Recieved clones in poor health how to fix them?

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Brettz

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I recieved clones a week ago they were potted up into one litre pots of coco.

I been growing few years now but stil find it hard to bring sik plant bak to gd health as lots of deficiencies have similar syptoms.

Ive got light on 25% until they loook better.
Light is 320 watt led. 3 ft away.
Ive been feeding 1.2ec to run off for lqst fove days.

Yday because all roots was hanging out bottom i potted them up to 4 litre pots. Coco70% perlite 30%.
Used great white In wholes.
Then fed cana a&b and rhizotonic 1.4 ec. Ph 5.9 , 10-20% run off.
And fed today 400 mil each to run off?

Should i let them.get a little dry bak Until they perk up?.


Some help me get them bak on track asap please.
Cheers growmies
 

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Brettz

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Beem told they r hungry and feed calmag. Ppl say different stuff i new to do one at a time to see what fixes it.
 
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Brettz

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Never ph water in coco. Coco has no nutrients in them at all. You Can alsonfeed clones the same as wa the mother plant was having.
I dont no if you no jason from autopots. The c.e.o. he said they look starving.. .
I jus find it hard to pinpoint wa deficinecy is. .
Does it need calmag. More light more feed. Waiting dor experiencwd coco grower to see whay they think. Cheers for replies though.
 
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Brettz said:
This was when i got the clones.
Two days later had them perking up. 2nd picture. They was under two t5 lights then.

Then i moved them to the tent. Under led light 3 foot away. On 50% lights 320 watt led.

Theyve grew but slow. But stretched. Not branched out. And look bit better
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They obviously looked better under the t5's. You want a low light setting for clones. The interveinal chlorosis at the top of the plant looks like LED light stress. Was the person you got them from also blasting them with light? How many ml's per gallon of calmag are you adding?

As for growing slowly, clones are establishing root systems, similar to newly popped seeds do.
 
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Brettz

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ec121 said:
They obviously looked better under the t5's. You want a low light setting for clones. The interveinal chlorosis at the top of the plant looks like LED light stress. Was the person you got them from also blasting them with light?

As for growing slowly, clones are establishing root systems, similar to newly popped seeds do.
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They come in one litre pots. Roots was hanging out the bottom.
And deffo looked better under t5s. But 80 watt 3 foot above was probably similar in ppfd. Jus dont no what to do.to get them to.bounce bak asap
 
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Brettz said:
They come in one litre pots. Roots was hanging out the bottom.
And deffo looked better under t5s. But 80 watt 3 foot above was probably similar in ppfd. Jus dont no what to do.to get them to.bounce bak asap
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Yeah, but you put them under at 50% and just recently put it to 25%, yes? How many ml's of calmag are you adding per gallon?
 
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Brettz

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ec121 said:
Yeah, but you put them under at 50% and just recently put it to 25%, yes? How many ml's of calmag are you adding per gallon?
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Tbf i only added calmag today. 0.5 mil per litre
Reason being. Cana told me cana a &b hoth have cal mag in them and i would have it my tap water. But few people have said needs calmag so have added to my mix for tomoz. I might even foliar spray
 
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Brettz said:
Yh moved light bak down to 25%
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Like today or yesterday? LED light stress looks similar to a magnesium deficiency, but your symptoms appear all over so it's hard to know exactly (mg starts at the bottom of the plant and light stress starts at the top), but they looked better under the t5's so that's an indicator.

You're feeding at 1.2 and how often are you feeding? When you feed again, take a measurement of your runoff and give the EC of that.
 
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Brettz

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ec121 said:
Like today or yesterday? LED light stress looks similar to a magnesium deficiency, but your symptoms appear all over so it's hard to know exactly (mg starts at the bottom of the plant and light stress starts at the top), but they looked better under the t5's so that's an indicator.

You're feeding at 1.2 and how often are you feeding? When you feed again, take a measurement of your runoff and give the EC of that.
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Yday. Blue truncheon was flashing between 1.2-1.4 ec today. Feeding once per day to run off. Took 400 mil today to get run off. I was debating on wheter to carry on watering daily in coco like ur meant to or let them dry a bit as they aint going to be drinking like a healthy plant..
I will give you ec readings tomorrow.

And led light prob as stressed them and caused cal mag def. I read that under led they can go through more calmag..
 
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Brettz said:
Yday. Blue truncheon was flashing between 1.2-1.4 ec today. Feeding once per day to run off. Took 400 mil today to get run off. I was debating on wheter to carry on watering daily in coco like ur meant to or let them dry a bit as they aint going to be drinking like a healthy plant..
I will give you ec readings tomorrow.

And led light prob as stressed them and caused cal mag def. I read that under led they can go through more calmag..
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Knowing the runoff EC will assist here. If they were my plants, I would cover my bases and add the calmag in, stick it back under the t5, and feed at 1.1, but I agree that 80W at 36" is probably a safe PPFD.
 
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Brettz

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ec121 said:
Knowing the runoff EC will assist here. If they were my plants, I would cover my bases and add the calmag in, stick it back under the t5, and feed at 1.1, but I agree that 80W at 36" is probably a safe PPFD.
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Il see how nex few days go with calmag. Foliar spray would be absorbed quicker wouldnt it. Il put run off ec up tomororw.
 
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Brettz

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heres the ec and ph of run off all plants.
Ec in 1.2-1.4 ( flashing between both?
Ph in 5,8

Plant one ph out 5.2 , ec out 1.2
Plant 2. Ph out 5.6 ec out 1.2-1.4
Plant 3. Ph out 5.7 ec out 1.4
Plant 4 PH OUT 5.7. Ec out 1.2-1.4
Plant 5 ph out 5.8 ec 1.0


calmag def gota be. Few brown spots come today.
 
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ec121

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Brettz said:
heres the ec and ph of run off all plants.
Ec in 1.2-1.4 ( flashing between both?
Ph in 5,8

Plant one ph out 5.2 , ec out 1.2
Plant 2. Ph out 5.6 ec out 1.2-1.4
Plant 3. Ph out 5.7 ec out 1.4
Plant 4 PH OUT 5.7. Ec out 1.2-1.4
Plant 5 ph out 5.8 ec 1.0


calmag def gota be. Few brown spots come today.
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Those numbers are good, obviously. Post new pics please. You didn't have a calcium deficiency in the other pics. If a calcium deficiency is developing, you can bump your inflow pH to around 6.2 and bring it down to 5.8 in early veg. In general, that's a good strategy in coco, but I buffer my coco really well and tend to be lazy and just drill it at 5.8.

Also, don't get alarmed at outlfow pH numbers and most certainly don't ever change inflow pH in an attempt to change outflow pH.
 
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Brettz

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Get pictures tomorrow.. gota be calmag brown spots on pale leaves.red stems.

Im happy witht the tun off results a few can be bit higher so il jus feed bit higher ph tomorrow.
But yeh wil send pics over tomorrow.
 
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