Best way to revive a classic strain.

Charles U Farley

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Lets all be honest here the best weed 30 years ago was bottom shelf today…
That would be an incorrect statement, from one who has experience from over 50 years ago, in addition to purchasing GSC 5 years ago.

You might want to Google: Zion Coptic Church, 1970s, Jamaica and sensimilla... it was known as Gainesville Green at U of F. It would easily compare to anything available today.

This link may be helpful to the OP :

Seed Resuscitation
 
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Everytimefoo

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That would be an incorrect statement, from one who has experience from over 50 years ago, in addition to purchasing GSC 5 years ago.

You might want to Google: Zion Coptic Church, 1970s, Jamaica and sensimilla... it was known as Gainesville Green at U of F. It would easily compare to anything available today.

This link may be helpful to the OP :

Seed Resuscitation
Sounds like some stoner lore. Here is what i do know for sure:
 

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pegboy

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Nah, thats just false. The average weed is better than it ever was, but the greats are just as great as they ever were, and I would put the few classics I have had the pleasure of smoking up against any modern polyhybrid.
Agreed. I'm 59 years old and one hit weed back then was just as good as one hit weed now. Yes there was a lot of seeded bunk weed back in those days but the kind bud was pretty damn good. A $400 ounce of northern lights would wreck you after 2 or 3 pinch hitters just as well as any of the weed today.

Anyway heres and update. First 8 seeds germinated were duds after 12 days. Got 12 more germinating right now. I'm still holding out hope. Fingers crossed.
 

curious2garden

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Question about the open pollination methods you use...

Do you have any concern or opinion on the concept that the first male to drop pollen doing the bulk of the pollinating, causing the batch of seed to lean heavily towards that males genetic expression? Is there a way of handling this without hand pollinating all the ladies?
I've considered that and I've justified my non intervention by assuring myself that ovules develop at different rates too on the same plant. Essentially I'm lazy and I run clones so I figured if for some reason a male looked absolutely stellar I could separate him later for a run. But essentially when I'm doing an open table I don't intervene and I've never felt I had anything that looked good enough to justify a second table.

I'm really looking forward to university research that can answer all those questions without guessing. Especially with the polyhybridization phenomenon of genetics from different places on the globe we could use those answers to guide legitimate researchers and preserve irreplaceable genetics.
 

Charles U Farley

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Sounds like some stoner lore. Here is what i do know for sure:
This is my experience, from 1978:

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And a shot from the last year at this time when I was doing a little experimenting:

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Your stoner lore comment was offensive, since unlike you, I have experience with both the old school strains and the multi polyhybrids that have to be treated like an African Violet before they hermie on you. So you see, I can speak intelligently about a subject and not just blabber ignorant and inexperienced opinions that offer nothing of value in the thread.
 

decrepit digits

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Lets all be honest here the best weed 30 years ago was bottom shelf today…
To be honest most weed today should be bottom shelf. I have had peeps bringing me samples and smoke reports for decades now, none can compare to what I all ready have. I have been given cuts of dumpster,f13,grape ape? and others that time has allowed me to forget. They took it as a challenge to try and one up me. They went to jamaica and were told they should have brought some with them in colorado they were given concentrates instead of weed, washington state it was some lemon weed and they will no longer partake when offered better. State went medical and they are still trying. Don't let anyone fool you there is all ways something better to be found or grown.
 

Everytimefoo

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This is my experience, from 1978:

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And a shot from the last year at this time when I was doing a little experimenting:

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Your stoner lore comment was offensive, since unlike you, I have experience with both the old school strains and the multi polyhybrids that have to be treated like an African Violet before they hermie on you. So you see, I can speak intelligently about a subject and not just blabber ignorant and inexperienced opinions that offer nothing of value in the thread.
Beautiful plant. Thanks for posting, i’m just not a fan of some stories about zion churches and witch doctors smokin weed post pics of this legendary weed. Sorry im just a put up or shut up sort of person. Been around the block. And appreciate old school i just dont do story time about sasquatch/bigfoot weed some wizards grew in the 70’s. Some old scho hash for yah.
 

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Everytimefoo

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Beautiful plant. Thanks for posting, i’m just not a fan of some stories about zion churches and witch doctors smokin weed post pics of this legendary weed. Sorry im just a put up or shut up sort of person. Been around the block. And appreciate old school i just dont do story time about sasquatch/bigfoot weed some wizards grew in the 70’s. Some old scho hash for yah.
Offensive… that was easy…
 

Everytimefoo

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This is my experience, from 1978:

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And a shot from the last year at this time when I was doing a little experimenting:

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Your stoner lore comment was offensive, since unlike you, I have experience with both the old school strains and the multi polyhybrids that have to be treated like an African Violet before they hermie on you. So you see, I can speak intelligently about a subject and not just blabber ignorant and inexperienced opinions that offer nothing of value in the thread.
Wasnt trying to be offensive, I’ve just heard a lot of stories and the like. Here is one for you from back in the day.. “if you boil your roots, your plants will go into shock, and send extra thc to the plaaants maaaann.”
 

Everytimefoo

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To be honest most weed today should be bottom shelf. I have had peeps bringing me samples and smoke reports for decades now, none can compare to what I all ready have. I have been given cuts of dumpster,f13,grape ape? and others that time has allowed me to forget. They took it as a challenge to try and one up me. They went to jamaica and were told they should have brought some with them in colorado they were given concentrates instead of weed, washington state it was some lemon weed and they will no longer partake when offered better. State went medical and they are still trying. Don't let anyone fool you there is all ways something better to be found or grown.
I live in colorado and get my genetics from canada. Golden goat is some pioneered colorado strain and it was invented one neighborhood over from where i live, and its meh. Supposed to be some high potency bla bla this and that but meh. The disepnsaries here are set it and forget it, 8/10 times you wont even get cured weed lol. But lets not get off topic and im all for this strain revival 30 year old beans might germ give it a shot.
 

conor c

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Sounds like some stoner lore. Here is what i do know for sure:
Nah its not lore weed may have a bit higher in thc overall but its lacking in other areas half the shit these days has 0 legs dont last long at all or worse it is the same boring short lived high that makes it all samey not unique thats not progress in my book as someone who was lucky enough to have smoked imported hashes and bud from quite a few places across the globe and plenty of the modern stuff there is no comparison and the best of the modern stuff is all accidental or bagseed anyway so that should say something
 
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Everytimefoo

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Nah its not lore weed may have a bit higher in thc overall but its lacking in other areas half the shit these days has 0 legs dont last long at all or worse it is the same boring short lived high that makes it all samey not unique thats not progress in my book as someone who was lucky enough to have smoked imported hashes and bud from quite a few places across the globe and plenty of the modern stuff there is no comparison and the best of the modern stuff is all accidental or bagseed anyway so that should say something
Wish i could say the same but the crop i just harvested is easily a two hour high. I dunno man sometimes i wonder if this is just purist hippie logic/placebo/nostalgia. Kind of like saying atari is better than playstation 5 just because you grew up on it, and associate it with the good ole days…
 

Tolerance Break

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Wish i could say the same but the crop i just harvested is easily a two hour high. I dunno man sometimes i wonder if this is just purist hippie logic/placebo/nostalgia. Kind of like saying atari is better than playstation 5 just because you grew up on it, and associate it with the good ole days…
If what you got is working for you, that's awesome, but that doesn't make everybody else here wrong.
 

conor c

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Wish i could say the same but the crop i just harvested is easily a two hour high. I dunno man sometimes i wonder if this is just purist hippie logic/placebo/nostalgia. Kind of like saying atari is better than playstation 5 just because you grew up on it, and associate it with the good ole days…
I understand the nostalgia factor and with some things it may be but i wouldnt say its completely so with cannabis another example would be tolerance you definitely build tolerance alot faster than the old stuff idk about you but ive not had a tolerance break in more than 20 +years not even a day lol and only so many things cut through from the modern stuff literally chems and proper ogs or gg4 based stuff seem to do it and there all accidents not much else does for me where as a good real hindu kush or a real haze or nevils haze or a nice african or whatever does and you dont seem to build tolerance as fast there seems to be less of a ceiling with the old stuff in my experience anyway vs modern stuff
 
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