TRUMP CONVICTED

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A binder full of Russian intelligence went missing during Trump's final days in office. His allies are looking for it, too.
A binder full of intelligence about Russia's interference in the 2016 election vanished during Trump's final days in office, CNN reported on Friday, citing more than a dozen anonymous sources. A representative for Trump didn't immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment about the CNN report.

The report was later confirmed by the New York Times, who cited "two people familiar with the matter."

That binder apparently had a lot of information. A court filing from Trump-friendly journalist John Solomon said the binder was "about 2,700 pages and was approximately ten inches thick." The New York Times reported that the "substance" of the intelligence wasn't considered too sensitive, but the raw materials contained in the binder could be used to "reveal secret sources and methods."

Some of the material inside the binder was so classified, the binder was kept at CIA headquarters in Virginia, CNN reported, and analysis of the intel was kept in a locked safe. That is, until Trump was leaving office.

On January 19, 2021 — two days before his presidency ended — Trump declassified portions of the binder as part of a flurry of last-minute declassifications and pardons for his allies. The binder has since gone missing. This binder isn't referenced in special counsel Jack Smith's sprawling indictment against Trump that accuses him of taking classified intel to Mar-A-Lago and trying to keep the government from getting it back.

Trump's own allies are searching for the binder since they want to make it public, thinking it'll exonerate Trump and help defend his criminal cases, CNN reported. In his court filing, Solomon writes that he went to the White House in those final hours of Trump's presidency to review the intelligence and plan how to release it with then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. The White House even gave Solomon the records "in a paper bag" to scan and prepare to release them on his website, according to the court document. But that night, Solomon said in the filing, the administration asked for the documents back, so he returned them to the White House.

They've been missing since then, CNN reported. Months later, Trump named Solomon as one of his representatives to the National Archives. Solomon has since been waging a battle in the courts to get the documents, arguing that the Department of Justice has them.
 

Herb & Suds

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A binder full of Russian intelligence went missing during Trump's final days in office. His allies are looking for it, too.
A binder full of intelligence about Russia's interference in the 2016 election vanished during Trump's final days in office, CNN reported on Friday, citing more than a dozen anonymous sources. A representative for Trump didn't immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment about the CNN report.

The report was later confirmed by the New York Times, who cited "two people familiar with the matter."

That binder apparently had a lot of information. A court filing from Trump-friendly journalist John Solomon said the binder was "about 2,700 pages and was approximately ten inches thick." The New York Times reported that the "substance" of the intelligence wasn't considered too sensitive, but the raw materials contained in the binder could be used to "reveal secret sources and methods."

Some of the material inside the binder was so classified, the binder was kept at CIA headquarters in Virginia, CNN reported, and analysis of the intel was kept in a locked safe. That is, until Trump was leaving office.

On January 19, 2021 — two days before his presidency ended — Trump declassified portions of the binder as part of a flurry of last-minute declassifications and pardons for his allies. The binder has since gone missing. This binder isn't referenced in special counsel Jack Smith's sprawling indictment against Trump that accuses him of taking classified intel to Mar-A-Lago and trying to keep the government from getting it back.

Trump's own allies are searching for the binder since they want to make it public, thinking it'll exonerate Trump and help defend his criminal cases, CNN reported. In his court filing, Solomon writes that he went to the White House in those final hours of Trump's presidency to review the intelligence and plan how to release it with then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. The White House even gave Solomon the records "in a paper bag" to scan and prepare to release them on his website, according to the court document. But that night, Solomon said in the filing, the administration asked for the documents back, so he returned them to the White House.

They've been missing since then, CNN reported. Months later, Trump named Solomon as one of his representatives to the National Archives. Solomon has since been waging a battle in the courts to get the documents, arguing that the Department of Justice has them.
Time to dig up a grave
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
A binder full of Russian intelligence went missing during Trump's final days in office. His allies are looking for it, too.
A binder full of intelligence about Russia's interference in the 2016 election vanished during Trump's final days in office, CNN reported on Friday, citing more than a dozen anonymous sources. A representative for Trump didn't immediately respond to Business Insider's request for comment about the CNN report.

The report was later confirmed by the New York Times, who cited "two people familiar with the matter."

That binder apparently had a lot of information. A court filing from Trump-friendly journalist John Solomon said the binder was "about 2,700 pages and was approximately ten inches thick." The New York Times reported that the "substance" of the intelligence wasn't considered too sensitive, but the raw materials contained in the binder could be used to "reveal secret sources and methods."

Some of the material inside the binder was so classified, the binder was kept at CIA headquarters in Virginia, CNN reported, and analysis of the intel was kept in a locked safe. That is, until Trump was leaving office.

On January 19, 2021 — two days before his presidency ended — Trump declassified portions of the binder as part of a flurry of last-minute declassifications and pardons for his allies. The binder has since gone missing. This binder isn't referenced in special counsel Jack Smith's sprawling indictment against Trump that accuses him of taking classified intel to Mar-A-Lago and trying to keep the government from getting it back.

Trump's own allies are searching for the binder since they want to make it public, thinking it'll exonerate Trump and help defend his criminal cases, CNN reported. In his court filing, Solomon writes that he went to the White House in those final hours of Trump's presidency to review the intelligence and plan how to release it with then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. The White House even gave Solomon the records "in a paper bag" to scan and prepare to release them on his website, according to the court document. But that night, Solomon said in the filing, the administration asked for the documents back, so he returned them to the White House.

They've been missing since then, CNN reported. Months later, Trump named Solomon as one of his representatives to the National Archives. Solomon has since been waging a battle in the courts to get the documents, arguing that the Department of Justice has them.
Perhaps our procedure for tracking classified andor sensitive documents needs to come under review.
 

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Oh my. Who is sounding like a snowflake? Un-American?

Trump lawyer blasts Jack Smith’s urgency for ruling in immunity case: ‘It’s un-American’
Alina Habba, a lawyer for former President Trump, blasted Special Counsel Jack Smith for his urgency in asking the Supreme Court to take up Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case and weigh in on his immunity defense.

“There is some sort of real sense of urgency,” said in an interview highlighted by Mediaite. “The only urgency that I can see is that there is an election in November 2024 and they can’t beat him.”

Trump has attempted to toss the case by arguing that he has presidential immunity from the indictment that accuses him of entering criminal conspiracies to change the 2020 presidential election results.

Smith has argued that the nation’s highest court should take up the issue before the D.C. Circuit issues its ruling, citing Trump’s fast-approaching March 4 trial date.

The Supreme Court agreed to expedite Trump’s deadline, ordering him to respond by Dec. 20. They will then decide if they are going to take the case.

Habba said “everyone can see” what Smith is doing and said it “is election interference at its finest.” “They can’t beat him in the ballots so they’re gonna have to either, you know, lie, cheat, steal or the newest, is lawfare, put him in jail, tie him up,” she told Fox Business Network’s Larry Kudlow.

Kudlow suggested that since Trump would have to sit in trial every day for the case, they don’t want him on the campaign trail.

Habba agreed and said, “it’s actually playing against them.” “He’s getting a lot of voters that he normally wouldn’t get because they’re seeing this and he is the victim of all of a sudden they’ve made him a victim of complete and utter election interference and lawfare,” she said.

Habba said she has faith in the Supreme Court because they “really take their office seriously and we’ve seen that time and time again with that, especially recently.”
 

cannabineer

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Oh my. Who is sounding like a snowflake? Un-American?

Trump lawyer blasts Jack Smith’s urgency for ruling in immunity case: ‘It’s un-American’
Alina Habba, a lawyer for former President Trump, blasted Special Counsel Jack Smith for his urgency in asking the Supreme Court to take up Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case and weigh in on his immunity defense.

“There is some sort of real sense of urgency,” said in an interview highlighted by Mediaite. “The only urgency that I can see is that there is an election in November 2024 and they can’t beat him.”

Trump has attempted to toss the case by arguing that he has presidential immunity from the indictment that accuses him of entering criminal conspiracies to change the 2020 presidential election results.

Smith has argued that the nation’s highest court should take up the issue before the D.C. Circuit issues its ruling, citing Trump’s fast-approaching March 4 trial date.

The Supreme Court agreed to expedite Trump’s deadline, ordering him to respond by Dec. 20. They will then decide if they are going to take the case.

Habba said “everyone can see” what Smith is doing and said it “is election interference at its finest.” “They can’t beat him in the ballots so they’re gonna have to either, you know, lie, cheat, steal or the newest, is lawfare, put him in jail, tie him up,” she told Fox Business Network’s Larry Kudlow.

Kudlow suggested that since Trump would have to sit in trial every day for the case, they don’t want him on the campaign trail.

Habba agreed and said, “it’s actually playing against them.” “He’s getting a lot of voters that he normally wouldn’t get because they’re seeing this and he is the victim of all of a sudden they’ve made him a victim of complete and utter election interference and lawfare,” she said.

Habba said she has faith in the Supreme Court because they “really take their office seriously and we’ve seen that time and time again with that, especially recently.”
https://thehill.com/regulationr/court-battles/4364070-trump-lawyer-blasts-jack-smiths-urgency-for-ruling-immunity-case/
Habba-dabba-do-me is four fries short of a HappyMeal™️.
 

CCGNZ

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Perhaps our procedure for tracking classified andor sensitive documents needs to come under review.
Not until recently,not sure the thought of a Pres. handling top secret,highly classified documents like Xmas cards was ever contemplated. Don't think such a off the charts,irresponsible occupant of the Oval office was even considered in the realm of possiblity prior to 2016.Might as well load a confetti cannon w/our nations top secret documents and fire it on the grounds of Russia's embassy in Washington.
 

topcat

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Oh my. Who is sounding like a snowflake? Un-American?

Trump lawyer blasts Jack Smith’s urgency for ruling in immunity case: ‘It’s un-American’
Alina Habba, a lawyer for former President Trump, blasted Special Counsel Jack Smith for his urgency in asking the Supreme Court to take up Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case and weigh in on his immunity defense.

“There is some sort of real sense of urgency,” said in an interview highlighted by Mediaite. “The only urgency that I can see is that there is an election in November 2024 and they can’t beat him.”

Trump has attempted to toss the case by arguing that he has presidential immunity from the indictment that accuses him of entering criminal conspiracies to change the 2020 presidential election results.

Smith has argued that the nation’s highest court should take up the issue before the D.C. Circuit issues its ruling, citing Trump’s fast-approaching March 4 trial date.

The Supreme Court agreed to expedite Trump’s deadline, ordering him to respond by Dec. 20. They will then decide if they are going to take the case.

Habba said “everyone can see” what Smith is doing and said it “is election interference at its finest.” “They can’t beat him in the ballots so they’re gonna have to either, you know, lie, cheat, steal or the newest, is lawfare, put him in jail, tie him up,” she told Fox Business Network’s Larry Kudlow.

Kudlow suggested that since Trump would have to sit in trial every day for the case, they don’t want him on the campaign trail.

Habba agreed and said, “it’s actually playing against them.” “He’s getting a lot of voters that he normally wouldn’t get because they’re seeing this and he is the victim of all of a sudden they’ve made him a victim of complete and utter election interference and lawfare,” she said.

Habba said she has faith in the Supreme Court because they “really take their office seriously and we’ve seen that time and time again with that, especially recently.”
I think she got her law degree from Kmart. It was a closeout sale.
 

CCGNZ

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Jim Jordan is resembling a FKN weasel the more I see snips of his complete BS,Jim will you please juxtapose your seemingly photographic memory when reciting your power point presentation of fake points to take down the current Pres. w/your fumblin,bumblin,stumblin attempt to explain when and how many times you talked to the provocateur in chief during the disgrace of Jan.6.. What a transparent lying shithead, is that the same stuttering that occurred when you were questioned about sexual abuse in the Ohio State wrestling program,ah,duh,duh,duh. From a champion NCAA wrestler to a vile pol. who spews so much shit he should own stock in Charmin,follow Rudy off the cliff,Jimmy
 

Fogdog

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Oh my. Who is sounding like a snowflake? Un-American?

Trump lawyer blasts Jack Smith’s urgency for ruling in immunity case: ‘It’s un-American’
Alina Habba, a lawyer for former President Trump, blasted Special Counsel Jack Smith for his urgency in asking the Supreme Court to take up Trump’s federal 2020 election criminal case and weigh in on his immunity defense.

“There is some sort of real sense of urgency,” said in an interview highlighted by Mediaite. “The only urgency that I can see is that there is an election in November 2024 and they can’t beat him.”

Trump has attempted to toss the case by arguing that he has presidential immunity from the indictment that accuses him of entering criminal conspiracies to change the 2020 presidential election results.

Smith has argued that the nation’s highest court should take up the issue before the D.C. Circuit issues its ruling, citing Trump’s fast-approaching March 4 trial date.

The Supreme Court agreed to expedite Trump’s deadline, ordering him to respond by Dec. 20. They will then decide if they are going to take the case.

Habba said “everyone can see” what Smith is doing and said it “is election interference at its finest.” “They can’t beat him in the ballots so they’re gonna have to either, you know, lie, cheat, steal or the newest, is lawfare, put him in jail, tie him up,” she told Fox Business Network’s Larry Kudlow.

Kudlow suggested that since Trump would have to sit in trial every day for the case, they don’t want him on the campaign trail.

Habba agreed and said, “it’s actually playing against them.” “He’s getting a lot of voters that he normally wouldn’t get because they’re seeing this and he is the victim of all of a sudden they’ve made him a victim of complete and utter election interference and lawfare,” she said.

Habba said she has faith in the Supreme Court because they “really take their office seriously and we’ve seen that time and time again with that, especially recently.”
The only reason this trial is taking place this long after Congress was attacked is because Trump delayed everything for as long as he could. If I were an innocent person I'd want to have my innocence declared as soon as possible. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
 

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The only reason this trial is taking place this long after Congress was attacked is because Trump delayed everything for as long as he could. If I were an innocent person I'd want to have my innocence declared as soon as possible. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Nah, she is just misrepresenting things to keep the maga crowd think it is the left that is against Trump rather than he broke the law.
 

cannabineer

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More polls-as-news


Why a Trump conviction might not save Biden’s reelection
Pollsters have already started to explore what effect, if any, a criminal conviction before the election would have on Trump’s support.

It’s the go-to refrain for Democrats watching Joe Biden fall behind Donald Trump in polls: Just wait until Trump is convicted.

Yes, Biden’s historically unpopular. Yes, views of his job performance are growing increasingly negative. But if a jury of Trump’s peers in Manhattan, or South Florida, or Atlanta or Washington convicts him before Election Day, they say, it would have a dramatic impact on the race.

They’re probably wrong.
The evidence so far suggests the race might shift only slightly, by a few points. That could be important in another close election, but it’s not the kind of Trump collapse that Democrats may hope for — or Biden may need if his numbers don’t improve.
Trump’s legal peril is unprecedented, and the sentiment that a criminal conviction could be a mortal wound to his candidacy is mostly driven by political intuition right now. But we’re starting to get more data on how a conviction would affect Trump’s chances to defeat Biden, thanks to pollsters who’ve asked voters what they would do if a jury found Trump guilty.

Take last week’s Wall Street Journal poll. Trump led Biden by 4 percentage points in a head-to-head matchup, 47 percent to 43 percent. The race shifted only slightly, to a 1-point Biden lead, among respondents who were also asked what they would do if Trump were convicted in either of the two federal cases, either for unlawfully possessing classified documents or conspiring to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

Since only about half of the respondents were asked about a hypothetical Trump conviction, the two results aren’t directly comparable. But they suggest a massive swing against Trump is unlikely. And the margins are small: With just a 1-point lead in a hypothetical Trump conviction scenario, Democrats can’t rely on a small post-conviction swing tipping the race.
And that’s if he’s even convicted before the election. Though Trump’s 2024 calendar is littered with planned trial dates up and down the Eastern Seaboard, there’s no guarantee that those cases won’t be pushed until after Election Day.
The 2024 tea-leaf reading wouldn’t be the first time that Trump’s controversies have led critics to prematurely bury his electoral prospects, whether it was the October 2016 revelation of the “Access Hollywood” tape or predictions that the GOP would move on from the then-president in the wake of his 2020 defeat and the Jan. 6, 2021 riot at the Capitol.
Of course, Trump’s poll numbers did drop — temporarily — following those events. But he recovered in time to defeat Hillary Clinton less than a month after the “Access Hollywood” tape became public and, earlier this year, to become the prohibitive Republican favorite for the nomination.

A criminal conviction might have a similar effect.

Last month’s New York Times/Siena College poll asked likely voters in six Biden-won swing states who said they weren’t supporting him — a collection of Trump voters and those who said they were undecided — what they would do if Trump “were convicted and sentenced to prison but were still the Republican nominee.”

Most of them would still vote for Trump, but 5 percent of the likely electorate across those swing states said they would vote for Biden under that circumstance. That’s potentially enough to tilt the race to the Democratic incumbent — but it’s not guaranteed, especially with Biden already trailing.

Most of that 5-point shift came from voters who were undecided or preferred another candidate in the initial Biden-Trump contest. The New York Times/Siena crosstabs also suggest young voters and independents who hadn’t picked Biden before were slightly more likely to say they would vote for him if Trump were convicted.

Other polls have similarly found that movement away from Trump in the event of a criminal conviction could provide a much-needed boost to Biden — but only a modest one. Half of respondents in a Vanderbilt University poll in Tennessee this month were asked to consider a straight matchup between Biden, Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.; Trump led by 19 points.

But the other half were asked for whom they would vote if Trump “had been convicted of one or more felonies by a jury.” In that matchup, Trump’s lead contracted to 13 points, though most of the defections went to Kennedy and an unnamed “other” candidate.
Even polls conducted by self-interested parties show a Trump conviction having only a minor effect on the election. WPA Intelligence, the GOP polling firm working for the pro-Ron DeSantis super PAC Never Back Down, released a poll in September that found Biden ahead of Trump by 2 points on the initial ballot.
The firm has been unsparing in its portrayal of Trump as an electoral albatross on the party. But even its poll found only a small shift toward Biden, who went from ahead by 2 points to up by 6 points if Trump were convicted.
There are a few polls that suggest a Trump conviction could be more significant, but they mostly gloss over the polarization of the electorate. In a Reuters/Ipsos poll this month, 64 percent of Americans said they would at least somewhat agree with the statement that Trump “should not run for president” if he’s convicted of a crime. But saying he shouldn’t run is a far cry from saying they wouldn’t vote for him with only a limited number of choices on the ballot.

My colleagues at POLITICO Magazine commissioned their own polling with Ipsos back in August. Roughly a third of respondents, 32 percent, said a conviction would make them less likely to vote for Trump — far from unanimity.

In the days after Trump’s first indictment in the New York hush-money case, an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College pollasked Americans whether they want Trump to be president again — and those who said they did were asked whether they still felt that way if Trump were to be convicted of a crime. Just 34 percent of Americans said they wanted Trump as president, but it dropped only slightly, to 27 percent, if he were convicted.

Most Americans already don’t want Trump — or Biden, for that matter — to run, despite the overwhelming likelihood they will be the nominees. If 2024 is a 2020 rematch, it will be a contest between two candidates the country doesn’t particularly want. And voters appear to be pricing in Trump’s legal woes already.
 

CCGNZ

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The only reason this trial is taking place this long after Congress was attacked is because Trump delayed everything for as long as he could. If I were an innocent person I'd want to have my innocence declared as soon as possible. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Guess that's what happens when the guy thinks this is all a continuation of his"reality show",DRAMA,DRAMA,DRAMA,coupled w/the enduring influence of the Roy Cohn tenets of lying until it is accepted,delaying,and turning all involved into defendants.
 
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