TRUMP CONVICTED

Observe & Report

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Lots of "people" are saying that there is no way Trump will receive a prison sentence if convicted. I think they are wrong.

The judges know that all eyes are on them. If he is convicted he will receive a middle-of-the-road sentence under the federal guidelines or a typical sentence in state court for a defendant with no prior convictions.

His only hope to avoid jail/prison is endless mistrials from juries hung by a magatroid. I doubt it will pan out for him, he is going to get at least one felony conviction.
 

Herb & Suds

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Lots of "people" are saying that there is no way Trump will receive a prison sentence if convicted. I think they are wrong.

The judges know that all eyes are on them. If he is convicted he will receive a middle-of-the-road sentence under the federal guidelines or a typical sentence in state court for a defendant with no prior convictions.

His only hope to avoid jail/prison is endless mistrials from juries hung by a magatroid. I doubt it will pan out for him, he is going to get at least one felony conviction.
The Georgia case is where he should be scared with a mandatory minimum of five years if proven guilty
I hope jurors are truly honest
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Lots of "people" are saying that there is no way Trump will receive a prison sentence if convicted. I think they are wrong.

The judges know that all eyes are on them. If he is convicted he will receive a middle-of-the-road sentence under the federal guidelines or a typical sentence in state court for a defendant with no prior convictions.

His only hope to avoid jail/prison is endless mistrials from juries hung by a magatroid. I doubt it will pan out for him, he is going to get at least one felony conviction.
He will be convicted with others that he was in conspiracies with, what will happen to them? Normally as the kingpin of such a criminal enterprise Trump would get triple the sentence. There is also computer crime involved in Georgia and that carries hefty time and was a conspiracy. So, sending everybody else to prison and Donald to some form of house arrest federally is off the table. The feds will get his ass before Georgia, and it is up to the BOP where he does his time, and it would be cheaper and easier for the SS to guard him in a cell. For Trump to be treated differently than anybody else Garland would have to intervene and other than a special facility or a wing in an existing one for security purposes, he gets a cell like everybody else. Donald will also need to be kept in a maximum-security facility, he has a large domestic terrorist following and it would be required for staff safety.

I would expect congress to change the law around this if the democrats gain power and if someone is convicted of a federal crime and is doing time, they lose their SS protection and other federal employees, the prison guards, take over.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I see a lot of popcorn in my future...
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We are in the "entertainment" phase now and have a ringside seat to the crucifixion of Cheeto Jesus. All I can say is I hope he doesn't die from the stress and gets a chance to do some time in a cell and get his picture taken in orange as he's purp walked into a Georgia courtroom next year on TV. He will have 2 J6 trials, state and federal at the same time and they will be tag teaming the fucker till he goes down. :lol: We know the end, but it's fun to watch him squirm and squeal on the cross. I think Jack will go first though and he could have Donald in an orange jumpsuit in time for his Georgia TV trial. The Georgia trial is on TV and will be the most important from a political and even historic POV because the video of the trial will live forever, and the highlights will be replayed on the news endlessly. The public won't see Trump's federal trials, but they will fucking well see the one on TV, coverage will be wall to wall and the internet full of video clips.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This suggests that it’s not really mandatory; judge has discretion
We will see what the Georgia judge says, seems he is less experienced than Cannon, let's hope he's smarter. It will hardly matter since Trump will be doing his federal time first anyway and that will keep him busy until he's taken out in a bag. The federal and state cases are so similar and deal with many of the same events and witnesses, so I imagine they are feeding off each other and will tag team Donald.
 

cannabineer

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We will see what the Georgia judge says, seems he is less experienced than Cannon, let's hope he's smarter. It will hardly matter since Trump will be doing his federal time first anyway and that will keep him busy until he's taken out in a bag. The federal and state cases are so similar and deal with many of the same events and witnesses, so I imagine they are feeding off each other and will tag team Donald.
“Smarter than [Loose] Cannon” is a very low bar.

What works in favor of Judge N00b is that, even though he was appointed by a Republican, it was not by defendant.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump LOSES IT ALL with Dysfunctional Strategy

167,853 views Aug 15, 2023
Michael Popok of Legal AF reports that Trump has now reached the dreaded “inversion” where he is spending about $10-15 million a month, much more on monthly Attorney’s fees for his former and current employees and himself for all his criminal and civil cases than he is bringing in monthly from donors, draining the coffers of his campaign, bankrupting his Save America pac, and forcing him to start using his own money.
 

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Dershowitz predicts ‘there will be some convictions’ after fourth Trump indictment
Former Trump lawyer Alan Dershowitz said Tuesday he predicts “there will be some convictions,” in former President Trump’s four criminal cases, which he expects will all take place before the 2024 presidential election.

“I predict there’ll be some convictions,” Dershowitz said during an appearance on “Bannon’s War Room,” a podcast hosted by former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon. “I think the strategy is to get bad convictions, but to get them fast in New York and Florida, in Washington, and in Fulton County.”

Dershowitz argued these convictions will be reversed, but not until after the election.

“The whole ‘get Trump’ approach is to get him before the election, convict him before the election, and then he wins on appeal,” Dershowitz said.

A grand jury in Georgia indicted Trump and 18 co-defendants Monday night, marking the former president’s fourth indictment this year. These latest charges stem from Trump and his allies’ efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) led a more than two-year probe into Trump’s attempts to intervene with the election results and alleged organization of a group of 16 Georgia residents to serve as fake electors and claim he won the state, instead of Biden.

In a press conference Monday night, Willis said she hopes to schedule a single trial for all the defendants within the next six months.

Trump’s threeother criminal trials are all likely to start within the first half of 2024. His trial in New York state court over alleged hush money payments is scheduled for March 25 while the classified documents trial is slated to start May 20 in federal court.

Earlier this month, a federal grand jury handed down an indictment of Trump related to his efforts to remain in power after the 2020 election. The Department of Justice asked Federal District Court Judge Tanya S. Chutkan to set a Jan. 2, 2024 trial start date, though an official date has not been date.

Dershowitz also pointed to an apparent document that Reuters reported was posted on the Fulton County court’s website Monday, which indicated several criminal charges against Trump. In a clarification post, Reuters said the document was taken down “without explanation.”

“The fact that they were willing to put the indictment on the website before the grand jurors voted, proves something that any of us who have had experience in criminal law know – the grand jury is meaningless,” Dershowitz said.

“They [the grand jury] rubber stamp something that the prosecutor put before them and the best evidence is the prosecutor was so confident, she was willing to put it on her website even before the vote took place,” he continued.

The Fulton County, Ga. Court clerk’s office called the mystery document “fictitious,” without providing any details on how the document ended up on the court’s website.
 

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Meadows asks for Georgia charges to shift to federal court
Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows is seeking to move his charges in the Georgia 2020 case to federal court, where he plans to ask a judge to dismiss the case.

“Mr. Meadows is entitled to remove this action to federal court because the charges against him plausibly give rise to a federal defense based on his role at all relevant times as the White House Chief of Staff to the President of the United States,” attorneys for Meadows wrote in the Tuesday filing in the Northern District of Georgia.

Meadows was charged with two counts Monday in a sprawling indictment following an investigation from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D).

Meadows faces charges under the state’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations statute, along with former President Trump and 17 other co-defendants.

He also faces charges for soliciting an official to violate their oath of office — a nod to his presence on the call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) in which the former president asked the secretary to “find” additional votes for him.

In the Tuesday filing, Meadows also denied any wrongdoing in aiding Trump as he sought to reverse his 2020 election loss in the state.

“Nothing Mr. Meadows is alleged in the indictment to have done is criminal per se: arranging Oval Office meetings, contacting state officials on the President’s behalf, visiting a state government building, and setting up a phone call for the President. One would expect a Chief of Staff to the President of the United States to do these sorts of things,” the filing states.

“This is precisely the kind of state interference in a federal official’s duties that the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution prohibits.”

The Supremacy Clause establishes that federal law takes precedence over state ones and prohibits states from interfering with constitutional powers bestowed upon the federal government. In the filing, Meadows claimed immunity from legal actions under the clause.

The indictment alleged he pressured state legislators in key swing states, as well as Georgia election officials. It also notes his visit to Georgia in December 2020, when he attempted to to watch a signature match audit being performed.

Meadows was ordered by a federal judge last year to speak before the Georgia special grand jury. The former chief of staff has been largely off the grid since the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack, from which damning testimony about his actions that day emerged.

Some have speculated he has cooperated with special counsel Jack Smith’s federal investigation into Trump’s efforts to stay in power after losing the 2020 election. He has not been identified as a possible co-conspirator in that case.
 

MickFoster

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As much as I'd like to see the "orange traitor" rotting in a jail cell as soon as possible..........I hope he gets the GOP nomination and the 4 trials are delayed until after next years election.
It will guarantee a Dem win. He can't win an election........he's already lost the two elections he's been involved in.........the last one by nearly 8 million votes. Biden is not well liked by republicans, and even though they hate trump, they won't vote for Biden. And most democrats would prefer another candidate.........younger. I don't think Biden can win if another republican other than trump runs against him. Trump hasn't gained any new supporters since 2020. If anything, he has lost republican supporters, and many independents. If all of the dems that voted in 2020, vote in 2024..........it will be a Dem landslide.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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As much as I'd like to see the "orange traitor" rotting in a jail cell as soon as possible..........I hope he gets the GOP nomination and the 4 trials are delayed until after next years election.
It will guarantee a Dem win. He can't win an election........he's already lost the two elections he's been involved in.........the last one by nearly 8 million votes. Biden is not well liked by republicans, and even though they hate trump, they won't vote for Biden. And most democrats would prefer another candidate.........younger. I don't think Biden can win if another republican other than trump runs against him. Trump hasn't gained any new supporters since 2020. If anything, he has lost republican supporters, and many independents. If all of the dems that voted in 2020, vote in 2024..........it will be a Dem landslide.
The election is not until late next year and the primaries begin early in 24, Trump will be on trial during the GOP primaries over J6. Nobody is mentioning the 14th amendment yet except two conservative federalist's legal scholars. I believe the never Trumper republicans will use the 14th before the state primaries to keep Trump off the primary ballot in their state. Trump will likely be convicted over J6 by the convention in 24 so if the establishment republicans want to be rid of him that is how they will do it. If he wins the primary and the GOP doesn't kill his nomination by the convention using the 14th amendment, the democrats will disqualify him before the election begins and have him removed from the ballot nationwide. The republicans will either clean their own house or the democrats will do it for them. No conviction is required for the 14th, but Trump will have one over J6 well before the election.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump is indicted in Georgia for RICO conspiracy for trying to steal the 2020 presidential election

5,315 views Aug 15, 2023 #TeamJustice
Former president Donald Trump has been indicted for the fourth time. A Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury indicted Donald Trump and 18 of his co-coconspirators for multiple crimes committed as part of a conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.

This video discusses some of the highlights and implications of this new mega indictment.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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As much as I'd like to see the "orange traitor" rotting in a jail cell as soon as possible..........I hope he gets the GOP nomination and the 4 trials are delayed until after next years election.
It will guarantee a Dem win. He can't win an election........he's already lost the two elections he's been involved in.........the last one by nearly 8 million votes. Biden is not well liked by republicans, and even though they hate trump, they won't vote for Biden. And most democrats would prefer another candidate.........younger. I don't think Biden can win if another republican other than trump runs against him. Trump hasn't gained any new supporters since 2020. If anything, he has lost republican supporters, and many independents. If all of the dems that voted in 2020, vote in 2024..........it will be a Dem landslide.
It’s a possibility. It’s not gonna matter tho, cuz Trumps gonna be in jail. There he will be in a Jeffery Epstein situation ……where he will magically….disappear………
 

Bad Karma

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It’s a possibility. It’s not gonna matter tho, cuz Trumps gonna be in jail. There he will be in a Jeffery Epstein situation ……where he will magically….disappear………
I mentioned this a while ago, too, if Donnie gets locked in a cell at any point, he gets Epsteined. Too many important people have too much to lose if he tries taking them all down with him during the trial and they all know he will do it, too.
Enjoy the red scarf, Donnie, it will match your tie.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump 'doesn't have excuse to delay' surrender at arraignment Fri. Aug. 25 by 5 pm Katie Phang says

14,210 views Aug 15, 2023 #msnbc #trump #giuliani
Donald Trump is not alone in this latest sweeping indictment. He is among 19 people charged in the Fulton County investigation. For many in Trump’s orbit, this is the first time their efforts have brought charges alongside Trump -- including Trump’s former personal attorney Rudy Giuliani and his former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Trial attorney Katie Phang, host of MSNBC’s ‘The Katie Phang Show,’ joins us from Atlanta with more.
 
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