Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 28.0%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 26.1%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 72 45.9%
  • Total voters
    157
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Instape

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printer said:
Not appearing and "X" says to log in, sorry, not getting an account.
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This happens to me on every "X" link on Rollitup,
on other sites I get to read the single post quoted,
unlike before when I could read the whole linked thread.

Not getting an account either.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Instape said:
This happens to me on every "X" link on Rollitup,
on other sites I get to read the single post quoted,
unlike before when I could read the whole linked thread.

Not getting an account either.
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I don't have an X account either, but sign in using my google account and will switch to another platform when one gets big enough, perhaps threads. Twitter/X is full of Russian propaganda and fascist bullshit these days and Elon is an asshole.
 
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Instape

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I don't have an X account either, but sign in using my google account and will switch to another platform when one gets big enough, perhaps threads. Twitter/X is full of Russian propaganda and fascist bullshit these days and Elon is an asshole.
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I don't trust Google either,
Maybe I'm a paranoid stoner/old fashioned:bigjoint:
 
Sativied

Sativied

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cannabineer said:
It does,
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In that case, I am from the future and 126 years old (edit: and every other claim becomes truth too).

Let’s assume DIY’s statement is true.
  1. We know that DIY does not have an X account, as it has been assumed to be true.
  2. Therefore, the two-part statement "DIY does not have an X account or Sativied is from the future and 126" must also be true, since the first part "DIY does not have an X account" of the two-part statement is true.
  3. However, we know that DIY does have an X account (which he signs in to with google)" so the first part is false, and hence the second part must be true to ensure the two-part statement to be true, i.e., I am from the future and 126 years old.
Of course, plenty of reasons to allow users to sign in with Google or Apple account, one of the best is illustrated by DIY‘s comment: people don’t have to create a separate account… however, that’s just perception from the user’s point of view. To show why it doesn’t compute, the complete sentence would ‘technically‘ be:

I don't have an X account either, but sign [into my X account] using my google account.

It uses Google account to identify and authenticate, it’s not actually a substitute for the account at X. The initial button isn’t misleading either, it’s “Sign Up” with Google, as in sign up for an X account to which you can automatically sign in with your google account’s credentials.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sativied said:
In that case, I am from the future and 126 years old (edit: and every other claim becomes truth too).

Let’s assume DIY’s statement is true.
  1. We know that DIY does not have an X account, as it has been assumed to be true.
  2. Therefore, the two-part statement "DIY does not have an X account or Sativied is from the future and 126" must also be true, since the first part "DIY does not have an X account" of the two-part statement is true.
  3. However, we know that DIY does have an X account (which he signs in to with google)" so the first part is false, and hence the second part must be true to ensure the two-part statement to be true, i.e., I am from the future and 126 years old.
Of course, plenty of reasons to allow users to sign in with Google or Apple account, one of the best is illustrated by DIY‘s comment: people don’t have to create a separate account… however, that’s just perception from the user’s point of view. To show why it doesn’t compute, the complete sentence would ‘technically‘ be:

I don't have an X account either, but sign [into my X account] using my google account.

It uses Google account to identify and authenticate, it’s not actually a substitute for the account at X. The initial button isn’t misleading either, it’s “Sign Up” with Google, as in sign up for an X account to which you can automatically sign in with your google account’s credentials.
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I yield to your logic, which is undeniable.

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Though the impulse to ask you for securities investment advice is strong, Methuselah.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Sativied said:
In that case, I am from the future and 126 years old (edit: and every other claim becomes truth too).

Let’s assume DIY’s statement is true.
  1. We know that DIY does not have an X account, as it has been assumed to be true.
  2. Therefore, the two-part statement "DIY does not have an X account or Sativied is from the future and 126" must also be true, since the first part "DIY does not have an X account" of the two-part statement is true.
  3. However, we know that DIY does have an X account (which he signs in to with google)" so the first part is false, and hence the second part must be true to ensure the two-part statement to be true, i.e., I am from the future and 126 years old.
Of course, plenty of reasons to allow users to sign in with Google or Apple account, one of the best is illustrated by DIY‘s comment: people don’t have to create a separate account… however, that’s just perception from the user’s point of view. To show why it doesn’t compute, the complete sentence would ‘technically‘ be:

I don't have an X account either, but sign [into my X account] using my google account.

It uses Google account to identify and authenticate, it’s not actually a substitute for the account at X. The initial button isn’t misleading either, it’s “Sign Up” with Google, as in sign up for an X account to which you can automatically sign in with your google account’s credentials.
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Lots of online services use Google or apple sign in to verify identity, Twitter is not unique in this. How much data they share does not concern me much since your life is an open book online anyway. Privacy is a relatively new concept, when we all lived in villages and extended families there was no privacy. Protection from big data and a future AI that could use it to play ya like a violin for sure, but that is a government matter.
 
HGCC

HGCC

Well-Known Member
Sativied said:
In that case, I am from the future and 126 years old (edit: and every other claim becomes truth too).

Let’s assume DIY’s statement is true.
  1. We know that DIY does not have an X account, as it has been assumed to be true.
  2. Therefore, the two-part statement "DIY does not have an X account or Sativied is from the future and 126" must also be true, since the first part "DIY does not have an X account" of the two-part statement is true.
  3. However, we know that DIY does have an X account (which he signs in to with google)" so the first part is false, and hence the second part must be true to ensure the two-part statement to be true, i.e., I am from the future and 126 years old.
Of course, plenty of reasons to allow users to sign in with Google or Apple account, one of the best is illustrated by DIY‘s comment: people don’t have to create a separate account… however, that’s just perception from the user’s point of view. To show why it doesn’t compute, the complete sentence would ‘technically‘ be:

I don't have an X account either, but sign [into my X account] using my google account.

It uses Google account to identify and authenticate, it’s not actually a substitute for the account at X. The initial button isn’t misleading either, it’s “Sign Up” with Google, as in sign up for an X account to which you can automatically sign in with your google account’s credentials.
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This reminded me of doing "proofs" in philosophy. Logic and ethics were my jam for several years in college.

X is a stupid name arrived at by a stupid person.
 
Sativied

Sativied

Well-Known Member
DIY-HP-LED said:
Lots of online services use Google or apple sign in to verify identity, Twitter is not unique in this. How much data they share does not concern me much since your life is an open book online anyway. Privacy is a relatively new concept, when we all lived in villages and extended families there was no privacy. Protection from big data and a future AI that could use it to play ya like a violin for sure, but that is a government matter.
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No major disagreement with any of that, I was merely saying you do have a twitter/x account.

HGCC said:
This reminded me of doing "proofs" in philosophy. Logic and ethics were my jam for several years in college.
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Principle of explosion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
GenericEnigma

GenericEnigma

Well-Known Member
cannabineer said:
It does, if Google quietly slips Moloch some tasty market-quality data from your Google account. G probably has a permission mechanism, but it probably is neither visible nor clear, and defaults to “sell all my data all the time” or something.
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This tracks.

I got a message from Google asking for an evaluation of their services and if I approve of them not sharing information from the bodies of emails. I responded honestly, including placing in the comment section that I don't believe them for one second.

It's well known that they use that data for themselves, tailoring packages of information to sell to advertisers. Do they actually sell your emails? No (at least that is the current claim). But I fail to see a real difference.

And I doubt Moloch is particularly choosy about where it gets its money.
www.theguardian.com

How private is your Gmail, and should you switch?

You might be surprised how much Google’s email service – and others – know about you
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Milk, meat and power too, this might be a good business for some ranchers and farmers, or shepherds who can contract with utilities, they just need to raise the panels high enough for the critters to get under them for food and shade.

pv-magazine-usa.com

The economics of solar grazing

A survey conducted by researchers at the University of Illinois, combined with prior research, details what solar grazers have purchased when building out their businesses and what they earn. Additional documentation highlights complex grazing business plans on large utility-scale solar facilities.
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