Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 27.5%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 42 26.3%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%

  • Total voters
    160

DIY-HP-LED

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A third of the world population lives between the tropic of Cancer and the tropic of Capricorn where the daylength varies little seasonally, well over half to 3/4s of the world's population lives inside 35 degrees north and south of the equator. People at such latitudes have little seasonal daylight variation and can easily heat and cool using heat pumps, without heat pumps they would need a lot less power storage, but AC could run during the day since no storage would be needed then. Above 40 degrees storage and panel area requirements go up compensate for seasonal variations and heating requirements, but it is none the less feasible or will be in a decade. Someone in the tropics or subtropics a decade from now could get a consistent charge and range out of their compact solar charged car year-round, whereas people in Canada would have to plug such a vehicle in for part of the year. It should be easier and cheaper for people living in tropical or subtropic climates to go solar, either grid scale or domestic and over half the world's population lives in these regions, most are poor though.
 

cannabineer

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A third of the world population lives between the tropic of Cancer and the tropic of Capricorn where the daylength varies little seasonally, well over half to 3/4s of the world's population lives inside 35 degrees north and south of the equator. People at such latitudes have little seasonal daylight variation and can easily heat and cool using heat pumps, without heat pumps they would need a lot less power storage, but AC could run during the day since no storage would be needed then. Above 40 degrees storage and panel area requirements go up compensate for seasonal variations and heating requirements, but it is none the less feasible or will be in a decade. Someone in the tropics or subtropics a decade from now could get a consistent charge and range out of their compact solar charged car year-round, whereas people in Canada would have to plug such a vehicle in for part of the year. It should be easier and cheaper for people living in tropical or subtropic climates to go solar, either grid scale or domestic and over half the world's population lives in these regions, most are poor though.
As one who lives at 35N, day length at the solstices varies by four+ hours.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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As one who lives at 35N, day length at the solstices varies by four+ hours.
Not a lot compared to here and the winter temps don't vary as much and for as long, your solar and storage requirements would be less than mine and if you drove a solar car, you probably could drive it on solar year-round. Those who live in the tropics wouldn't need much storage at all, if they didn't use AC, a hot water tank stores as much energy as a big house battery and most of the cooking would be done during daylight, just led lighting and devices using power other than the fridge and fans at night. The idea here is a sizable portion of the global population won't need much to go solar with plunging panel costs and minimal battery requirements. About a billion or so live in the hard parts of the planet as far as solar and storage go.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Not a lot compared to here and the winter temps don't vary as much and for as long, your solar and storage requirements would be less than mine and if you drove a solar car, you probably could drive it on solar year-round. Those who live in the tropics wouldn't need much storage at all, if they didn't use AC, a hot water tank stores as much energy as a big house battery and most of the cooking would be done during daylight, just led lighting and devices using power other than the fridge and fans at night. The idea here is a sizable portion of the global population won't need much to go solar with plunging panel costs and minimal battery requirements. About a billion or so live in the hard parts of the planet as far as solar and storage go.
You’d be surprised. Here in the Mojave we have two distinct seasons: too **** hot and too **** cold. This year spring was on a Tuesday.
 

printer

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Not a lot compared to here and the winter temps don't vary as much and for as long, your solar and storage requirements would be less than mine and if you drove a solar car, you probably could drive it on solar year-round. Those who live in the tropics wouldn't need much storage at all, if they didn't use AC, a hot water tank stores as much energy as a big house battery and most of the cooking would be done during daylight, just led lighting and devices using power other than the fridge and fans at night. The idea here is a sizable portion of the global population won't need much to go solar with plunging panel costs and minimal battery requirements. About a billion or so live in the hard parts of the planet as far as solar and storage go.
If they did not use AC in the summer?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You’d be surprised. Here in the Mojave we have two distinct seasons: too **** hot and too **** cold. This year spring was on a Tuesday.
Deserts are extreme by their nature hot in the day and cold at night, but your photo period is reasonably stable, as I said the further north or south the more panels and storage you need to cope with seasonal variability. However where most people live are reasonably easy places to go solar in, either with the grid or domestically.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If they did not use AC in the summer?
Many people from these countries don't use AC now and systems will vary depending on income level from a thousand watts with a small battery for LED lighting and charging devices to something people in developed countries would use that you can cook with and have AC or heat pump running. The point is people who live in tropical and subtropical regions need less solar and storage capacity because of less seasonal variation in day length, and there is a sizable portion of the global population living in those areas.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Deserts are extreme by their nature hot in the day and cold at night, but your photo period is reasonably stable, as I said the further north or south the more panels and storage you need to cope with seasonal variability. However where most people live are reasonably easy places to go solar in, either with the grid or domestically.
It’s not.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There will need to be some political decisions made about solar and propping up domestic production by keeping prices artificially high with tariffs on imports or no government rebates on them. The same will apply to batteries, make them at home or in friendly countries or import them cheaply from China, with the geopolitical and supply chain risks that entails in dealing with an authoritarian government and an enslaved workforce.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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The world may have crossed a "tipping point" that will inevitably make solar power our main source of energy, new research suggests.

The study, based on a data-driven model of technology and economics, finds that solar PV (photovoltaics) is likely to become the dominant power source before 2050 -- even without support from more ambitious climate policies.

"The recent progress of renewables means that fossil fuel-dominated projections are no longer realistic," Dr Femke Nijsse, from Exeter's Global Systems Institute.

"In other words, we have avoided the 'business as usual' scenario for the power sector.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Mining it is one thing, refining it is another, but there are new methods of extraction being developed that should address this. There is federal backing, money and profit to be made, even if other battery chemistries are developed, we will still use lithium for a long time and the cheaper it is the cheaper high-quality EV batteries will be for the next decade at least.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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1,000 Wh/kg! That and tandem solar cells would make a compact conventional looking solar car with 50 miles a day of solar charge possible!


Graphene Aluminum Ion Battery w/ Craig Nicol | 1,000 Wh/kg?

9,629 views Oct 5, 2023
The Graphene Manufacturing Group is developing Graphene Aluminum-Ion batteries that could be the NEXT BIG STEP CHANGE in battery technology! In this video GMG's CEO Craig Nicol explains a bit about this new battery tech and the their progress in commercializing these new batteries.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The magats will try to block it and Trump will say the money is better spent on the wall, they thrive on the chaos and problems they create.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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The batteries aren't there yet, and neither is the infrastructure, also the kind of big cars people in America prefer are not suited to electrification, they are too big and heavy and even if the batteries are there, charging such large capacities takes time and presents problems. Nobody is building the kind of small EVs people want in North America, which are probably compact cars that are easy to change. I figure the situation will change with better batteries, but it should cause a trend towards smaller cars. Everybody is going after the same profitable high-end luxury, half ton and SUV market. When batteries become cheaper then EVs will become cheaper to produce than ICE vehicles.


Why EVs Are Piling Up At Dealerships In The U.S.

1,676,185 views Oct 16, 2023 #CNBC
In August 2023, it took about twice as long to sell an EV in the U.S. as it did the previous January. Prices of EVs are down 22% year-over-year and that's mainly driven by Tesla. About two thirds of EVs sold are Elon Musk's brand. Companies like Ford have ramped up hybrid production as demand has leveled off. While slightly more than half of consumers say EVs are the future and will eventually replace Internal Combustion Engines, less than a third of dealers say so. This all comes at a time when investments in EVs are more than ever. So what's really going on? Watch the video to learn more.
 
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printer

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The batteries aren't there yet, and neither is the infrastructure, also the kind of big cars people in America prefer are not suited to electrification, they are too big and heavy and even if the batteries are there, charging such large capacities takes time and presents problems. Nobody is building the kind of small EVs people want in North America, which are probably compact cars that are easy to change. I figure the situation will change with better batteries, but it should cause a trend towards smaller cars. Everybody is going after the same profitable high-end luxury, half ton and SUV market. When batteries become cheaper than EVs will become cheaper to produce than an ICE vehicles.


Why EVs Are Piling Up At Dealerships In The U.S.

1,676,185 views Oct 16, 2023 #CNBC
In August 2023, it took about twice as long to sell an EV in the U.S. as it did the previous January. Prices of EVs are down 22% year-over-year and that's mainly driven by Tesla. About two thirds of EVs sold are Elon Musk's brand. Companies like Ford have ramped up hybrid production as demand has leveled off. While slightly more than half of consumers say EVs are the future and will eventually replace Internal Combustion Engines, less than a third of dealers say so. This all comes at a time when investments in EVs are more than ever. So what's really going on? Watch the video to learn more.
Why are trucks jacked up so their tailgate is level with loading docks. Sure not the trucks of the 70's. Drop the 4WD and the height of trucks will do wonders for the average fuel economy.
 

printer

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Billions of crabs went missing around Alaska. Scientists now know what happened to them
Billions of snow crabs have disappeared from the ocean around Alaska in recent years, and scientists now say they know why: Warmer ocean temperatures likely caused them to starve to death.

The finding comes just days after the Alaska Department of Fish and Game announced the snow crab harvest season was canceled for the second year in a row, citing the overwhelming number of crabs missing from the typically frigid, treacherous waters of the Bering Sea.

The study, published Thursday by scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, found a significant link between recent marine heat waves in the eastern Bering Sea and the sudden disappearance of the snow crabs that began showing up in surveys in 2021.


“When I received the 2021 data from the survey for the first time, my mind was just blown,” said Cody Szuwalski, lead author of the study and fishery biologist at NOAA. “Everybody was just kind of hoping and praying that that was an error in the survey and that next year you would see more crabs.”

“And then in 2022, it was more of a resignation that this is going to be a long road,” Szuwalski told CNN.

That year was the first the US snow crab fishery was closed in Alaska. Catchers have attributed to the population decline to overfishing, but “overfished” is a technical definition that triggers conservation measures, experts told CNN — it doesn’t actually explain the collapse.

“The big take home for me from the paper, and just the whole experience in general, is that historically, fishery scientists had been very worried about overfishing — this has been our white whale, and in a lot of places we really solved that with management,” Szuwalski said. “But climate change is really throwing a wrench into our plans, our models and our management systems.”

For the study, scientists analyzed what could have triggered the disappearance of the snow crabs beginning in 2020 and boiled it down to two categories: the snow crabs either moved or died.

Szuwalski said they looked north of the Bering Sea, west toward Russian waters and even into deeper levels of the oceans, and “ultimately concluded that it was unlikely that the crabs moved, and that the mortality event is probably a big driver.”

They found that warmer temperatures and population density were significantly linked to higher mortality rates among mature crabs.

The reason behind the mortality event: hungrier crabs.

Snow crabs are cold-water species and found overwhelmingly in areas where water temperatures are below 2 degrees Celsius, though they can function in waters up to 12 degrees Celsius, according to the study. Warmer ocean water likely wreaked havoc on the crabs’ metabolism and increased their caloric needs.

The amount of energy crabs needed from food in 2018 — the first year of a two-year marine heat wave in the region — may have been as much as quadrupled compared to the previous year, researchers found. But with the heat disrupting much of the Bering Sea’s food web, snow crabs had a hard time foraging for food and weren’t able to keep up with the caloric demand.

Scientists believe the crabs likely starved to death. Fish like Pacific cod likely swooped into the warmer water to feed on what was left. - NOAA Fisheries
Other species took advantage of this dire situation, said Kerim Aydin, a co-author of the study and fisheries research biologist with NOAA’s Alaska Fisheries Science Center.

Normally, there is a temperature barrier in the ocean that prevents species like Pacific cod from reaching the crabs’ extremely cold habitat. But during the heat wave, the Pacific cod were able to go to these warmer-than-usual waters and ate a portion of what was left of the crab population.

“This was a huge heat wave effect,” Aydin told CNN. “When the heat wave came through, it just created a huge amount of starvation. Other species may have moved in to take advantage of it, and then when the heat wave passed, things are maybe a bit more back to normal — although the crabs have a long road to getting past that even in normal times.”

Temperatures around the Arctic have warmed four times faster than the rest of the planet, scientists have reported. Climate change has triggered a rapid loss in sea ice in the Arctic region, particularly in Alaska’s Bering Sea, which in turn has amplified global warming.

“2018 and 2019 were an extreme anomaly in sea ice in the Bering Sea, something that we’d never seen before,” Szuwalski said. “There was maybe 4% of the coverage of ice that we’ve historically seen, and to know whether or not that’s going to continue going forward is hard to say.”

What’s happening with Alaska’s crabs is proof the climate crisis is rapidly accelerating and impacting livelihoods, Szuwalski said. He knew this was going to happen at some point, but he “didn’t expect it to happen so soon.”

“This was kind of an unexpected, punctuated change in their populations,” he said. “But I think long term, the expectation is that the snow crab population will move north as the ice recedes and in the eastern Bering Sea, we probably won’t see as much of them anymore.”
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I didn't realize how cheap these linear actuators are and the sun tracker that works with them is cheap too. In Canada ground level free standing arrays are more practical for several reasons, primarily snow on the panels when you need the power the most. However, you need the space, and it is only useful for those with appropriate suburban lots and rural properties. The only issue with a sun tracking array is the wind and when it gets so high the tracker automatically goes horizontal to reduce wind loading. In winter tracking the sun with a seasonally adjusted array might mean energy independence. If built correctly and properly balanced these things should work with a fairly large array of solar panels, the limiting factor being wind and snow, which might need to be cleared after a blizzard with the panels lying flat.


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DIY-HP-LED

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People and companies will go solar and batteries because it makes economic sense to do so, that is how you really make progress, and the EV revolution makes battery mass manufacture feasible with plenty of R&D money, new types of chemistries and steady improvements across a broad front.


Economic modelling on clean energy was wildly inaccurate | RE:TV

2,910 views Oct 4, 2023
Investment in renewable energy has been held back for decades by financial modelling that suggested that switching from fossil fuels to clean energy would be unfeasibly expensive.
However, a recent study from the Oxford Martin School has identified significant flaws in those earlier forecasts. Based on new modelling informed by more recent data, the study predicts that a transition to a nearly 100% clean energy system by around 2050 would bring economic benefits of approximately $12 trillion globally.
Professor J. Doyne Farmer explains that previous statistical models have overestimated the cost of investing in new clean technology by ignoring the reduction in the costs of technologies such as solar once they start to be deployed at scale. The study’s ‘Fast Transition’ scenario shows how a realistic, near fossil-free future would provide 55% more energy services globally than today, thanks to cost reductions across key green energy technologies: wind, solar, batteries, electric vehicles, and clean fuels such as green hydrogen.
His colleague, Professor Cameron Hepburn explains how this report will change assumptions around the cost of investing in clean energy, accelerating the transition from fossil fuels, which currently account for some 75% of GHG emissions, to cheaper, cleaner, and more energy-secure alternatives.
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RE:TV was founded by His Majesty King Charles III to highlight the innovations and ideas that are emerging in response to the climate and biodiversity crisis.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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As I mentioned before, such intermediate depth geothermal plants could provide intermittent power in conjunction with solar and batteries, not necessarily continuous baseload power all the time, this should increase the longevity of the wells and allow them time to recover. The amount of power extracted from them can be throttled up and down to meet demand and possibly save geothermal energy, if required.

I can see this working better in colder climates than in tropical ones where solar and batteries should do the job, in Canada we could probably use the boost in winter, but not much in the summer with more solar available.


Revolutionary Geothermal Technology | RE:TV

114 views Oct 18, 2023
With global demand for energy expected to increase by 50% by 2050, finding new sources of clean, reliable energy to replace fossil fuels is essential if we are to make the transition to Net Zero.

Eavor’s revolutionary geothermal technology provides a source of constant, stable energy to complement less reliable renewable energy sources, such as wind and solar, and can be used in a broad range of locations all over the world, and has a much smaller footprint than other renewable technologies.
After trialling their prototype system in Alberta over the last three years, they are now embarking on a series of commercial and industrial-sized projects, breaking ground on two projects in Bavaria and New Mexico, which will be the world's deepest and hottest directional geothermal well ever drilled.

The system absorbs heat via conduction and then brings it to the surface via an underground heat exchanger. The depth of drilling can vary depending on the geological location, reaching depths of up to nine kilometres and temperatures of 300°C.

As a closed loop system, it mitigates many of the issues that have hindered traditional geothermal solutions, and offers an opportunity for countries around the world to develop energy security.
 
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