BudmanTX
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me too....and i think he already knew what kind of antics that the defense was gonna do prior....so in a way he was ready
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BudmanTX
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well that was interesting to say the least......it was a pretty much of a who's who of "i cannot recolect" and the shrug "i dunno". There were few accounts where i think she threw Jared under the bus, cause from what i understand he was the one who introduced the Trumps to Dusche Bank aka the launder hotel.....
I enjoy hearing NYkers yelling out "fraud family" before she walked in the court room......
I enjoy hearing NYkers yelling out "fraud family" before she walked in the court room......
DIY-HP-LED
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His trial in DC begins on March 4th and he has to attend, he doesn't have to attend his civil trial in NY and never did for the first one over this matter. His disqualification trials in several states are or soon will be happening too and I expect we should hear something on that front soon.
BudmanTX
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It's really not a good idea to attack the judge Kise.....sheesh
"Chris Kise accuses the judge of using "two sets of standards." Solomon counters that it's "night-and-day different" because the state used Ivanka Trump's communications with the GSA, not the agency's internal filings. "
"Engoron to Kise: "Your constant insinuations that I have different set of standards. It's just not true. [...] You can keep saying it if it makes you happy, that I'm favoring one side over the other. [...] I don't count them. I just make the rulings as I see them." "
Engoron to Trump's attorney, after hearing a read-back of what he just asked Ivanka Trump: "That's a ridiculous question."
Suarez snaps at the NYAG's lawyers, indignantly telling the judge in a speech that they're laughing at the state's table. "They're trying to destroy thousands of job in this state." The AG's counsel moves to strike the speech. Suarez: "They're striking. They're laughing."
yeah i would be laughing too.......
Seems little miss "i dunno" or "i can't recall" is slightly moving herself away from the Trumps circle, problem is imo she's was all in it...from the DC hotel to the Golf course......heck just for the sale of the DC hotel she made 4 mil......but this was the kicker....
"Financial statements provided by Mr. Trump were qualified by his accountants as not complying with GAAP."
"Chris Kise accuses the judge of using "two sets of standards." Solomon counters that it's "night-and-day different" because the state used Ivanka Trump's communications with the GSA, not the agency's internal filings. "
"Engoron to Kise: "Your constant insinuations that I have different set of standards. It's just not true. [...] You can keep saying it if it makes you happy, that I'm favoring one side over the other. [...] I don't count them. I just make the rulings as I see them." "
Engoron to Trump's attorney, after hearing a read-back of what he just asked Ivanka Trump: "That's a ridiculous question."
Suarez snaps at the NYAG's lawyers, indignantly telling the judge in a speech that they're laughing at the state's table. "They're trying to destroy thousands of job in this state." The AG's counsel moves to strike the speech. Suarez: "They're striking. They're laughing."
yeah i would be laughing too.......
Seems little miss "i dunno" or "i can't recall" is slightly moving herself away from the Trumps circle, problem is imo she's was all in it...from the DC hotel to the Golf course......heck just for the sale of the DC hotel she made 4 mil......but this was the kicker....
"Financial statements provided by Mr. Trump were qualified by his accountants as not complying with GAAP."
DIY-HP-LED
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When it comes to his DC trial, if this is his defense strategy, then Trump and his lawyers will end up in jail before the trial is over, appeal from your fucking cell! A lot depends on his disqualification trial IMO, if he is disqualified his treatment by judges will change, except for Canon I imagine. She is a side show now and when Donald does appear for trial over that case, he will be a federal convict in custody, perhaps disqualified and broke too.
BudmanTX
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think they're still trying to figure out they're strategy for DC, the DC judge has ruled it either today or tomorrow to show one, meanwhile she's already looking for juriors there right now.....you do realize the disqual trail is just for one state right, if they win, the state will not put him on the ballot while other will.....Minnsota has already stop they're diqual trial i read, the judge there already shot it down but they do have another chance at it. The NY case is really kinda comical, the defence is trying to rile up the judge there so that they can go the the apeals judge and cry....NY Judge isn't buying it at all. Now the orange bafoon has another chance in NY cause the defense can call him back up for another shit show......
meanwhile just sit back and grab the
BudmanTX
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DIY-HP-LED
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Trouble for the GOP then and America too I should think, looks like it might be disqualification in the general election if the republicans nominate him. If political parties are private institutions how come the state runs their primary elections for them? A party nominee is not an office holder, as I observed before, so that is the argument as I see it. The general election is for political office however and that is where the without prejudice part comes into play. It looks like Donald might not be locked up and will continue making a mockery of equality under the law. He will also be fucking over the GOP on his way down in court and will be like a bull in the China shop during their primaries.
Either way they lose.
DIY-HP-LED
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If Trump can appeal to the SCOTUS, so can the plaintiffs, but maybe the Colorado would be a better one to try at the SCOTUS, Trump will be on the primary ballot nationally or not at all. If he is disqualified before the general election, he will be in prison already convicted over J6 state and federally. If he is not disqualified from the primaries, he will likely win the GOP nomination and be Joe's dream come true. Disqualified before the general election by the SCOTUS with the republicans left high and dry on the eve of the election with Trump in prison and disqualified.
If they don't disqualify Trump from the primaries that is the way I see it possibly play out, a party nominee is not a political office covered by the 14th, but the general election office is. If they do this it will destroy the GOP, millions of their voters vote for Trump just to stick it in the eye of the "establishment" that they blame for their own failures in life, without Trump in the race they might stay home. The millions of new Trump voters who appeared between 2016 and 2020 might just stay home, Trump was the only thing that excited them enough to vote.
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Mary Trump on her uncle: 'He is an entitled loser who did nothing but waste his father's fortune'
Mary Trump the founder and chair of the Democracy Defense Fund Sue Craig who was in the courtroom for Ivanka's testimony join Nicolle Wallace to discuss the Trump families antics as they took the stand in the New York Attorney General’s civil fraud case.
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Trump dismisses risks, asks appeals court to toss gag order
Former President Trump diminished the risks of his attacks on those involved in his federal election interference case, complaining he has been hit with a gag order based on “speculation” about what his followers might do.
The comment came in Trump’s first brief as he appeals a gag order issued by Judge Tanya Chutkan that bars him from making statements that would “target” foreseeable witnesses, prosecutors or court personnel involved in the case.
The filing, which comes after several rounds of earlier briefs on the gag order, largely repeats Trump’s arguments that they are a violation of his First Amendment rights, contending they are especially important to the candidate for office.
But they also dismiss Chutkan’s decision as “speculation that President Trump’s audiences might react to his speech with ‘harassment’ or ‘threats’ to prosecutors, witnesses, or court staff.”
“President Trump has made many public statements about this case in the three months since his indictment, and yet the Department of Justice … submitted no evidence of any ‘threats’ or ‘harassment’ to prosecutors, witnesses, or court staff during that time,” his attorneys wrote.
An initial September motion for the gag order mentioned numerous instances in which Trump’s prior comments about the election had spurred threats against his targets, including against two Georgia election workers later forced to leave their homes for their safety as well as a Pennsylvania election official who later received death threats against himself and his family.
In the filing, Trump points to a moment in a hearing over the gag order in which prosecutors said the risks in this case were speculative.
But in later filings, prosecutors accused Trump of making improper statements, including one directed at his former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, saying it violated prohibition on contacting or threatening witnesses.
In the post, Trump mused over reports Meadows accepted an immunity deal, saying those who do so “are weaklings and cowards.”
And while Chutkan declined to include herself in the gag order, she has faced threats since being assigned to the case, including by a Texas woman who left a threatening and racist voicemail for the judge.
Chutkan has previously chided Trump’s team for failing to recognize the risks of his speech.
“Several times the court and the government pointed to evidence causally linking certain kinds of statements with those risks, and Defendant never disputed it,” Chutkan said of their Oct. 16 hearing to weigh the matter.
“The evidence is in the record; Defendant simply fails to acknowledge it.”
Trump is also under a gag order in his New York financial fraud case where he has twice been fined for making comments about court staff.
Judge Arthur Engoron said that since the start of the trial, he’s been “inundated with hundreds of threatening and harassing phone calls” and letters.
He later extended the order barring comments about his staff to Trump’s attorneys, citing “the need to protect them from threats and physical harm.”
thehill.com
Former President Trump diminished the risks of his attacks on those involved in his federal election interference case, complaining he has been hit with a gag order based on “speculation” about what his followers might do.
The comment came in Trump’s first brief as he appeals a gag order issued by Judge Tanya Chutkan that bars him from making statements that would “target” foreseeable witnesses, prosecutors or court personnel involved in the case.
The filing, which comes after several rounds of earlier briefs on the gag order, largely repeats Trump’s arguments that they are a violation of his First Amendment rights, contending they are especially important to the candidate for office.
But they also dismiss Chutkan’s decision as “speculation that President Trump’s audiences might react to his speech with ‘harassment’ or ‘threats’ to prosecutors, witnesses, or court staff.”
“President Trump has made many public statements about this case in the three months since his indictment, and yet the Department of Justice … submitted no evidence of any ‘threats’ or ‘harassment’ to prosecutors, witnesses, or court staff during that time,” his attorneys wrote.
An initial September motion for the gag order mentioned numerous instances in which Trump’s prior comments about the election had spurred threats against his targets, including against two Georgia election workers later forced to leave their homes for their safety as well as a Pennsylvania election official who later received death threats against himself and his family.
In the filing, Trump points to a moment in a hearing over the gag order in which prosecutors said the risks in this case were speculative.
But in later filings, prosecutors accused Trump of making improper statements, including one directed at his former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, saying it violated prohibition on contacting or threatening witnesses.
In the post, Trump mused over reports Meadows accepted an immunity deal, saying those who do so “are weaklings and cowards.”
And while Chutkan declined to include herself in the gag order, she has faced threats since being assigned to the case, including by a Texas woman who left a threatening and racist voicemail for the judge.
Chutkan has previously chided Trump’s team for failing to recognize the risks of his speech.
“Several times the court and the government pointed to evidence causally linking certain kinds of statements with those risks, and Defendant never disputed it,” Chutkan said of their Oct. 16 hearing to weigh the matter.
“The evidence is in the record; Defendant simply fails to acknowledge it.”
Trump is also under a gag order in his New York financial fraud case where he has twice been fined for making comments about court staff.
Judge Arthur Engoron said that since the start of the trial, he’s been “inundated with hundreds of threatening and harassing phone calls” and letters.
He later extended the order barring comments about his staff to Trump’s attorneys, citing “the need to protect them from threats and physical harm.”
Trump dismisses risks, asks appeals court to toss gag order
Former President Trump diminished the risks of his attacks on those involved in his federal election interference case, complaining he has been hit with a gag order based on “speculation” about wha…
thehill.com
BudmanTX
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i only hire the best people....
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Trump lawyer Alina Habba objects to her own documents in courtroom stumble
Donald Trump's lawyers spent Wednesday morning objecting to the Attorney General's Office asking to enter several documents into evidence -- but one of them was their own.As witness Ivanka Trump took the stand, prosecutors asked her several questions about conversations she had or emails she...
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DIY-HP-LED
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Donald hired her so he could repeat her name during difficult questions on the witness stand, habba, habba, habba... It won't look so bad on the court transcript when they appeal it.i only hire the best people....
Trump lawyer Alina Habba objects to her own documents in courtroom stumble
Donald Trump's lawyers spent Wednesday morning objecting to the Attorney General's Office asking to enter several documents into evidence -- but one of them was their own.As witness Ivanka Trump took the stand, prosecutors asked her several questions about conversations she had or emails she...
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DIY-HP-LED
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Trump in for RUDE AWAKENING in federal court, RECKLESS Behavior WON’T FLY
Donald Trump will not be able to lash out in court and hold impromptu press conferences they way he did in the NY CIVIL FRAUD BENCH TRIAL during his upcoming FEDERAL AND STATE criminal JURY trials . Michael Popok of Legal AF explains why Donald Trump was able to be disruptive in his civil fraud bench trial in ways that he will be prevented from doing so in front of a jury in the federal and state criminal cases upcoming, and why he will have to sit every day on court during the criminal trials without break.
topcat
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Silicone sister.i only hire the best people....
Trump lawyer Alina Habba objects to her own documents in courtroom stumble
Donald Trump's lawyers spent Wednesday morning objecting to the Attorney General's Office asking to enter several documents into evidence -- but one of them was their own.As witness Ivanka Trump took the stand, prosecutors asked her several questions about conversations she had or emails she...
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