Is Biden really that bad?

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PJ Diaz

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i think it depends upon who is doing the defining. The radical right says anything to their left start at socialist and quickly degrade into communist and marxists...of course, they don't know what any of those terms mean, but that is how they define it.
Middle of the road folks think that mtg, bobo, gatez, biggs et al, are too far to the right, and those same folks are probably a little put off by Bernie and Ilhan Omar, albeit for different reasons, but mainly because they approach socialism.
While the closest thing you get to a radical left in this country is Bernie and Omar and Jayapal, who aren't even socialist, the far right would call them socialist at least...again, with no real idea of the terms actual definition.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.

just to avoid confusion...
The US is a mixed economy, not true capitalism.
 

Herb & Suds

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i think it depends upon who is doing the defining. The radical right says anything to their left start at socialist and quickly degrade into communist and marxists...of course, they don't know what any of those terms mean, but that is how they define it.
Middle of the road folks think that mtg, bobo, gatez, biggs et al, are too far to the right, and those same folks are probably a little put off by Bernie and Ilhan Omar, albeit for different reasons, but mainly because they approach socialism.
While the closest thing you get to a radical left in this country is Bernie and Omar and Jayapal, who aren't even socialist, the far right would call them socialist at least...again, with no real idea of the terms actual definition.

Socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Communism: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.

just to avoid confusion...
Thanks for the clarification but dehumanizing is the way to view your adversaries as not worthy of equality
And it has become the path the right is willing to go so they can target people and not view them as being worthy of the title fellow Americans
For me that is the scary part the January sixth episode showed they are willing to do what it takes to stop anything they don’t like
And the internet warriors believe they know how to identify us
They have been indoctrinated and either refuse to believe it or revel in it
I have never once thought I would ever have to bear arms against friends , family or neighbors but that moment is close
They biggest misnomer is that they have the weapons and ammunition
I am approached regularly by people who believe that anyone who looks like me is a fellow Trumper
That may just destroy America and the right feels they will win
When the reality is the country will lose
Even winning on the one single issue they have wanted for fifty years isn’t enough
For these people they believe playing all alpha will win the day
I know enough bad asses that will not let that happen but at that point our country will be irreparable
Even if you present a rational argument they resort to Whataboutism
Which is still just never give in
I have no idea how to stop them from going down the road they think they want to go down
And like abortion they have no clue what to do once the dog catches the car
We are in an unbelievably bad place when people will lay down their lives just to be self righteous
I truly wish I was wrong but flat earth believers will not even take yes for an answer
Pray I guess cause brainwashing is permanent
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Thanks for the clarification but dehumanizing is the way to view your adversaries as not worthy of equality
And it has become the path the right is willing to go so they can target people and not view them as being worthy of the title fellow Americans
For me that is the scary part the January sixth episode showed they are willing to do what it takes to stop anything they don’t like
And the internet warriors believe they know how to identify us
They have been indoctrinated and either refuse to believe it or revel in it
I have never once thought I would ever have to bear arms against friends , family or neighbors but that moment is close
They biggest misnomer is that they have the weapons and ammunition
I am approached regularly by people who believe that anyone who looks like me is a fellow Trumper
That may just destroy America and the right feels they will win
When the reality is the country will lose
Even winning on the one single issue they have wanted for fifty years isn’t enough
For these people they believe playing all alpha will win the day
I know enough bad asses that will not let that happen but at that point our country will be irreparable
Even if you present a rational argument they resort to Whataboutism
Which is still just never give in
I have no idea how to stop them from going down the road they think they want to go down
And like abortion they have no clue what to do once the dog catches the car
We are in an unbelievably bad place when people will lay down their lives just to be self righteous
I truly wish I was wrong but flat earth believers will not even take yes for an answer
Pray I guess cause brainwashing is permanent
the one activist thing you can do is vote.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Thanks for the clarification but dehumanizing is the way to view your adversaries as not worthy of equality
And it has become the path the right is willing to go so they can target people and not view them as being worthy of the title fellow Americans
For me that is the scary part the January sixth episode showed they are willing to do what it takes to stop anything they don’t like
And the internet warriors believe they know how to identify us
They have been indoctrinated and either refuse to believe it or revel in it
I have never once thought I would ever have to bear arms against friends , family or neighbors but that moment is close
They biggest misnomer is that they have the weapons and ammunition
I am approached regularly by people who believe that anyone who looks like me is a fellow Trumper
That may just destroy America and the right feels they will win
When the reality is the country will lose
Even winning on the one single issue they have wanted for fifty years isn’t enough
For these people they believe playing all alpha will win the day
I know enough bad asses that will not let that happen but at that point our country will be irreparable
Even if you present a rational argument they resort to Whataboutism
Which is still just never give in
I have no idea how to stop them from going down the road they think they want to go down
And like abortion they have no clue what to do once the dog catches the car
We are in an unbelievably bad place when people will lay down their lives just to be self righteous
I truly wish I was wrong but flat earth believers will not even take yes for an answer
Pray I guess cause brainwashing is permanent
the clarification wasn't really for you...i figured you got it.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Why be concerned about some Marxist socialist ?
And yeah I’m being kept wasted even when I asked not to be
I just deleted my post since I was worried people would take it the wrong way. I don't hate anyone just because they have different political views. I was honestly asking how long you were stuck in there, and trying to throw a little humor in there. That would suck. I've been to the hospital many times but never had to spend the night.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I thought it was a very dickish thing to say myself, I was asking to see why he’d post such a cruel thing about another member is all. No harm in asking imo

I apologize if you or anyone else took my question in a wrong perspective
I didnt like it either. It reads as a bit tonedeaf to me, but no worse really. But I credit him with deleting it. I’d rather reward a kind impulse … speaking for myself.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I was kinda wondering about @Herb & Suds post myself. It looked like some modern poetry or something. The quote in question was the kind of thing you would say to your buddy, and it would be taken all in jest, but when people want to read something else into things, they invariably will.
This is a weed site. I thought drugs were good, :eyesmoke:
The dude really is in the hospital, and I really do hope his ankle heals good. He may be a lefty, but he's still a loadie, :bigjoint:
 

schuylaar

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No man, these are a bunch of middle of the road people. A solid half of the people yall view as the leftist woke mob or whatever voted for Bush. They just believe the world is round, so no longer have a place within the republican party.

Who even knows what is considered left anymore, like who defines it and how.
Federalist Society members within The Supremes.
 
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