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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It would help their cause if they made sense, on at least a superficial level.
The trouble is that they make sense in a dishonest sort of way. On a Venn diagram, making sense and being true overlap but not completely. They make enough sense that there are consumers for their tripe , as the alerts on my post demonstrate.

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sweetisland2009

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And rand paul remains a fucking douchebag piece of shit...too bad his neighbor didn't beat the fuck out of him a lot worse
So you’re advocating violence against elected officials in one post while crying about “insurrection” and “violence” in countless other posts in multiple threads.

Just searching your username and those two keywords paints a picture of a seriously paranoid and dangerous personality. Even your ally’s like @Fogdog and @cannabineer have been taken aback by your extremism in a few posts. I kind of feel bad for you, but also wonder if you’re on some kind of watchlist. Or how long you’d actually last in a physical dispute.

Rand Paul is pro cannabis reform and everything he’s said about gain of function research with time has turned out true.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
So you’re advocating violence against elected officials in one post while crying about “insurrection” and “violence” in countless other posts in multiple threads.

Just searching your username and those two keywords paints a picture of a seriously paranoid and dangerous personality. Even your ally’s like @Fogdog and @cannabineer have been taken aback by your extremism in a few posts. I kind of feel bad for you, but also wonder if you’re on some kind of watchlist. Or how long you’d actually last in a physical dispute.

Rand Paul is pro cannabis and everything he’s said about gain of function research with time has turned out true.
hey; at least he isn’t a totalibertarian.
 

sweetisland2009

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hey; at least he isn’t a totalibertarian.
I mean Rand is imperfect but I fail to see how his stances on the 1st and 4th amendments would have any cannabis proponent advocating for violence against him

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I mean Rand is imperfect but I fail to see how his stances on the 1st and 4th amendments would have any cannabis proponent advocating for violence against him
I don’t advocate violence, because indifference gets the job done.

(add) lol Reason. What an inapt name.
 
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Fogdog

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So you’re advocating violence against elected officials in one post while crying about “insurrection” and “violence” in countless other posts in multiple threads.

Just searching your username and those two keywords paints a picture of a seriously paranoid and dangerous personality. Even your ally’s like @Fogdog and @cannabineer have been taken aback by your extremism in a few posts. I kind of feel bad for you, but also wonder if you’re on some kind of watchlist. Or how long you’d actually last in a physical dispute.

Rand Paul is pro cannabis reform and everything he’s said about gain of function research with time has turned out true.
Shrubber is all tall. I asked him about it and we're good.

Rand Paul, on the other hand is a classist racist authoritarian who does not believe in equal rights for all and a tool of Putin.

I'm not sure if that answers the reason for mentioning me.
 
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sweetisland2009

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Shrubber is all tall. I asked him about it and we're good.

Rand Paul, on the other hand is a classis racist authoritarian who does not believe in equal rights for all and a tool of Putin.

I'm not sure if that answers the reason for mentioning me.
can you point to one example of Rand Paul being a racist? Or authoritarian? Or a tool for Putin?

edit: in scrolling there was a post where you essentially asked if he was serious about murdering half the population which I commend you for because it’s psycho. No matter how much you and I may disagree the only place we actually dual is at the voting booth
 

Fogdog

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can you point to one example of Rand Paul being a racist? Or authoritarian? Or a tool for Putin?

edit: in scrolling there was a post where you essentially asked if he was serious about murdering half the population which I commend you for because it’s psycho. No matter how much you and I may disagree the only place we actually dual is at the voting booth
Well starting off with the last, his ties to Putin run deep. For example one of his aides too the fall for him when he was found guilty of channeling Russian money into Republican campaigns.

He's a fucking libertarian of the US variety. That econimic philosophy values property over people and the very notion of libertarianism is about protecting property and the power it gives over others. It's completely about protecting economic classes. The end state of libertarian economics is endless rule by propertied classes, a form of aristocratic authoritarianism. Did you know that the founder of that BS ideology served fascists and outright denied the possibility of equality?

He outright said he opposed the Civil Rights Act. .Can't be more racist than that.
 

Fogdog

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I mean Rand is imperfect but I fail to see how his stances on the 1st and 4th amendments would have any cannabis proponent advocating for violence against him

Would you vote for Hitler if he said he'd legalize MJ? What kind of dupe would support a fascist like Rand Paul. just because he said he's for legalizing it? He's an effing Republican. THE ONLY party that openly supports the police state's war on MJ.
 

sweetisland2009

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Well starting off with the last, his ties to Putin run deep. For example one of his aides to the fall for him when he was found guilty of channeling Russian money into Republican campaigns.

(Jesse Benton’s personal dealings with the Russian citizen in question just doesn’t really mean anything in terms of Rand Paul somehow being a Russian asset. It’s a big reach/conspiracy theory and all of Rands other actions over the years, calling for peace/trade vs war speak much louder in terms of his character than what looks to be a pattern for Benton and his self service/ego/power grab tendencies.) do I worship Paul? No. Is his stance on Russia more favorable than others. Yes. But I don’t equate that to being “owned” by them. The war in Ukraine isn’t as cookie cutter as it’s made out to be and there is corruption to speak of from both parties. I think Putin is an egomaniac who is unpredictable and dangerous. I am not sure where more of our involvement leads long term even though I’m sort of for it and sort of against it. (I think Germany and Poland and the EU should have stepped up long before us)


He's a fucking libertarian of the US variety. That econimic philosophy values property over people and the very notion of libertarianism is about protecting property and the power it gives over others. It's completely about protecting economic classes. The end state of libertarian economics is endless rule by propertied classes, a form of aristocratic authoritarianism. Did you know that the founder of that BS ideology served fascists and outright denied the possibility of equality?

(I’m not sure what sect of libertarianism you’re referring to as I’ve never heard of it. The Paul’s are anti fascist by definition)


He outright said he opposed the Civil Rights Act. .Can't be more racist than that.

 

CANON_Grow

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I'll be honest, where COVID originated from is not something I'm concerned with, doesn't matter if it came from a wet market or a lab leak. The fact that it is circulating and mutating is what matters. For those that claim this is not as bad as the flu or it's even more mild than a cold, the ones that think they got over it unscathed, you may be fooling the person in the mirror but this virus doesn't give a shit. If you think youth and fitness is your saving grace, or think having gotten over it before is all the protection you need - you really should check this out and see for yourself. Lots of people in great shape couldn't beat this damn virus.
 

Fogdog

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Jesse Benton’s personal dealings with the Russian citizen in question just doesn’t really mean anything in terms of Rand Paul somehow being a Russian asset. It’s a big reach/conspiracy theory and all of Rands other actions over the years, calling for peace/trade vs war speak much louder in terms of his character than what looks to be a pattern for Benton and his self service/ego/power grab tendencies.) do I worship Paul? No. Is his stance on Russia more favorable than others. Yes. But I don’t equate that to being “owned” by them. The war in Ukraine isn’t as cookie cutter as it’s made out to be and there is corruption to speak of from both parties. I think Putin is an egomaniac who is unpredictable and dangerous. I am not sure where more of our involvement leads long term even though I’m sort of for it and sort of against it. (I think Germany and Poland and the EU should have stepped up long before us)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/11/17/benton-trump-russian-vasilenko-guilty/
He's a fucking libertarian of the US variety. That econimic philosophy values property over people and the very notion of libertarianism is about protecting property and the power it gives over others. It's completely about protecting economic classes. The end state of libertarian economics is endless rule by propertied classes, a form of aristocratic authoritarianism. Did you know that the founder of that BS ideology served fascists and outright denied the possibility of equality?

(I’m not sure what sect of libertarianism you’re referring to as I’ve never heard of it. The Paul’s are anti fascist by definition)

thenewamerican.com

Right or Wrong? Ron Paul Says America Is Turning to Fascism - The New American
Was Congressman Ron Paul right when he claimed in a speech to a Missouri audience February 18 that “we’re slipping into a fascist system”? by Thomas R. Eddlem
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He outright said he opposed the Civil Rights Act. .Can't be more racist than that.

www.cbsnews.com

Rand Paul: I Support the Civil Rights Act
Kentucky GOP Senate Candidate Rand Paul Disputes Claims he Wants to Repeal the Civil Rights Act
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When a man tells you who he is the first time, one should listen. In 2010, when asked the first time, he said he was opposed to the civil rights act.
So what if he later gave lip service to the CRA? What evidence exists to show he really did change his mind? He's never voted in a meaningful way to support it and in many instances he voted in ways that were detrimental to it. I'll just point at the SCOTUS judges he voted for. Every effing one of them are working to overturn it.

Jessie Benton was an aide that worked FOR Paul. Your party has become a criminal organization complete with people doing Paul'z dirty work so that Paul wasn't implicated. Republicans are rife with Russian money. Clean that shit up.

I get it that you don't understand what fascism is. After all, Paul and his Republican Party supported the fascist overthrow of our government and still you stick with them. The libertarian ideology is a hard right authoritarian one, does not endorse the idea of equal rights under the law and the founder of that sick fake philosophy worked for and defended fascism when he was still in Europe in the 1920's. The very idea of valuing property over people is sick and a bedrock of the fascist ideal.

Is this going anywhere? Is Paul considering a run at the presidency in 2024?

Oh, yeah, this:




Paul files for re-election; doesn’t rule out 2024 presidential run

“I think it’s too early to know that,” Paul said of any presidential possibilities. “The focus right now is on this race in 2022. I have no definite plans to or not to run for president.”

Paul said his priorities if reelected to the Senate are to continue being “one of the lead voices of fiscal conservatism,” determining the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic and limiting wars in the world.
“The main reason that I got involved in politics is because I was worried government was getting too big, and I am still concerned about that,” Paul said. “It’s very important that we do not spend money we don’t have.


Small government my ass. Republicans support cuts to programs they don't use. Like education. Bunch of dumb asses..
 
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PJ Diaz

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I'll be honest, where COVID originated from is not something I'm concerned with, doesn't matter if it came from a wet market or a lab leak. The fact that it is circulating and mutating is what matters. For those that claim this is not as bad as the flu or it's even more mild than a cold, the ones that think they got over it unscathed, you may be fooling the person in the mirror but this virus doesn't give a shit. If you think youth and fitness is your saving grace, or think having gotten over it before is all the protection you need - you really should check this out and see for yourself. Lots of people in great shape couldn't beat this damn virus.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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When a man tells you who he is the first time, one should listen. In 2010, when asked the first time, he said he was opposed to the civil rights act.
So what if he later gave lip service to the CRA? What evidence exists to show he really did change his mind? He's never voted in a meaningful way to support it and in many instances he voted in ways that were detrimental to it. I'll just point at the SCOTUS judges he voted for. Every effing one of them are working to overturn it.

Jessie Benton was an aide that worked FOR Paul. Your party has become a criminal organization complete with people doing Paul'z dirty work so that Paul wasn't implicated. Republicans are rife with Russian money. Clean that shit up.

I get it that you don't understand what fascism is. After all, Paul and his Republican Party supported the fascist overthrow of our government and still you stick with them. The libertarian ideology is a hard right authoritarian one, does not endorse the idea of equal rights under the law and the founder of that sick fake philosophy worked for and defended fascism when he was still in Europe in the 1920's. The very idea of valuing property over people is sick and a bedrock of the fascist ideal.

Is this going anywhere? Is Paul considering a run at the presidency in 2024?

Oh, yeah, this:

Trump won’t be the Republican nominee in 2024, ex-GOP House Speaker Paul Ryan predicts

Because he'll be pushing for his son.


Paul files for re-election; doesn’t rule out 2024 presidential run

“I think it’s too early to know that,” Paul said of any presidential possibilities. “The focus right now is on this race in 2022. I have no definite plans to or not to run for president.”

Paul said his priorities if reelected to the Senate are to continue being “one of the lead voices of fiscal conservatism,” determining the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic and limiting wars in the world.
“The main reason that I got involved in politics is because I was worried government was getting too big, and I am still concerned about that,” Paul said. “It’s very important that we do not spend money we don’t have.


Small government my ass. Republicans support cuts to programs they don't use. Like education. Bunch of dumb asses..
he won't rule out a presidential run? BWAHAHA MOTHERFUCKIN HA. He's got to be right behind ted cruz as the most hated man who manages to keep getting elected to the senate...He should be enormously happy he keeps managing to do that, and not push his luck.
 
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