TRUMP CONVICTED

DIY-HP-LED

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A very important point and precedent that could screw Trump and put him back on schedule in DC. Then there is disqualification and losing a fortune in NY, all this month, what a way to start the Newyear! :lol:


FASCINATING TURN OF EVENTS in Trump's appeal

A nonprofit watchdog organizaion, American Oversight, filed an amicus brief arguing that the DC Court of Appeals does not have jurisdiction to take up Trump's immunity appeal. Instead, the lawyers argue, the immunity question should be sent back to Judge Chutkan.
 
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Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was not stolen
Ken Block, whom the Trump campaign hired in 2020 to find voter fraud in the election, penned an op-ed Tuesday stating unequivocally that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and that there was no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.

“Can a steady diet of lies and innuendo overcome the truth?” the USA Today op-ed began. “In November 2020, former President Donald Trump asserted that voter fraud had altered the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. The day after the election, his campaign hired an expert in voter data to attempt to prove Trump’s allegations and put him back in the White House.”

“I am the expert who was hired by the Trump campaign,” Block wrote.

Block, who owns Simpatico Software Systems, said his company’s findings were communicated directly to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, and transcripts of depositions taken by the Jan. 6 select committee investigating the attack on the Capitol “show that the campaign found no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of any election.”

Block’s op-ed comes as Trump continues to claim the 2020 presidential election was illegitimate while he mounts a comeback bid for the White House in 2024.

Trump’s popularity has grown in recent months — as has the share of U.S. adults who say President Biden was not legitimately elected.

As of Jan. 2, 63.1 percent of GOP primary voters favor Trump among all the GOP primary candidates for president in 2024. In second place, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has 11.4 percent support, and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has 10.1 percent support, according to Decision Desk HQ’s national polling average.

In a Washington Post/University of Maryland poll released Tuesday, 62 percent of U.S. adults say Biden was legitimately elected, down from 69 percent when an equivalent poll was conducted two years ago. Among Republicans, 31 percent say Biden was legitimately elected, down from 39 percent two years prior.

Block noted in the op-ed that claims of election fraud are not fading, despite an overwhelming amount of evidence proving otherwise.

“And yet, the cries that the election was lost or stolen due to voter fraud continue with no sign of stopping. Whether a stump speech, outrageous lawsuits like the so-called Kraken cases filed by Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani’s lies or the ongoing misguided efforts of people determined to prove the election was stolen, the constant drumbeat hardens people’s hearts and minds to the truth about the 2020 election,” he wrote.

“What these claims don’t take into account is that voter fraud is detectable, quantifiable and verifiable. I have yet to see anyone offer up ‘evidence’ of voter fraud from the 2020 election that provides these three things,” he added.

He urged people to take time to “address systemic weaknesses in our election systems — such as the distressing lack of national election infrastructure to enforce election integrity, destructive practices to our elections such as gerrymandering, and leveling the playing field so that our elections become fairer and more competitive.”

“If voter fraud had impacted the 2020 election, it would already have been proven. Maintaining the lies undermines faith in the foundation of our democracy,” Block wrote.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Voter data expert hired by Trump campaign says 2020 election was not stolen
Ken Block, whom the Trump campaign hired in 2020 to find voter fraud in the election, penned an op-ed Tuesday stating unequivocally that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and that there was no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election.

“Can a steady diet of lies and innuendo overcome the truth?” the USA Today op-ed began. “In November 2020, former President Donald Trump asserted that voter fraud had altered the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. The day after the election, his campaign hired an expert in voter data to attempt to prove Trump’s allegations and put him back in the White House.”

“I am the expert who was hired by the Trump campaign,” Block wrote.

Block, who owns Simpatico Software Systems, said his company’s findings were communicated directly to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, and transcripts of depositions taken by the Jan. 6 select committee investigating the attack on the Capitol “show that the campaign found no evidence of voter fraud sufficient to change the outcome of any election.”

Block’s op-ed comes as Trump continues to claim the 2020 presidential election was illegitimate while he mounts a comeback bid for the White House in 2024.

Trump’s popularity has grown in recent months — as has the share of U.S. adults who say President Biden was not legitimately elected.

As of Jan. 2, 63.1 percent of GOP primary voters favor Trump among all the GOP primary candidates for president in 2024. In second place, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley has 11.4 percent support, and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has 10.1 percent support, according to Decision Desk HQ’s national polling average.

In a Washington Post/University of Maryland poll released Tuesday, 62 percent of U.S. adults say Biden was legitimately elected, down from 69 percent when an equivalent poll was conducted two years ago. Among Republicans, 31 percent say Biden was legitimately elected, down from 39 percent two years prior.

Block noted in the op-ed that claims of election fraud are not fading, despite an overwhelming amount of evidence proving otherwise.

“And yet, the cries that the election was lost or stolen due to voter fraud continue with no sign of stopping. Whether a stump speech, outrageous lawsuits like the so-called Kraken cases filed by Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani’s lies or the ongoing misguided efforts of people determined to prove the election was stolen, the constant drumbeat hardens people’s hearts and minds to the truth about the 2020 election,” he wrote.

“What these claims don’t take into account is that voter fraud is detectable, quantifiable and verifiable. I have yet to see anyone offer up ‘evidence’ of voter fraud from the 2020 election that provides these three things,” he added.

He urged people to take time to “address systemic weaknesses in our election systems — such as the distressing lack of national election infrastructure to enforce election integrity, destructive practices to our elections such as gerrymandering, and leveling the playing field so that our elections become fairer and more competitive.”

“If voter fraud had impacted the 2020 election, it would already have been proven. Maintaining the lies undermines faith in the foundation of our democracy,” Block wrote.
How many ways and times does it need to be proved that Trump is a lying dirtbag since facts don't matter much to his base. I guess a conviction will nibble at the edges of his support and mostly affect independents who tend to lean right. Disqualify him, he would say he was cheated anyway if he ran, even if he won, the election was rigged or the courts, might as well go with the courts. If he is disqualified, he will run as write in candidate and attack the GOP and their nominee until jailed because the RINOs caved in and stole the primary from him etc, blah, blah.
 

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Trump Files OFFENSIVE Reply to Appeals Court MOCKING the Constitution

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on the reply brief Donald Trump filed with the DC Circuit Court of Appeals on the appeal on the issue of absolute presidential immunity.
 

Fogdog

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An up to date rundown on the status of all of Trump's court cases. It starts with a discussion of Trump's motions to toss all federal charges because he's claiming absolute immunity as president.


Toward the end, Neal Katyal is pressed for his opinion about the likelihood of the SCOTUS deciding that Trump cannot be on the ballot. His opinion is "it depends". If the case is presented according to the conservative justice's bias toward originalism and appeals them to follow a strict reading according to the words and intend of the people who wrote it, Neal feels it is a winning argument and Trump will be disqualified.

Two edged sword. Originalists argue that under the Constitution, democracy does not have the kinds of protections and voters are not entitled to access that later laws and rulings provide. So, yeah, democracy can be saved from Trump but in the long run, right wing anti-democratic forces will also use the same argument to deprive us from the democracy we feel we are entitled to.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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An up to date rundown on the status of all of Trump's court cases. It starts with a discussion of Trump's motions to toss all federal charges because he's claiming absolute immunity as president.


Toward the end, Neal Katyal is pressed for his opinion about the likelihood of the SCOTUS deciding that Trump cannot be on the ballot. His opinion is "it depends". If the case is presented according to the conservative justice's bias toward originalism and appeals them to follow a strict reading according to the words and intend of the people who wrote it, Neal feels it is a winning argument and Trump will be disqualified.

Two edged sword. Originalists argue that under the Constitution, democracy does not have the kinds of protections and voters are not entitled to access that later laws and rulings provide. So, yeah, democracy can be saved from Trump but in the long run, right wing anti-democratic forces will also use the same argument to deprive us from the democracy we feel we are entitled to.
If Trump is disqualified, some red states will try to do the same with Biden, the SCOTUS must set national standards and establish rules. The 14th is just as valid as the 2nd or the first and the intentions of the framers were clear from historic documentation and there was more of that preserved after the civil war than during the founding. The great thing about all these cases including NY and the revelation of Trump's finances is we should not have to wait long for a resolution. If he loses the appeal and stay on immunity, then Chutkan has his ass, on schedule or close.
 
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