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'This Tank Instills Great Fear': Ukrainian Troops Praise Leopard 2 Tanks Sent By Sweden

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Ukrainian tank crews are rolling into battle with the Swedish version of the German Leopard 2 tank. Current Time correspondent Oleksiy Prodayvoda visited Ukrainian troops near the front line who say Russian forces fear the tank's high-precision, armor-piercing shells.
 
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They won't get much sympathy when the lose with that attitude, Biden and the western allies will make sure Russia is evicted from Ukraine while almost all their military power and economy is destroyed too. There will be geopolitical implications for the middle east and Caucuses arising from this downfall, especially if Israel assigns responsibility to Russia as well as Iran for supporting Hamas. Preaching genocide is bad PR and just motivates the other side to fight like Hell or to the death.

The veneer of civilization is thin in Russia, sociologically speaking they appear to be a century behind the times. Maybe the internet and cellphones had something to do with a million young Russian men voting with their feet and getting out of Russia early in the war.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715802042902446217
 
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How Drone Warfare Changed Everything

There is no debate that weaponized drones have forever changed the tactical-level conduct of war. Even nations without access to larger drones are showing just how dangerous cheap commercial quadcopters are on the battlefield. Just look at this video of a weaponized civilian drone HAMAS used to take out an Israeli remote control machine gun during their October attack. Or their use against comtmunications towers. Here is another video of a commercial drone being prepped for use in the ongoing Sudan civil war. You now have the power of surveillance and close air support organic at the squad level for a few thousand dollars instead of a few million.

But nowhere is the combat use of drones (small and large) more prevalent than in the ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia. Small quadcopters and fixed wing drones with increasingly heavy payloads are able to hit soft targets.
 
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Russia still has a lot of equipment in storage, though I don't know how much of it is operational or can be made that way. I figure they will lose a lot more before they are driven from Ukraine and that should take about a year. However, it might not be over for Russia as trouble in Georgia and Belarus could flare up and they might lose still more stuff. They will continue to lose shit inside their borders if Ukraine drives them out and they do not sign a meaningful peace. IMO they will lose most of their most modern arms in this war and will be nowhere near as dangerous an adversary as before this war began. A NATO equipped army with airpower going up against these guys will slaughter them, Ukraine is without airpower. They can't even deal with 30- and 40-year-old western weapons systems like early HIMARS variants, or even simple drones.


Russian BMPs and other fighting vehicles remaining in storage
 
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BudmanTX said:
Yeah they did, didn't they. Only wish I could see the guys faces in the truck behind it :shock:
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lol, yes, watching the vid, my thoughts are: "Why on earth did they continue on when things went boom?" They first enter the field of view at 12 seconds and didn't even slow down until 33 seconds, when they turned into the street where the explosion went off. Why not put that thing into reverse at 13 seconds and get the hell out of the area, fast. What? Did they think there was anything left of the crew in that first vehicle to be rescued after that blast? Burning napalm landing all around them was another clue.
 
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I needed some context and looked it up.

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The two bodies of water are the Black Sea (bottom left) and Sea of Azov (bottom right). The red mark is where the battle described in your post took place, near Krasnohorivka. In an earlier post by DIY, the narrator describes a battle over a crossing of the Dnipro River, just east of Kherson. Krasnohorivka is about 60 miles north of the Sea of Asov. The beachhead on the east side of the Dnipro River is about 40 miles north of the Black Sea. If one draws a line between Kherson and Krasnohorivka, one can see the threat the Russians are under. First Kherson and then Mariupol will fall if these operations are successful at reaching the sea. Cirmea will be cut off. The Russian Navy has retreated from these regions and no longer control the waters. 40 or 60 miles in this war is a long, hard slog but it's not incredible to think that the Russia is facing the end days of their occupation.
 
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Fogdog said:
I needed some context and looked it up.

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The two bodies of water are the Black Sea (bottom left) and Sea of Azov (bottom right). The red mark is where the battle described in your post took place, near Krasnohorivka. In an earlier post by DIY, the narrator describes a battle over a crossing of the Dnipro River, just east of Kherson. Krasnohorivka is about 60 miles north of the Sea of Asov. The beachhead on the east side of the Dnipro River is about 40 miles north of the Black Sea. If one draws a line between Kherson and Krasnohorivka, one can see the threat the Russians are under. First Kherson and then Mariupol will fall if these operations are successful at reaching the sea. Cirmea will be cut off. The Russian Navy has retreated from these regions and no longer control the waters. 40 or 60 miles in this war is a long, hard slog but it's not incredible to think that the Russia is facing the end days of their occupation.
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Will not be getting there this year, when the F-16's get there it may be a different story. The big problem is heavy armor across the Dnipro. I have been listening to Andrew Perpetuam they guy that looks for shelling to determine where the front line is. He says he barely sees anything of note around the river. Sure both sides trade ground back and forth, but one thing that the Russians have been doing is saying the Ukrainians took over an area and then in a day or two they say they took it back. They get a pat on the head for giving it to the Ukrainians without a shot fired from either side.

On the Geo spot, Andrew says that it would be really bad for the Ukrainians if the Russians took Krasnohorivka, it was as big a battle as Avdivka and they lost a lot of armor there. These are two places that makes more sense for the Russians to take rather that something like Vuhledar and Bakhmut. They are trying to take them for a victory to show the people before election day. I am somewhat not surprised that there is not much mention in the Russian press about the loses they have been taken. But then again, they did come down on the bloggers.
 
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Will not be getting there this year, when the F-16's get there it may be a different story. The big problem is heavy armor across the Dnipro. I have been listening to Andrew Perpetuam they guy that looks for shelling to determine where the front line is. He says he barely sees anything of note around the river. Sure both sides trade ground back and forth, but one thing that the Russians have been doing is saying the Ukrainians took over an area and then in a day or two they say they took it back. They get a pat on the head for giving it to the Ukrainians without a shot fired from either side.

On the Geo spot, Andrew says that it would be really bad for the Ukrainians if the Russians took Krasnohorivka, it was as big a battle as Avdivka and they lost a lot of armor there. These are two places that makes more sense for the Russians to take rather that something like Vuhledar and Bakhmut. They are trying to take them for a victory to show the people before election day. I am somewhat not surprised that there is not much mention in the Russian press about the loses they have been taken. But then again, they did come down on the bloggers.
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I'm just saying that I think I now have a better understanding of the strategy Ukraine is following. I could be the last one here to understand. Ukraine seems to be event driven ("first we do this, then we do that"). They aren't schedule driven when carrying out their strategy. This is understandable because hurried offenses like the one the Russians tried in Krasnohorivka and Ukraine tried earlier in their counter offensive led to wasted resources without any gain. That Russia continues to try using massed armor charges to break through and continues to experience losses without gain says a lot about their lack of answers to what Ukraine is doing.


So, yeah, it's not going to be over this year. What an awful winter both sides are headed for. That said, with Ukraine's determination to follow their strategy and NATO's material support, their strategy seems to be working.
 
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If the idea is to destroy the Russian army, then defense is better than attack for right now, letting them come to you and mow them down with artillery. Don't worry about gaining ground when you can kill Russians with few losses, kill enough Russians and they will get the ground anyway.


Putin's Misstep: Ukraine Seizes Advantage - Ukraine War Map Update 22/Oct/2023
 
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