Tent walls

joesoap2013

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Anybody got any tips the tent sucking sir in has made my growing foot print maybe 100mm each side smaller20240729_022220.jpg
Don't know if opening like plug wire holes up the top of the tent ..know to make my intake area bigger
I think this is the first grow I've noticed this
Suppose makes my light super effiecnt
 

Blue brother

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Get a bigger intake, there's no need for this much negative pressure, I see it all the time though, it only needs to be sufficient so smells don't escape, when your tent is sucked in this much you're greatly reducing the ability of your equipment to control your environment, I bet if you had a bigger intake you would even be able to turn your exhaust down abit and still maintain the same environment.

I do understand why people do this cos it's scary to think smells might escape but it really isn't necessary, ANY level of negative pressure will do the trick

hope this helps
 

joesoap2013

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Pushed the walls out a bit today
Quite owl gap like ⁹
Get a bigger intake, there's no need for this much negative pressure, I see it all the time though, it only needs to be sufficient so smells don't escape, when your tent is sucked in this much you're greatly reducing the ability of your equipment to control your environment, I bet if you had a bigger intake you would even be able to turn your exhaust down abit and still maintain the same environment.

I do understand why people do this cos it's scary to think smells might escape but it really isn't necessary, ANY level of negative pressure will do the trick

hope this helps

I'm using a 6 inch fan on aduct few bends on it
Was using a 4 inch fan it wasn't cutting it like was a bit Danky in there
The 6 inch gives a good fresh air
What about maybe a 6 inch intake duct
 
I just put a piece of screen actually it was a piece of a furnace filter and zip tie to a piece of two inch pipe and stuck it in a port at the bottom of the tent which allowed passive air flow and my tent didn't suck in at all
 

Blue brother

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Pushed the walls out a bit today
Quite owl gap like ⁹



I'm using a 6 inch fan on aduct few bends on it
Was using a 4 inch fan it wasn't cutting it like was a bit Danky in there
The 6 inch gives a good fresh air
What about maybe a 6 inch intake duct
Just experiment until there's only slight negative pressure, open up vents etc. you'll see when it's sufficient as the tent walls will relax and won't be so taught
 

ptegler

New Member
speaking of vents..... do most simply open them to the outside world?
I have thin, old cardboard framed small furnace filters in front of my intake vents to minimize anything from the basement entering the tent. They also double as light blockers. So my tent negative pressure might be above most others. I guess it depends on where your intake gathers it's fresh air from
 

DCcan

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speaking of vents..... do most simply open them to the outside world?
I have thin, old cardboard framed small furnace filters in front of my intake vents to minimize anything from the basement entering the tent. They also double as light blockers. So my tent negative pressure might be above most others. I guess it depends on where your intake gathers it's fresh air from
I don't use the screened openings at all, just draws bugs when the lights are on.
I use these or something similar, they have a double layer filter to keep light and bugs out.
You can use a flange like the photo, or run a piece of duct. Easier to pop off and clean also.

Usually, you want 2 passive intakes same size(or bigger) than exhaust duct.
Keep the airflow balanced by using same lengths of intake duct.

 
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ptrgrow

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just use pantyhose (net) for flow filter 1 euro....passive air in, outside tent
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as spacers maybe use broken yard stick like this: over the spacer looks maybe much for you like10cm but is only 3cm at highest
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passiv air in, inside tent without pantyhose net... but you can do it!
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inside tent air out (way to axial fan). again pantyhose net:
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and outside tent axial fan:
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the xtra spacers, alu spacers etc all 2 expensive. the air flow net, the dry cabinets, the dry nets etc. they just want make money u not need that...and i never belive youre tent wall going 100mm (10 cm) in... LOL
i use a 40cm x 40cm x 160cm = 0,16square meters tent with a overdimensional axial fan with 275 m³/h and the walls are 20mm (2cm) at highest in....and the axial fan is for 80cm x 80cm x 200cm = 0,64square meters maybe for 120cm x 120 cm x 200cm = 1,44square meters space tents!
also my axial fan is total overdosed for just a small 40cm x 40cm x 160cm = 0.16square meters tent!
also i just winder how can it be...with your tent walls???

and maybe iam to stoned...and read now the tent is not smaller becoose of the air...
also it is smaller becoose the size of tent minus the size of the tubular also maybe 40cm minus the 2cm tubular thickness each side...but your tubulars are not 5cm in your tent, maybe you must press the ties more then the size is from the tent casing will fit and is not longer 100mm to small...idk what the problem is? mean you the growspace is not 40cm x 40cm is in reality only 38cm x 38cm? or we talk about the tent casing not fit? or the walls are pulled in from the axial fan ? sry that i so hard stoned!
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i think you mean the axial fan pull the tent walls together...in your photo the left wall is never 10cm in...thats normal the tent not suck! how big is nthe axial fan ??? 80000qubikmeters per hour?? can you run the fan maybe with half power??
 
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ptrgrow

Member
Get a bigger intake, there's no need for this much negative pressure, I see it all the time though, it only needs to be sufficient so smells don't escape, when your tent is sucked in this much you're greatly reducing the ability of your equipment to control your environment, I bet if you had a bigger intake you would even be able to turn your exhaust down abit and still maintain the same environment.

I do understand why people do this cos it's scary to think smells might escape but it really isn't necessary, ANY level of negative pressure will do the trick

hope this helps
idk why he schould buy an intake axial fan or ventilator...intake is passiv....
i think intake axial and outtake axial we not need...here is very much vakuum LMAO and all works fine! idk why he should use intake axial or ventilator to become vakkum down! he can use better for 3 euro spacers from yard stick, or bromm handle for 5 euro for the larger tent as spacers to become the tent walls back in position! no 50 or 100 euro intake axial fan or again money for a ventilator needed! PASSIV intake!
or mean you the tent pull mega hard together becoose of so much vakuum, and he schould buy another bigger axial fan for outtake, and had then 3 times more vakuum than before :confused: ???
or he schould buy a new bigger axial fan for outtake with 25% 50% 75% etc.power steps for 300- 500 euro? to run it on 25%???
very suspect 4 me !
can be the case my english is 2 bad and i not understand ! but i dont think so...
 
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Blue brother

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idk why he schould buy an intake axial fan or ventilator...intake is passiv....
i think intake axial and outtake axial we not need...here is very much vakuum LMAO and all works fine! idk why he should use intake axial or ventilator to become vakkum down! he can use better for 3 euro spacers from yard stick, or bromm handle for 5 euro for the larger tent as spacers to become the tent walls back in position! no 50 or 100 euro intake axial fan or again money for a ventilator needed! PASSIV intake!
or mean you the tent pull mega hard together becoose of so much vakuum, and he schould buy another bigger axial fan for outtake, and had then 3 times more vakuum than before :confused: ???
or he schould buy a new bigger axial fan for outtake with 25% 50% 75% etc.power steps for 300- 500 euro? to run it on 25%???
very suspect 4 me !
can be the case my english is 2 bad and i not understand ! but i dont think so...
You don't understand, both my post, and proper ventilation. I never once said he should get a fan. He needs a bigger intake, I did not say buy an axial fan.

I've no doubt this explanation will be lost in translation but seeing as you called me out, I'll school you

when you see the tent walls suck in like that it is because there is negative pressure, which means their is insufficient intake to meet the needs of the exhaust, this restricts the exhaust, of course it will, the intake becomes the limiting factor, the exhaust can only move as much air as the intake will allow though it, therefor slowing the movement of air through the tent thus making the whole system less efficient.

With a bigger INTAKE (I didn't say intake fan) you lower the restriction, more air is pulled through the intake, allowing the exhaust to move more air out of the tent. The result of this will be more efficient use of the equipment to control the environment, and it will also solve his problem of the walls sucking inward so much that he's losing valuable canopy space.
 
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