ifoundfreedom.com/healthfreedom/chemreal.html
The info is out there. Dont tell me your the only one posting evidence, just because your too lazy to look, or dont believe it yourself does not make it untrue. Again, I want to be Very Clear, Im not saying this is or is not happening, what Im saying is that its a definite possibility and Im tired of people telling me Im wrong and its vapor trails, and thats it.
If you pick one link to go to, look at this one.
http://www.metatech.org/A06/chemtrails_reason_cause.html
Is that all vapor trails too?
http://www.benfrank.net/trails/index.html
Before you start flaming about how all that is BS and conspiracy crap take the time to read through some of it. Dont just read what they say, but WHY they believe what they do.
And that pic you posted.....THE PLANE IS STILL IN SIGHT......think about that one for a while. The 'chemtrails' sit for hours.....long after the plane has flown away. If the plane is in the pic then it really doesnt prove your point.
BCtrippin
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Ha Ha I knew he was a CT
Its pretty bad when I have to quote myself because people are too lazy or ignorant to read it for themselves. Read the Whole thread, read Entire posts, dont just skim through and say BS.
NewGrowth
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Yeah it was the thread that fdd posted all the pics on. Which thread was that?
BCtrippin
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[quote="SICC";1945323]I heard about this like a year ago, iv read and looked into alot of shit, changes the way you look at things[/quote]
Yeah, lots of people just hear about it, and thats why they are so quick to pass judgment. Well when you see the things flying overhead you start to wonder, and then you take the time to do a little research. And anyone who has taken some time to research "chemtrails" very quickly realizes they are not the only ones who are concerned.
Its Literally people from all over the World who report seeing the same types of things. These arent the type of people who claim they saw a UFO or that they have been abducted by aliens. These are Real people, Normal people who are noticing something out of the ordinary and are wondering WTF it is.
Anyone who thinks that their government tells them everything needs a dose of Reality. Everyone thought Area 51 was BS and another conspiracy theory until people started gong to the desert and looking at it for themselves. Its very real, and the government still doesnt release any info on whats going on there.
The J.A.N.E.T. terminal in Las Vegas that flys to Area 51. Private airport with all private jets. Just Another Not Existent Air Terminal. Look it up, go to Nevada and see it for yourself, its very real and not conspiracy BS.
The USA governent dosed their own damn empoyees with LSD during the "electric koolaid" tests. This is also fact. Look it up.
Would you really put it past them to attempt to slow down global warming?
Yeah, lots of people just hear about it, and thats why they are so quick to pass judgment. Well when you see the things flying overhead you start to wonder, and then you take the time to do a little research. And anyone who has taken some time to research "chemtrails" very quickly realizes they are not the only ones who are concerned.
Its Literally people from all over the World who report seeing the same types of things. These arent the type of people who claim they saw a UFO or that they have been abducted by aliens. These are Real people, Normal people who are noticing something out of the ordinary and are wondering WTF it is.
Anyone who thinks that their government tells them everything needs a dose of Reality. Everyone thought Area 51 was BS and another conspiracy theory until people started gong to the desert and looking at it for themselves. Its very real, and the government still doesnt release any info on whats going on there.
The J.A.N.E.T. terminal in Las Vegas that flys to Area 51. Private airport with all private jets. Just Another Not Existent Air Terminal. Look it up, go to Nevada and see it for yourself, its very real and not conspiracy BS.
The USA governent dosed their own damn empoyees with LSD during the "electric koolaid" tests. This is also fact. Look it up.
Would you really put it past them to attempt to slow down global warming?
BCtrippin
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Nice post. I like that one that curves around, Id love to hear someone explain how vapor can do that.
mindphuk
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Well then did you open the thread up with questions like: "anyone have any ideas?"
"anyone know anything about this?"
and of course, "Yeah, but vapor wouldnt sit there for hours with the sun shining on it on a totally clear day. Theres a BIG difference between vapor trails and these. You can see the jets flying, then they turn something on and you see the white trails, then they turn it off and fly away."
It certainly sounds to me like you are looking for answers. I personally am not trying to convince you, but am trying to answer your questions. I apologize for the STFU comment, but it just seems to me that you aren't acknowledging anyone's explanations and have been very closed minded to the ideas presented here.
An analogy (maybe not the best one but...) would be like if I came here to RIU as a noob and asked why I couldn't grow pot with my $30 halogen bulb lamp since it puts out a lot of lumens, and then you and others try to explain efficiency, PAR, color temps, etc. But I keep insisting my halogen has a yellow color, and bright so it should work, etc. I bet you would get a bit frustrated with me since I apparently am not really reading or acknowledging any of your responses but appear to have my mind made up.
So in come responses explaining how these are merely regular contrails.
Other posters and I have given you plenty of scientific and photographic evidence that normal contrails can exist for many hours or dissipate quickly depending on conditions, in much the same way that clouds hang around or break up, or snowflakes can either last long enough to accumulate on the ground or in other situations, vanish in seconds, even in freezing temperatures.
The answer to both of those is the same, sublimation.
Sublimation is when a substance (in this case, water), goes directly from being solid to being vapor (a gas), without actually melting into a liquid. Its like evaporation, except instead of a liquid evaporating, its a solid (water ice). If the air is dry (i.e. there is little water vapor in it), then the ice crystals will quickly sublimate into vapor, and the trail will vanish quickly.
However, if the air already has a lot of water vapor in it, then the ice will sublimate slower, and the trail will last longer.
If the air has so much water vapor in it already that it cant hold any more (i.e. its supersaturated), then the ice crystals cant sublimate, and so the contrail will stay around for a long time. The ice crystals might even attract water from the air, if there is enough, and the contrail will get thicker. Winds might make the contrail spread out to even cover the whole sky.
The above is a simplification, as other factors like temperature, pressure, and sunlight have an effect. But it explains the basic reasons why some trails last only a few seconds, and some can last for hours, and spread out to cover the sky.
Yes, I know I have explained this before, but I'm not trying to 'prove you wrong' but merely answer the questions you started out with. It was only after you became defensive and began repeating the same questions that had already been answer, often in a snotty tone, that I responded in kind.
One last thing. There have been a few questions posed to you that you still have declined to answer. Those questions were asked to help understand your thought process and maybe help you break through the logical barrier that seems to be blocking you from understanding.
I am more than willing to take a step back and start over again from the beginning. All I ask is that you do the same and give me the same courtesy by providing actual evidence and scientific explanation that contradicts the information I and others have offered, rather than just your opinion that we're wrong.
