MickFoster
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I'm sure judge cunt will see that doesn't happen.
TRUMP CONVICTED
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Phytoplankton
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As someone who worked in security in a classified environment for 30 years (and took a 30+ year break from the herb), I can say that Trumps actions are appalling. Willful disclosure of classified by showing it or discussing it with uncleared persons is a crime, period! Storage of classified in an unapproved area is a crime. Classified must be stored in either a GSA approved safe or an alarmed Vault, or Vault type room, that applies to Confidential and Secret information. Top Secret documents are "accountable" (must be inventoried yearly) and have more stringent storage requirements. He cannot simply declassify information "by thinking about it", there is a slew of paperwork that has to be done, and concurrence from the agency that classified the document must be obtained. I was a derivative classifier, had a TS clearance with Sigma's 1-20 (except sigma14). The only thing I couldn't do was "original classification" (classification without a guidance document, there's probably less than 100 people who have that authority). I also had hand carry authority (ability to move documents outside of classified areas). There are very detailed rules for wrapping and storage when hand carrying, to the point of if when boarding a plane if TSA wanted to see what was in the package, I had to call an FBI agent, who would perform the search, not TSA. When I got to my hotel room with a package I could not keep it overnight, I had to take it to a secure facility where it was locked up and I'd pick it up in the morning.
Offmymeds
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I had to see the indictment for myself to see if that was real. What a poke in the eye! They have nailed him.
Offmymeds
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Trump's big mouth used as evidence again. Further on in the indictment after describing how he showed classified information to reporters and to the PAC rep:
36. On February 16, 2017, four years before TRUMP’s disclosures of classified information set forth above, TRUMP said at a press conference: The first thing I thought of when I heard about it is, how does the press get this information that’s classified? How do they do it? You know why? Because it’s an illegal process, and the press should be ashamed of themselves. But more importantly, the people that gave out the information to the press should be ashamed of themselves. Really ashamed.
36. On February 16, 2017, four years before TRUMP’s disclosures of classified information set forth above, TRUMP said at a press conference: The first thing I thought of when I heard about it is, how does the press get this information that’s classified? How do they do it? You know why? Because it’s an illegal process, and the press should be ashamed of themselves. But more importantly, the people that gave out the information to the press should be ashamed of themselves. Really ashamed.
BudmanTX
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they still have 2 more to go....Georgia and J6....
Roger A. Shrubber
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i realize he couldn't have, but this statement, minus the indictments, made a year ago, would have saved a lot of people a lot of sleepless nights.
Roger A. Shrubber
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yes, and he should stand for each one, but this will be enough to take him out of the game for the rest of his life...
Now go after the freedumb carcass assholes.
BudmanTX
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and he will...just takes time...and you gotta dot your "I"s and cross those "T"s
he's still gonna run...but he's gonna spend more time in the court house than on the campaign trail
and those freedumb assholes are gonna take a hit with a possible conspiracy charge in J6 one...or at least that's my guess.....MTG and the rest of those asshats are already on shaky ground as it is...
cannabineer
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DIY-HP-LED
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A chandelier in the shitter, no gold toilet but plenty of classified reading material while taking a shit.
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Donald Trump stored, showed off and refused to return classified documents, indictment says
Donald Trump improperly stored in his Florida estate sensitive documents on nuclear capabilities, repeatedly enlisted aides and lawyers to help him hide records demanded by investigators and cavalierly showed off a Pentagon “plan of attack” and classified map. That's according to a sweeping...
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compassionateExotic
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Hoarder lol
Offmymeds
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C'mon! Let me have a little hope.
compassionateExotic
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”THEY’RE NOT COMING AFTER ME, THEY’RE COMING AFTER YOU—I’M JUST STANDING IN THEIR WAY!”
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printer
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Trump's '24 GOP Rivals Rebuke DOJ, Not Him After Documents Indictment
Donald Trump's main rivals for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination condemned the Justice Department for its move to charge him over his handling of classified documents, underscoring their fear of upsetting his core supporters.
The indictment of a former president on federal charges is unprecedented in U.S. history, a case made more extraordinary by Trump's status as the clear front-runner in the Republican race to challenge Democratic President Joe Biden next year.
Instead of using the indictment to undermine Trump's bid for the White House, however, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, U.S. Senator Tim Scott and Nikki Haley were among the candidates accusing the Justice Department of political bias, highlighting a stance that has become central to many of their own campaigns.
All sounded in before the indictment was unsealed on Friday afternoon, revealing detailed allegations that Trump had mishandled documents containing some of the country's most sensitive security secrets and obstructed the probe.
"The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society," DeSantis, who is running a distant second behind Trump in the polls, wrote on Twitter. "We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law depending upon political affiliation.
Republicans have alleged, without evidence, that the Trump indictment is a politically motivated move by Biden. The Justice Department says all investigative decisions are made without regard to partisan politics, and has handed the investigation to a special counsel who was appointed in an effort to add a degree of independence to such a politically sensitive probe.
The 37-count indictment against Trump accused him of mishandling classified documents that included information about the secretive U.S. nuclear program and potential domestic vulnerabilities in the event of an attack. It also alleged that Trump discussed with his lawyers the possibility of lying to government officials seeking to recover the materials.
President Joe Biden, who is facing his own review over his handling of classified documents, reflecting the tightrope he must walk in dealing with a prosecution into his main political rival, said on Friday he had not spoken to Attorney General Merrick Garland about the case.
"I have not spoken to him at all and I’m not going to speak with him," Biden said, distancing himself from the investigation into his political rival.
Former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, a long-shot Republican candidate, was the sole rival so far to outright criticize Trump. Hutchinson called on him to end his campaign, arguing that Trump had flouted the Constitution and shown a "disrespect for the rule of law."
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who this week blasted Trump as he announced his own 2024 bid, said he wanted to see the details of the indictment before weighing in.
By and large, however, the challengers came to Trump's defense, perhaps mindful of how Trump's March indictment in New York over an alleged hush money payment to a porn star was seen by many Republicans as politically charged and only served to rally support to his side.
Trump's support has held steady through many other lawsuits and scandals but the serious charges laid out against him on Friday could give his Republican rivals ammunition to attack his record, especially on national security.
Chuck Coughlin, a longtime consultant for Republicans in Arizona, said the cumulative effect of criminal charges will begin to take its toll on Trump's base, which is thought to make up 30% of the Republican electorate.
Trump is also under investigation in Georgia for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election in the state, and faces a separate federal probe into his alleged role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by his supporters.
If the indictments pile up, Coughlin predicts the other Republican candidates will start to argue that Trump cannot win the general election.
"There's got to be a fatigue factor there," Coughlin said.
RIVALS ECHO TRUMP'S RHETORIC
In the meantime, Trump's rivals are adopting his rhetoric against the Justice Department, accusing federal prosecutors of singling out Republicans, even as they cheer on a federal investigation into Biden's son, Hunter, over tax-related issues since 2018. The president's son has denied wrong-doing.
Scott, who is polling in the single digits, criticized what he also called the "weaponization" of federal prosecutors.
"Today what we see is a justice system where the scales are weighted," he said in an interview on Fox News late on Thursday.
Vivek Ramaswamy, a venture capitalist also considered a long shot for the Republican nomination, accused the Justice Department of unfairly targeting Trump and vowed to pardon him if elected.
Haley, U.N. ambassador under Trump, said Americans were "exhausted by the prosecutorial overreach," but also hinted at the chaos surrounding Trump.
"It's time to move beyond the endless drama and distractions," Haley wrote on Twitter on Friday.
In New Hampshire on Friday Pence said he was "deeply troubled" by the indictment, believing it would further divide the country. He added, however, that the American public should review the facts of the case and make their own judgment.
Having the trial in front of a Trump Judge should take away some hurt feelings once he is found guilty in his home state.
Donald Trump's main rivals for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination condemned the Justice Department for its move to charge him over his handling of classified documents, underscoring their fear of upsetting his core supporters.
The indictment of a former president on federal charges is unprecedented in U.S. history, a case made more extraordinary by Trump's status as the clear front-runner in the Republican race to challenge Democratic President Joe Biden next year.
Instead of using the indictment to undermine Trump's bid for the White House, however, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, U.S. Senator Tim Scott and Nikki Haley were among the candidates accusing the Justice Department of political bias, highlighting a stance that has become central to many of their own campaigns.
All sounded in before the indictment was unsealed on Friday afternoon, revealing detailed allegations that Trump had mishandled documents containing some of the country's most sensitive security secrets and obstructed the probe.
"The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society," DeSantis, who is running a distant second behind Trump in the polls, wrote on Twitter. "We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law depending upon political affiliation.
Republicans have alleged, without evidence, that the Trump indictment is a politically motivated move by Biden. The Justice Department says all investigative decisions are made without regard to partisan politics, and has handed the investigation to a special counsel who was appointed in an effort to add a degree of independence to such a politically sensitive probe.
The 37-count indictment against Trump accused him of mishandling classified documents that included information about the secretive U.S. nuclear program and potential domestic vulnerabilities in the event of an attack. It also alleged that Trump discussed with his lawyers the possibility of lying to government officials seeking to recover the materials.
President Joe Biden, who is facing his own review over his handling of classified documents, reflecting the tightrope he must walk in dealing with a prosecution into his main political rival, said on Friday he had not spoken to Attorney General Merrick Garland about the case.
"I have not spoken to him at all and I’m not going to speak with him," Biden said, distancing himself from the investigation into his political rival.
Former Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson, a long-shot Republican candidate, was the sole rival so far to outright criticize Trump. Hutchinson called on him to end his campaign, arguing that Trump had flouted the Constitution and shown a "disrespect for the rule of law."
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who this week blasted Trump as he announced his own 2024 bid, said he wanted to see the details of the indictment before weighing in.
By and large, however, the challengers came to Trump's defense, perhaps mindful of how Trump's March indictment in New York over an alleged hush money payment to a porn star was seen by many Republicans as politically charged and only served to rally support to his side.
Trump's support has held steady through many other lawsuits and scandals but the serious charges laid out against him on Friday could give his Republican rivals ammunition to attack his record, especially on national security.
Chuck Coughlin, a longtime consultant for Republicans in Arizona, said the cumulative effect of criminal charges will begin to take its toll on Trump's base, which is thought to make up 30% of the Republican electorate.
Trump is also under investigation in Georgia for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election in the state, and faces a separate federal probe into his alleged role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by his supporters.
If the indictments pile up, Coughlin predicts the other Republican candidates will start to argue that Trump cannot win the general election.
"There's got to be a fatigue factor there," Coughlin said.
RIVALS ECHO TRUMP'S RHETORIC
In the meantime, Trump's rivals are adopting his rhetoric against the Justice Department, accusing federal prosecutors of singling out Republicans, even as they cheer on a federal investigation into Biden's son, Hunter, over tax-related issues since 2018. The president's son has denied wrong-doing.
Scott, who is polling in the single digits, criticized what he also called the "weaponization" of federal prosecutors.
"Today what we see is a justice system where the scales are weighted," he said in an interview on Fox News late on Thursday.
Vivek Ramaswamy, a venture capitalist also considered a long shot for the Republican nomination, accused the Justice Department of unfairly targeting Trump and vowed to pardon him if elected.
Haley, U.N. ambassador under Trump, said Americans were "exhausted by the prosecutorial overreach," but also hinted at the chaos surrounding Trump.
"It's time to move beyond the endless drama and distractions," Haley wrote on Twitter on Friday.
In New Hampshire on Friday Pence said he was "deeply troubled" by the indictment, believing it would further divide the country. He added, however, that the American public should review the facts of the case and make their own judgment.
Having the trial in front of a Trump Judge should take away some hurt feelings once he is found guilty in his home state.
compassionateExotic
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Offmymeds
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The 4 Republicans & 4 Dems in the Gang of Eight got details on the serious nature of the documents in all 3 cases (Trump, Biden, and Pence) in the middle of April. McCarthy, McConnell, Rubio, and Turner have known for weeks that this was a very serious breach of national security.
Here's Rubio - Rudio told The Daily Signal that “the harm, whatever harm was created by documents being stored, be they in Biden’s garage or Mar-a-Lago or wherever, is far outweighed by the harm of bringing this indictment.” He knows trump had secret info on nuclear capabilities, the USA's vulnerabilities, troop movements, 5 Eyes intel, etc. The sleaze isn't interested in protecting us. He's interested in protecting himself and his power.