buckaclark
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I'm saying at some point in history everyone has been shitted on by others and reparations are not the answer to move forward. Unfortunately you seem stuck in a petty Grammer fight here .
REPARATIONS ? Yes !!
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buckaclark
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Very little substance,mostly rhetoric.
Rob Roy
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I support your right to think and speak cynical about what you want, even when it's incorrect.
All victims deserve to be made whole by the person(s) that harmed them. I'm not in favor of "government" paying reparations though in either case.
That shifts the financial responsibility onto the wrong people, thus creating MORE victims.
I hope you get everything you deserve in life.
Rob Roy
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Curious what your take on reparations is ?
Care to take a minute away from your secret who post which memes files and weigh in?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I rather like Grammer. He was aces in Down Periscope.
Orthography is a different thing entirely, and I have no respect for those too lazy to see to theirs. It is generally bundled with slipshod reasoning, like libertarian delusionism.
Serin is the German spelling of serine, one of the essential nutrient amino acids. Kosher, too. How that would be a detriment to Jews escapes me.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
still wondering about serin. One thing at a time.Curious what your take on reparations is ?
Care to take a minute away from your secret who post which memes files and weigh in?
orangejesus
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I think his entire reparations "movement" is a cynical and racist shot at the actual, and much more
well-deserved reparations movement for slave descendants. He's reasoning that if they can get
reparations, why not try getting them for cannabis crimes. So snide and degrading. I'm not signing
on to his notion of it. I'd go for cannabis crimes reparations of course, I'm a felon of cannabis crime,
but not in the way rob roy couches it, esp., with his libertarian, anti-government blather that the magats
were singing about since before they had the red hats, during the regime of Reagan. As soon as I hear
that crap, I turn away. I've heard it and seen it for 40 years, and I know the type. Put on your red hat baby,
and let it shine, shine, shine.
Snide maybe, but how is it racist?
CANON_Grow
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How far back should we investigate to determine who is entitled to reparations? Not sure why reparations would apply to scenario's where someone was convicted of a crime in the past that is no longer a crime now. Just because a law has been updated doesn't change the fact that a law was broken in the past. Should this apply to speeding tickets when speed limits change? There would be real benefit to expunge criminal records for cannabis crime at certain thresholds, say personal use. If you were moving a shit ton of cannabis in the past, not sure that should be included.
Politicians that were against cannabis in the past should not be able to profit from cannabis now, but if politicians had to pay when they changed a law, why would a politician ever try and change a bad law? Sounds like a slippery slope, and one that could be used and abused to benefit certain groups.
Politicians that were against cannabis in the past should not be able to profit from cannabis now, but if politicians had to pay when they changed a law, why would a politician ever try and change a bad law? Sounds like a slippery slope, and one that could be used and abused to benefit certain groups.
buckaclark
Well-Known Member
Fore ever until the objective is achieved.
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
Bring your evidence sir!!
CANON_Grow
Well-Known Member
Should reparations apply to descendants of gangsters from alcohol prohibition?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
how much do you think they should be made to pay?
doublejj
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doublejj
Well-Known Member
They need to pay reparations..
buckaclark
Well-Known Member
What is the moral call here ,or should we discredit one another?
CANON_Grow
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I don't think it's a question that can be answered. In my opinion, reparations should be about removing barriers and allowing access to programs/loans/grants that would have previously not been available. If anyone took a risk breaking a law, with either cannabis or alcohol during prohibition, they should not be rewarded when the law is changed but the penalty should be removed. I am specifically referring to personal use/possession.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I was thinking more along the line that the gangsters made bank off an unfair situation. They very definitely were not about personal use/possession. Thus it seems to me that their descendants are not entitled but liable.
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Holocaust victims?
request for reparations. He's "snidely" asking for cannabis reparations merely to
insult the black reparations movement. Pretty cute.
It's racist because by asking for cannabis reparations is mocking the black
request for reparations. He's "snidely" asking for cannabis reparations merely to
insult the black reparations movement. Pretty cute.
CANON_Grow
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I don't think they should liable. It would not be right to penalize someone that did nothing wrong, we don't get to choose family history. Once there have been multiple generations, how does anyone determine net-benefit or net-loss?
orangejesus
Well-Known Member
ah, totally makes sense - so when Dave Chappelle does his white guy impression, he's being a racist? I mean, he is profiting at the expense of an entire group of people... I think he should donate some of his riches to the 'poor whites' in OH he often mentions...