Examples of GOP Leadership

DIY-HP-LED

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George was the man. He had to think on his feet just to get by in life. Long before he got into politics he was having a cash flow problem. Back in the 1700's there were regular booms and busts in the economy. The country was going through such a bust when Martha's dad died. She got the bulk of her father's slaves, but with everyone suffering from the downturn no one had the ready cash to buy any of them. And the Washington's needed to sell one every couple three months, just to have the resources to run their household. So the great man held a series of lotteries. One Pound per ticket, two hundred fifty tickets sold. The government gets 50 Pounds in tax and 200 free and clear for the Washington's. There is still an intact lottery ticket for a small boy.
He ended up universally respected by his peers after leading the army to victory, so we must judge him by his peers and they were an oligarchy if you get right down to it. Only white males who owned property voted and they were the aristocrats and super rich of their day. Society evolves and so do morals and ethics, women only had the right to vote 103 years ago in most of the Anglo world, America and the British empire. Black people could only vote effectively in many places until laws were passed in the 1960's. So social standards have changed, though with Trump they slipped back to near the dark ages!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This guy needs to be investigated FULLY...He's so shady he makes emnem jealous.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/20/dark-money-leonard-leo-00078657
An end to dark money means an end to these assholes and if the dems win, this is one part of the swamp that will be drained with HR-1. It will screw the republicans and cut off much of their funding, most of the small donor money will go to the low level grifters cut from the same cloth as Trump. Dark money puts American politicians on the international auction block, not just rich Americans are buying them now, Arabs, Chinese, oligarchs, or anybody with a buck can own them.
 

injinji

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He ended up universally respected by his peers after leading the army to victory, so we must judge him by his peers and they were an oligarchy if you get right down to it. Only white males who owned property voted and they were the aristocrats and super rich of their day. Society evolves and so do morals and ethics, women only had the right to vote 103 years ago in most of the Anglo world, America and the British empire. Black people could only vote effectively in many places until laws were passed in the 1960's. So social standards have changed, though with Trump they slipped back to near the dark ages!
Our history books say he was universally respected. But actually reading what was written at the time tells us he had as many detractors as any modern day politician.

We need to teach history in school. Not mythology. Kids can handle the truth. It's the parents who have a problem with it.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Our history books say he was universally respected. But actually reading what was written at the time tells us he had as many detractors as any modern day politician.

We need to teach history in school. Not mythology. Kids can handle the truth. It's the parents who have a problem with it.
It’s a more subtle problem than mass-marketed propaganda based in current events, but parallel. Hagiography sells, even at the highest levels.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Our history books say he was universally respected. But actually reading what was written at the time tells us he had as many detractors as any modern day politician.

We need to teach history in school. Not mythology. Kids can handle the truth. It's the parents who have a problem with it.
Oh I'm in favor of teaching real history, but in his state of Virginia at the time, it was normal behavior for someone of his class and it was by the social stands of there he was judged. Some people from northern states had a dim view of slavery and it became unpopular in England as early as the late 16 hundreds and made illegal in the 1820's , but compensation was paid to the slaveholders, not to the slaves. On the flip side, British empire emancipation freed tens of millions of slaves being held in India by Indians.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It’s a more subtle problem than mass-marketed propaganda based in current events, but parallel. Hagiography sells, even at the highest levels.
We went to St. Augustine last year for vacation. There are two churches there that have museums...The art work itself was beautiful, but wow, was it inaccurate...I'm not sure what the equivalent of hagiography would be in painting, but these guys were sure practicing it.
Kids go to those churches, that push this mythology, and never question what they're taught.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Oh I'm in favor of teaching real history, but in his state of Virginia at the time, it was normal behavior for someone of his class and it was by the social stands of there he was judged. Some people from northern states had a dim view of slavery and it became unpopular in England as early as the late 16 hundreds and made illegal in the 1820's , but compensation was paid to the slaveholders, not to the slaves. On the flip side, British empire emancipation freed tens of millions of slaves being held in India by Indians.
India has had it's own system of slavery forever. those of lower caste sell themselves or their children into indentured servitude, and the rich fucks they sell themselves to try to keep them as slaves forever if they can...AND THAT IS STILL GOING ON IN INDIA TODAY.
there was a scandal about ten years ago in America where an Indian diplomat got in trouble because she said she was paying her indentured slave maid 4500 a month, but wasn't even paying her minimum wage in reality. she had to leave the country to avoid prosecution.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/10/devyani-khobragade-to-leave-us-under-diplomatic-immunity
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
We went to St. Augustine last year for vacation. There are two churches there that have museums...The art work itself was beautiful, but wow, was it inaccurate...I'm not sure what the equivalent of hagiography would be in painting, but these guys were sure practicing it.
Kids go to those churches, that push this mythology, and never question what they're taught.
probably covered by the term, which refers to all media. E.g. social realism is a sort of hagiographic painting. Then there are Prokofffiev’s scores for Eisenstein films …
 

injinji

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India has had it's own system of slavery forever. those of lower caste sell themselves or their children into indentured servitude, and the rich fucks they sell themselves to try to keep them as slaves forever if they can...AND THAT IS STILL GOING ON IN INDIA TODAY.
there was a scandal about ten years ago in America where an Indian diplomat got in trouble because she said she was paying her indentured slave maid 4500 a month, but wasn't even paying her minimum wage in reality. she had to leave the country to avoid prosecution.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/10/devyani-khobragade-to-leave-us-under-diplomatic-immunity
It still happens in the cane fields of south florida too. They ship Haitian workers in and force them to shop for food at the company store and pay rent for the over crowded shacks they stay in. Often they go back to Haiti with no money at all.
 

schuylaar

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to make your feelz quit hurting...he was a cheap low life unemployed piece of shit, buying garbage that should never have been approved to be bought with foodstamps...there, no mention of him being fat, happy now?
I get a card for $180 monthly from my insurance company for 'healthy choices' food and pharmacy items like BP cuff, weight scale etc. that can be used at Walmart, Safeway or King Soopers you should see what they consider healthy; nary a vegetable and you can't buy soda not even the diet coke that I drink..Velveeta items on every page of the brochure:spew: I've never used the card and the money goes away at the end of the month.

People learn it from somewhere.
 

schuylaar

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India has had it's own system of slavery forever. those of lower caste sell themselves or their children into indentured servitude, and the rich fucks they sell themselves to try to keep them as slaves forever if they can...AND THAT IS STILL GOING ON IN INDIA TODAY.
there was a scandal about ten years ago in America where an Indian diplomat got in trouble because she said she was paying her indentured slave maid 4500 a month, but wasn't even paying her minimum wage in reality. she had to leave the country to avoid prosecution.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/10/devyani-khobragade-to-leave-us-under-diplomatic-immunity
The slums of Mumbai gives me nightmares; I can't believe government allows their people to live in squalor.
 

schuylaar

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It still happens in the cane fields of south florida too. They ship Haitian workers in and force them to shop for food at the company store and pay rent for the over crowded shacks they stay in. Often they go back to Haiti with no money at all.
Just don't say 'gay'.
 

printer

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Santos to get his own talking bobblehead, complete with Pinocchio nose


It’s no lie — Rep. George Santos is poised to be immortalized as a talking bobblehead, complete with a feature that plays some of the New York Republican’s “biggest lies.”

Two miniature versions of Santos will be offered by the National Bobblehead Hall of Fame and Museum, it announced Wednesday.

For $30, customers can choose to purchase via a pre-sale either a “standard” Santos, sporting glasses and his signature crew-neck sweater over a dress shirt, or similar one with a Pinocchio-style “elongated nose.”

The lengthy schnoz, the Wisconsin-based museum said, represents the “mounting number of lies and fabrications surrounding Santos’s background that have been documented.”

In addition to the lying look, the bobblehead will feature some of Santos’s reported fabrications “in his own words at the touch of a button.”
The House freshman has come under fire from colleagues on both sides of the aisle in Congress and is facing investigations from federal authorities over potential campaign finance violations, following multiple instances of apparent fabrications involving his work history, education and family heritage.

The retailer said it would donate a portion of sales from each of the Santos bobbleheads to “dog-related GoFundMe campaigns.”
Earlier this month, two veterans accused Santos of running off with thousands of dollars that the now-congressman had helped to raise in a 2016 GoFundMe effort for a lifesaving surgery for a dog that belonged to one of the homeless servicemembers.

Santos called the veterans’ claims “shocking” and “insane.”
National Bobblehead Hall of Fame and Museum co-founder Phil Sklar said that the Santos souvenir was created in response to “a growing number of requests” for a diminutive likeness of the 34-year-old lawmaker.

“No one knows how and when the drama surrounding George Santos will end,” Sklar said in a statement, “but we know the bobblehead will be the perfect collectible to commemorate this unbelievable story for years to come.”
 

printer

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DirecTV drops Newsmax
Television provider DirecTV has dropped conservative channel Newsmax from its lineup after a dispute over carrier fees, a decision the network is calling an act of political censorship.

DirecTV’s current contract with Newsmax expired on Tuesday evening, after the television provider said it was unwilling to agree to carrier fees proposed by the conservative channel.

“On multiple occasions, we made it clear to Newsmax that we wanted to continue to offer the network, but ultimately Newsmax’s demands for rate increases would have led to significantly higher costs that we would have to pass on to our broad customer base,” DirecTV said in a statement to The Hill this week. “Anyone, including our customers, can watch the network for free via NewsmaxTV.com, YouTube.com and on multiple streaming
platforms like Amazon Fire TV, Roku, and Google Play. We continually evaluate the most relevant programming to provide our customers and expect to fill this available channel with new content.”

Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy, however, alleged the decision is based in political bias against conservative news organizations.
“This is a blatant act of political discrimination and censorship against Newsmax,” Ruddy said. “The most extreme liberal channels, even with tiny ratings, get fees from AT&T’s DirecTV, but Newsmax and OAN need to be deplatformed.”

Last week, a group of House Republicans led by Rep. Wesley Hunt (R-Texas) sent a letter to DirecTV threatening to investigate its decision to allow the contract to expire.
Newsmax is smaller than some of its fellow conservative cable channels, but it experienced a short-lived bump after former President Trump lost the 2020 election and promoted its hosts to his followers as an alternative to Fox News and other conservative media.

The channel has been panned in recent years by liberals and media watchdogs for statements by its hosts and segments on the coronavirus pandemic, race relations and other issues.

Last year, DirecTV declined to renew its contract with One America News, another smaller conservative cable channel championed by Trump and his allies.

The GOP going to investigate anyone that does not lick their boots?
 
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Bagginski

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I'm sure the rank and file still live by the rules. It's just the P's and VP's who the honor system applies to.
There’s a lot in the constitution based on an honor system (and a sense of honor) that simply no longer exists except in dinosaurs like me. I think it’s imperative that ALL OF THEM must be spelled out, violations must be subject to DISSUASIVE punishment & disqualification for public-service roles of any type, and *nothing* about *any* of them be left to honor systems of any sort.
 

cannabineer

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There’s a lot in the constitution based on an honor system (and a sense of honor) that simply no longer exists except in dinosaurs like me. I think it’s imperative that ALL OF THEM must be spelled out, violations must be subject to DISSUASIVE punishment & disqualification for public-service roles of any type, and *nothing* about *any* of them be left to honor systems of any sort.
That brings with it an entire raft of problems. The cure might be worse than the disease.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That brings with it an entire raft of problems. The cure might be worse than the disease.
You have rules now, this would just tighten them up and systemize the process. Documents above a certain level could only be displayed on a special secure tablet computer whose screen can't be photographed by a phone camera. These can be tracked and even remotely wiped or wipe automatically if out of range of the signal for a set period of time. The contents cant be transfered to a computer of even be printed and a camera on the device even sees who is looking at the screen when it is on. Technical solutions can help a lot, but can be hacked too, however the documents would be tracked better and information keep off internet connected computers. Someone with a cellphone, access and nefarious intent could photograph a lot of secret documents. Steal a tablet and it fries itself at the WH gate and you need a thumb print to turn it on.
 
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