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curious2garden

curious2garden

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Pacoson71 said:
Totally agree with you. I'm too old now to be down range.

The calculators of FPE (foot pound energy) were a common tool I used for pellet velocity ,caliber and ballistic coefficient.
115 gr 9mm traveling 900 FPS = dropping a 206Lbs weight, the thickness of 9mm from 1 foot. for ex...
At 2AM in the OR does not sound fun. :leaf::peace:
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I'm so glad you understood how I meant it. I'm sure hanging downrange waiting for a target wasn't exactly pleasant either. We each had our niche ;D Pizza sounds 1000% more fun :eyesmoke: :hug:
 
madvillian420

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To anyone with a Sig P320, be careful! A dangerous example of a manufacturer cutting corners and possibly getting folks killed. I saw a story of a Canik doing the same today with some gruesome pictures to match.

www.independent.co.uk

Handgun ‘defect’ responsible for dozens of injuries, investigation alleges

SIG Sauer P320, a striker-fired pistol, blamed for more than 80 injuries allegedly resulting from its firing without the trigger being pulled, probe finds
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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madvillian420 said:
eyeing a .45 next, simply because i dont have one yet. Was thinking 1911 at first but now im leaning towards an HK45 or FN. Leaning towards full size as itd be a safe queen/shtf/fishing sidearm bear gun.


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Just my humble opinion but I think you may be compromising function over application.
Safe queen I understand, but to expect a .45 ACP to work on a bear when a .44 mag is very marginal may be expecting more from a cartridge than it may be able to give.
I guided in Kodiak AK for 20 years & my go to weapon (on my 4 wheeler) was a 4" .500 smith with 460 gr hard cast gas check slugs @ max velocity - I considered it my "flat on my back gun" should I run up on one in a grumpy mood.
I never took a side arm while bear hunting/guiding as a good rifle (.375 H&H) is much more effective and always in hand.

BTW, I have a Colt .45 lightweight commander w/ a green crimson trace as a carry & she's sweet but I wouldn't carry it for bear defense.
 
madvillian420

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
Just my humble opinion but I think you may be compromising function over application.
Safe queen I understand, but to expect a .45 ACP to work on a bear when a .44 mag is very marginal may be expecting more from a cartridge than it may be able to give.
I guided in Kodiak AK for 20 years & my go to weapon (on my 4 wheeler) was a 4" .500 smith with 460 gr hard cast gas check slugs @ max velocity - I considered it my "flat on my back gun" should I run up on one in a grumpy mood.
I never took a side arm while bear hunting/guiding as a good rifle (.375 H&H) is much more effective and always in hand.

BTW, I have a Colt .45 lightweight commander w/ a green crimson trace as a carry & she's sweet but I wouldn't carry it for bear defense.
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Oh you mean proper bears, never seen one lol. I had an encounter with a black bear once on my land in Northern Wisconsin, another years later with a pack of coyotes that got a bit too close for comfort. Im no hunter so unarmed both times of course. Id take one of the above firearms over the can of bear spray i was fiddling for at the bottom of my camp equipment any day lol.
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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madvillian420 said:
Oh you mean proper bears, never seen one lol. I had an encounter with a black bear once on my land in Northern Wisconsin, another years later with a pack of coyotes that got a bit too close for comfort. Im no hunter so unarmed both times of course. Id take one of the above firearms over the can of bear spray i was fiddling for at the bottom of my camp equipment any day lol.
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Yes, forgive me - but black bears can be deadly in predatory mode as well.
This is what I was dealing with.

Bear.JPG

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BarnBuster

BarnBuster

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Link to old issues of Guns magazine when Elmer Keith was writing a column:
gunsmagazine.com

GUNS Magazine Classic Editions

Download A PDF Of These Classic GUNS Magazine Issues From 1955 To 1972. Check Back Each Month For A New Issue These are large files that may take a few mi
gunsmagazine.com gunsmagazine.com

and here's a link to some of his American Rifleman and Guns and Ammo articles:

Elmer Keith Memorial Website|Guns and Ammo Archives

Elmer Keith Guns and Ammo Archives
www.elmerkeithshoot.org
 
BarnBuster

BarnBuster

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www.cbsnews.com

Justice Department moves to close "gun show loophole"

If approved, the proposed rule would expand background check requirements to cover more sellers.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
www.whitehouse.gov

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Takes Another Life-Saving Step to Keep Guns Out of Dangerous Hands | The White House

In March, President Biden signed an Executive Order directing the Attorney General to move as close to universal background checks as possible within
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

 
GreatwhiteNorth

GreatwhiteNorth

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BarnBuster said:
www.cbsnews.com

Justice Department moves to close "gun show loophole"

If approved, the proposed rule would expand background check requirements to cover more sellers.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
www.whitehouse.gov

FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Takes Another Life-Saving Step to Keep Guns Out of Dangerous Hands | The White House

In March, President Biden signed an Executive Order directing the Attorney General to move as close to universal background checks as possible within
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov

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All I had to read was "life-saving step" to know where it came from.
 
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