ok ok ok, I has a Seedling!!!!!

greenmobster440

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Oh and yeah, I would stop misting and just go with watering the medium fully as needed. She doesn't need all that moisture now. Heading into the seedling stage. This thing may be flowering in 10-15 days. I have a few that started at day 22.
 

natureboygrower

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View attachment 5355112 Because as you see there will be plenty to try and sway, criticize, critique, or push what they do.
Huh? Who's done that? I've seen nothing but thoughtful advice from experienced growers on this site. And there's been a lot of advice given lately with new states going legal...
Nobody is "pushing " what they do, but they are letting you in on some valuable knowledge that probably took years to learn. Use that to your advantage , instead of thinking everyone is out to sell something. Riu isnt youtube and has some of the best growers on the net imo
Relax dude and stay awhile.
 

ec121

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I picked Vermuclite because it adds Silica to the soil without needing a seperate bottle for it.
Yeah, bro, that's why you shouldn't have tweaked Bug's recipe because that boyo feeds every day. I'd imagine that once the root development is more mature, you could do the same in that heavy vermiculite mix or just continue to feed when dry. It's just that when you treat soilless like soil, you're going to get soil like growth. No big deal though, and I get that you did it so you would need to water less often.

As for feeding, yeah, the seed has enough energy to sustain itself for a week or so, but my final coco prep step is to run 0.4 EC through it a day or two before planting and once it's above land for 24 hours, that bitch is getting ~0.4 EC for a week and then ~1.0 EC starting on week two.

I'm also a silicon convert. Having grown fine without, there is definitely a very noticeable difference growing with it.

As for Bugbee, that dude was growing weed for the same reasons we all do before he got his degrees. In my opinion I haven't seen him say anything that would suggest he's compromised and he got into making sensors in his garage because he's a horticultural scientist that was looking for the best tools for his work so he made them.
 

IndooorGardnerOhio

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LOL exactly what I was just saying. He appeared to be more into the sensor side of things.
His Actual PhD is in Crop Physiology and He is the Director of the Crop Physiology Laboratory at Utah State University. He has also worked with NASA in his research on regenerative systems and the effects of microgravity on plants. I would say, Especially since he has done a TON of Research On Medical Hemp Since the 2018 farm bill passed, that he knows what he is talking about. His company came well after his degrees that apply to plants.
 

IndooorGardnerOhio

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Yeah, bro, that's why you shouldn't have tweaked Bug's recipe because that boyo feeds every day. I'd imagine that once the root development is more mature, you could do the same in that heavy vermiculite mix or just continue to feed when dry. It's just that when you treat soilless like soil, you're going to get soil like growth. No big deal though, and I get that you did it so you would need to water less often.

As for feeding, yeah, the seed has enough energy to sustain itself for a week or so, but my final coco prep step is to run 0.4 EC through it a day or two before planting and once it's above land for 24 hours, that bitch is getting ~0.4 EC for a week and then ~1.0 EC starting on week two.

I'm also a silicon convert. Having grown fine without, there is definitely a very noticeable difference growing with it.

As for Bugbee, that dude was growing weed for the same reasons we all do before he got his degrees. In my opinion I haven't seen him say anything that would suggest he's compromised and he got into making sensors in his garage because he's a horticultural scientist that was looking for the best tools for his work so he made them.
Yep I learned the advantages of Silcia with Tomatoes that ended up about 6 ft tall and yielded 30 to 50lbs per plant. Dr.Bugbee's actual PhD is in Crop Physiology and he has been researching Medical Hemp since the 2018 farm bill passed, I trust his chops.
 

curious2garden

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His Actual PhD is in Crop Physiology and He is the Director of the Crop Physiology Laboratory at Utah State University. He has also worked with NASA in his research on regenerative systems and the effects of microgravity on plants. I would say, Especially since he has done a TON of Research On Medical Hemp Since the 2018 farm bill passed, that he knows what he is talking about. His company came well after his degrees that apply to plants.
LOL just as Wilder Penfield could do neurosurgery I know Bugbee can grow, especially something as easy as Cannabis. What I'm saying is his focus is sensors just as Wilder Penfield's was research and development although every single neurosurgeon carried Penfield's dissectors, few used his surgical approaches. They were dated and laborious but his tools were sublime. You're in a similar situation with Bugbee. I'm simply saying his precise lane of expertise is more sensors than growth, as you recognized when you tweaked his base substrate. That's all. Cannabis is a resilient plant and will do quite well in a myriad of substrates and cultivation techniques.
 

IndooorGardnerOhio

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Lol I think what you're hearing is vermiculite isn't a popular ingredient. Your first grow could be in a pile of rocks, as long as you learn something and apply it forward (and I'm sure you will).
yep im gathering that lol. I have been using it for years with tomatoes and Peppers, and its never let me down. But I do see it isnt a popular choice, and I for sure am taking notes and learning from this!
 

Fangthane

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Fabric pots allow a lot of air to contact the outer edges of the medium, keeping roots from growing all the way out to the fabric - aka 'air pruning'. Not sure they do much for the oxygen content within the root ball.
 

MtRainDog

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yep im gathering that lol. I have been using it for years with tomatoes and Peppers, and its never let me down. But I do see it isnt a popular choice, and I for sure am taking notes and learning from this!
I think you’ll find that what works for peppers, tomatoes or any other plant won’t necessarily translate to growing cannabis. Moreover you’ll find what works for one cannabis plant might not work for another. It’s easy to fall into the trap of one size fits all when it comes to watering, feeding, and even drying and curing. Every plant is different, just something to keep in mind.
 

curious2garden

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yep im gathering that lol. I have been using it for years with tomatoes and Peppers, and its never let me down. But I do see it isnt a popular choice, and I for sure am taking notes and learning from this!
Having the majority of your growing experience with vermiculite and years of success with tomatoes, which are what I'd consider an analog to cannabis cultivation, it makes sense you'd choose that. I think it was a good choice for you. We all learn the environmental and personal parameters that provide the most success and enjoyment for us in this pursuit. However you do it just enjoy the journey.
 

IndooorGardnerOhio

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I think you’ll find that what works for peppers, tomatoes or any other plant won’t necessarily translate to growing cannabis. Moreover you’ll find what works for one cannabis plant might not work for another. It’s easy to fall into the trap of one size fits all when it comes to watering, feeding, and even drying and curing. Every plant is different, just something to keep in mind.
True, totally agree, but there are some basics that do apply to any plant, its just fine tuning them to the new plant.
 

IndooorGardnerOhio

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Having the majority of your growing experience with vermiculite and years of success with tomatoes, which are what I'd consider an analog to cannabis cultivation, it makes sense you'd choose that. I think it was a good choice for you. We all learn the environmental and personal parameters that provide the most success and enjoyment for us in this pursuit. However you do it just enjoy the journey.
yep, stick with what you know and figure out a way to make it work lol
 
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