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DIY-HP-LED

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I dunno if this sends a message, but it sure looks like Ukraine has another ally to me and Russia a new enemy. It might make more difference in DC than in Ukraine though as the powerful Israeli lobby gets to work on the GOP holding up aid to both Israel and Ukraine. If they blame Russia for supporting the terrorism, they will help Ukraine to destroy Russian military power and remove them from the middle east. The best way to do that is to use their influence in America to help with Ukrainian aid.

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BudmanTX

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I dunno if this sends a message, but it sure looks like Ukraine has another ally to me and Russia a new enemy. It might make more difference in DC than in Ukraine though as the powerful Israeli lobby gets to work on the GOP holding up aid to both Israel and Ukraine. If they blame Russia for supporting the terrorism, they will help Ukraine to destroy Russian military power and remove them from the middle east. The best way to do that is to use their influence in America is to help with Ukrainian aid.

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kinda makes ya think huh

reminds me of that "thehill" article that i found, think i posted it on here.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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kinda makes ya think huh

reminds me of that "thehill" article that i found, think i posted it on here.....
When you put it together with the other pieces of public domain information, especially that Israeli MP freaking out on Russia on RT and making dire threats, it adds up. Russia and Iran are allies after all and they have been greatly weakened by Ukraine and if Joe has a plan to destroy Russian economic and military power, he told them about it. The intelligence agencies know far more than we do, but if the Israeli cabinet feels the same way as the guy in the video, Russia and Iran will be included in the retribution. The best way for Israel to get retribution on Russia, is to support Ukrainian aid with their powerful lobby in America, with Trump's trouble and Israeli influence even the magats will be split and might be a reason for the new speaker giving on Ukrainian aid, Israel is big with the evangelicals and second coming crowd. The republicans have pro-Israeli and neo-Nazi antisemitic wings too, even pro Ukrainian hawks.
 

BudmanTX

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When you put it together with the other pieces of public domain information, especially that Israeli MP freaking out on Russia on RT and making dire threats, it adds up. Russia and Iran are allies after all and they have been greatly weakened by Ukraine and if Joe has a plan to destroy Russian economic and military power, he told them about it. The intelligence agencies know far more than we do, but if the Israeli cabinet feels the same way as the guy in the video, Russia and Iran will be included in the retribution. The best way for Israel to get retribution on Russia, is to support Ukrainian aid with their powerful lobby in America, with Trump's trouble and Israeli influence even the magats will be split and might be a reason for the new speaker giving on Ukrainian aid, Israel is big with the evangelicals and second coming crowd. The republicans have pro-Israeli and neo-Nazi antisemitic wings too, even pro Ukrainian hawks.
to the bold...in reality...that's all you needed to say....js
 

DIY-HP-LED

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to the bold...in reality...that's all you needed to say....js
How will they act on it though, they need most of their arms right now and the best way to make Russia feel the pain is to get America to support Ukraine and use the hold their lobby has over the GOP to smooth the way for aid while Trump goes down in court and perhaps to jail soon.
 

BudmanTX

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How will they act on it though, they need most of their arms right now and the best way to make Russia feel the pain is to get America to support Ukraine and use the hold their lobby has over the GOP to smooth the way for aid while Trump goes down in court and perhaps to jail soon.
honestly, that's something i would like to find out myself. A Ukrainian and Isreali alliance is not to far fetched considering what's going on.....i just wish Isreal would learn a little from Ukraine
 

DIY-HP-LED

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to the bold...in reality...that's all you needed to say....js
A lot of magat support comes from the south, evangelical country and they are heavily into supporting Israel and anti-Muslim. The Israeli lobby shifting focus to helping Ukraine would cause trouble for the republicans, particularly magats from the south. Think the new speaker might have some inside information on all this? Think Joe would make sure he knew what was coming? ;)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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honestly, that's something i would like to find out myself. A Ukrainian and Isreali alliance is not to far fetched considering what's going on.....i just wish Isreal would learn a little from Ukraine
I dunno how public it will be, more perhaps if magats block funding, but if Joe brings Israel on board, the magats and Russia are fucked I figure.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There is already plenty of aid approved and Joe doles it out as he sees fit, then there are the allies and the money and aid they provide, they can buy old surplus arms from America for a good price and give it to Ukraine too, if they can't make their own. Russia has a dozen larger economies than its own, besides America, as allies of Ukraine.

If Israel aligns with Ukraine, wants retribution upon Russia and a weakening of their global position including in the middle east, then they will use their lobby in America with both parties to support Ukrainian aid. It will be another wedge in the republican party and one the leadership might not want, other than Trump and he is going down fast and could even be jailed soon. Trump and those who appease him are the only anti Ukrainian elements in the GOP. When Trump disappears so will much of the pro-Russian sentiment I figure, and if evangelicals get on board with Israel/Ukraine there will be real trouble in the henhouse. The Republicans have anti Ukraine, neo-Nazi, antisemitic and evangelical wings, Trump paradoxically holds them together while dividing them at the same time. It's a real shitshow of grievance, discontent, fascism, religion, lunacy, ignorance, brainwashing and stupidity.

 
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