1st time grower leaves drooping

[Luckyluke44]

Hello, this is well my second time growing. Didnt have the same experience first time.

My flowers are 12 days old and leaves are drooping.
Is this normal?

im wondering, did i overwater? I dont feel like it. I only water 200-400ml every 4 days when soil feels dry to touch.

lamp was about 30cm above plants over the 12 days period.
Now i tried heightening them to 60cm

what is your thoughts?

 

[Hugo Phurst]

IMO, it's the light. (the yellowing)

 

[Luckyluke44]

IMO, it's the light. (the yellowing)

would you say light was too close at 30cm?

will problem fix itself with having the light at 60cm?

thanks for reply, very new to this and find it hard to find good information at this topic

 

[Hugo Phurst]

will problem fix itself with having the light at 60cm?

Might do the trick, or even just ambient light for a day or three.

 

[Luckyluke44]

Thanks! I will try a few days with light at the new hight

can i ask you, how much water would you give this plant every water at this stage?
One shot glass or 200-300ml?

 

[Hugo Phurst]

Thanks! I will try a few days with light at the new hight

can i ask you, how much water would you give this plant every water at this stage?
One shot glass or 200-300ml?

I just dribble water in a circle around the seedling, so I don't think I use 300ml.
If the pot isn't light I don't water.

 

[Bullmark]

Plants in the veg stage, tiny seedlings in particular, do not need intense light…..As long as U are using the correct light, that is. U haven’t mentioned your lighting specs and it could potentially save u a lot of wasted time. Occasionally someone will post here and be using some sort of “grow” lamp or light that is just not going to do the job. So I would clear that up asap.
Watering can be tricky and it’s easy to mess up. I’m a big believer in having the pot size match the plant size, this is especially important with younger seedlings. Small plants have small root systems and when they are growing in a pot that’s too large it is much easier to screw up the watering. I don’t grow autos, so I won’t speak to them, but up-planting several times during a grow, before inducing flower is a good way to mitigate the “pot being too large” problem.
Lastly, your environment (temps and humidity) is important as well. Small seedlings need a more humid environment.
Once I have a newly sprouted seedling, I want my temps to be around 80F with the humidity being at least in the 65-70% range. As they grow and gain size, I’ll even raise my temps 2-4 degrees as long as I can keep the humidity close to 70%. There’s a thing called the VPD chart that lays out the optimal temp/relative humidity(RH) for each stage of the grow.
The VPD chart is helpful, although U can obsess over it if you’re not careful. Plenty of great plants are grown that are farmed outside the “optimal” VPD range. I would use it as a general guide for the type of environment and tweek what U can, without considering it an absolute.
Without a proper light, none of the other stuff matters. Let’s make sure you’ve got the right tool for job and go from there.
Good luck and sorry to ramble.

 

[Jjgrow420]

What are your temps?

 

[Delps8]

The color of the plants tends to indicate a nutrient issue. I don't see anything that indicates that the plants are getting too much light.

When leaves are getting too much light, the will curl the edges of the leaves ("tacoing" or "canoeing") or they will rotate the leaf around the petiole toward the vertical. Both reactions are driven by the migration of auxins from the side of the leaf getting too much light to the shaded side of the leaf. They really don't have a choice - it's a chemical reaction to photons that cannot be processed by photosynthesis.

One seedling has drooping leaves. That's not a reaction to too much light. Drooping leaves is a symptom to excess watering from what I understand. As a hydro grower, I drown my roots so check with a soil grower.

The other plants have leaves that are horizontal to the ground. That's not a reaction to too much light.

Yellowing leaves indicates a nutrient imbalance. Mature leaves turn yellow as they senesce which includes the extraction of chemicals from the leaf that are migrated to other parts of the plant. In leaves that are not mature, translocation is not causing the nutrient imbalance so the trick is to determine what's causing the nutrient imbalance. It could be that the nutrients in the soil are out of whack or it could be that the transpiration rate is too high/too low so nutrient uptake is not optimal.

It would be helpful to get light make, model, hang height, and dimmer setting, soil type and composition, nutrient schedule and nutrient strength, ambient temperature, windspeed, RH, and water information (those are off the top of my head). The graphic below is a good guide.

 

[HydroKid239]

I would say the light is too close from the looks of the leaves. Definitely use at least a shot glass or two to water… and around the seedling.. not right where the stem is. Examples below.

 

[Luckyluke44]

Thanks @Delps8 and @HydroKid239
My lamps are two 50 w led full spectrum lamps.

Ive looked around for the best soil. I live in Norway and we dont have the same brands as most us people I see posting online. Our soil is mostly added a few minerals extra. Ive considered coco coir, but seems like a lot more to dive into as a “first time grower”

im using a fan as well. I have a closet grow and i put aluminium foil to the walls. Not sure what you guys think of that? You think it reflects too much maybe?

Second, I think ive overwatered them badly. Soil was also wet the day I got it.

Will let them dry out for a week.

so as im understood for next watering. When checking if it ready for watering i should stick my finger in the soil and if its dry 2-3 cm down ill water with a shot glass or two around the plant?

Thanks for good photos above, i think ive watered too much and way too soon.

so annoyed by myself now, but learning each day is a blessing aha

 

[HydroKid239]

Thanks @Delps8 and @HydroKid239
My lamps are two 50 w led full spectrum lamps.

Ive looked around for the best soil. I live in Norway and we dont have the same brands as most us people I see posting online. Our soil is mostly added a few minerals extra. Ive considered coco coir, but seems like a lot more to dive into as a “first time grower”

im using a fan as well. I have a closet grow and i put aluminium foil to the walls. Not sure what you guys think of that? You think it reflects too much maybe?

Second, I think ive overwatered them badly. Soil was also wet the day I got it.

Will let them dry out for a week.

so as im understood for next watering. When checking if it ready for watering i should stick my finger in the soil and if its dry 2-3 cm down ill water with a shot glass or two around the plant?

Thanks for good photos above, i think ive watered too much and way too soon.

so annoyed by myself now, but learning each day is a blessing aha

As the seedling grows you can use more water, but let those roots make themselves at home first. Maybe for now.. a shot glass or 2 of water should be ok. Just don’t overthink things. That’s where it gets confusing.