On Wealth Redistribution(Socialism)

CrackerJax

New Member
The Govt. isn't owned by anybody. You start your entire premise with a falsehood and then expand upon the fault line..... rant, rant, rant, no focus or accuracy.

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TheBrutalTruth

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This is what I don't get about rich people. They already have enough. (Define enough) Enough money is the amount it takes to meet all your needs and have some left over for emergencies, be able to put some into savings and retirement, be able to send your kids to any school you want, pay off your home before retirement, drive reasonably nice transportation, dress well, have adequate medical coverage, take at least 3 weeks vacation every year, Oh wait, that is what I was able to do working union jobs, so I guess I was rich. Now how much more does one need?? let's hear it from the rich or as I know them to be, wannabees. Do you really need a lear jet, a 60-90ft yacht, a summer home in the south of France, a 10,000++ square ft. mansion, 10-20 exotic cars??? Clue me in on what you think you really need.
Well by that definition MedoMao, I'm sure that you have more than enough. You really don't need money to be in the stock market, and if you were conservative with your "needs" and separated them out from your wants, you could easily survive in a little single room shack, and survive by eating just basic food. Perhaps you have too many luxuries...

Give me a break...

Who cares if they need it or not, clearly they decided that it is what they wanted and they worked to get it.

Of course, the problem is that the left is jealous of the assets and belongings that these people have attained, thinking that the wealth they represent needs to be redistributed.

Capitalism guarantees unequal outcomes of wealth

Socialism guarantees equal outcomes of poverty

Besides, on top of advocating a system where everyone is equally poor, you are also advocating a system where excellence, merit and determination are not rewarded.

Screw that.

Why don't you stop worrying about their business and worry about yours?
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Yup, it's all governments fault, wait, isn't government owned by the corporations and the rich elites

Oh yeah, that just does so much to explain why it was idiots in Congress that were forcing the bankers to make crappy loans with CRA. Owned by them hardly, influenced by them certainly, but government is also influenced by those idiots in ACORN who resemble most liberals in that they don't know how to mind their own business.

, yup, that's the case. I guess you forgot about that little detail, eh? When the government starts asking me what to spend the money on, then you can start blaming liberals, but so far they haven't uttered one word to me. It's the lobbiests that tell the government where to spend the money, or next time they need some campaign money, tough bananas.

Yes, and I'm sure there are people like you that donate money to some lobbying organizations thus to pretend to have clean hands is a myth. What is it that you have in your quote something about Truth being related to reality in particular. Perhaps you should read your own quote and Meditate on it for a few.

Also, when a senator or congressman is defeated, they go to some private firm they made rich and get a job lobbying for them, as they are well known in congress.

For all we know it could be the lobbying firm of NOW or ACORN. Hardly the lobbyists for the rich as you try to paint it.

It is the peak of corruption and is definently controlled by the rich. Again I must say, it is no longer a republic, but an oligarcic plutochracy.


Versus the alternative that you want which would be a mediocrity ran by the lowest common denominator I think this system worked fairly well. Until the Socialists like you decided that the rich had too much money and passed income tax laws and thus screwed the rest of the working class over.

Yep, stupid socialists and their stupid income tax, that's what has screwed this country, because those million dollar houses, while they do represent extra consumption when they are constructed they also represent extra production adding jobs to the economy that would not be there if the wealthy were just content to live in a regular hours.

The paintings that they collect and pay $5K or $10K or $100K represent more wealth moving down to the brokers, artists, auctioneers, and so on and so forth.

The very fact that you people seem to think that fixed goods represent fixed wealth is ludicrous in the extreme. The goods are not wealth, they may have value, but they are not wealth. One only needs to look at the stock market or the housing market to grasp this. Housing and Stocks Collapsed destroying the value that was stored in the market, but the cash had already changed hands. The people that entered first at lower prices got to sell at higher prices, and received the money from the people that entered after them. The money that the stock market represents has already been given to other people. All that a person does by selling is agree to a reduction in value of the asset (not that in some cases it isn't justified) but there is no wealth created or destroyed, merely transferred.

Same with the mansions, private jets, vacation homes, and so on and so forth. It takes money, time and labor to build them and in the end that money is transferred to the people providing the time and labor to build them.

To argue that they don't need those houses is the equivalent of arguing that the workers that built them don't need those jobs. It's a stupid argument that makes no fucking sense in the long run, and the only logical conclusion from your arguments is that you want a system where stupid lazy fuckers like yourself do nothing but sit on their ass all fucking day whining about how life isn't fair, because they don't want to get off their ass and MAKE SOMETHING OF THEMSELVES.

 

CrackerJax

New Member
Isn't that the governments business?

Only the I.R.S.'s business. Anything else gums up the works. One need only look as far as the real estate debacle brought to you by your friendly neighborhood fed's. Now they say they can fix it for us... uh huh. Next time just get out of the way. :peace:



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ChChoda

Well-Known Member
Only the I.R.S.'s business. Anything else gums up the works. One need only look as far as the real estate debacle brought to you by your friendly neighborhood fed's. Now they say they can fix it for us... uh huh. Next time just get out of the way. :peace:



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Bastards! Don't forget state taxes.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Using liberal logic (oxymoron?), if everyone would just work for the Govt., there wouldn't be any unemployment :mrgreen:



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ViRedd

New Member
I've got to say ... some of you have a lot more patients that I do. I've pretty much stopped responding to Med's ridiculous rants.

Vi
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Ever notice how ling his posts stay up without responses? :lol:

Finally someone forges ahead despite the drivel..... :peace:



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