Lockdowns didn't work.

[abandonconflict]

Just to add to that Covid was a very easy thing to stop the spread of in the early days. That's why we saw countries and states get rid of it time and time again. The problem was that the whole world wasn't on the same page. Australia for eg was Covid free three (maybe 4??) times.

The countries and states that were able to keep a lid on it have the lower Covid deaths even today.
The whole point of lockdowns was to protect the hospital system and to give time for the scientists to do their thing. Vaccination % are very high in most 1st world countries but hospitals are still struggling with staff shortages.

We had 13 deaths in the first few weeks of the pandemic in my state. None after we had a short lockdown and got rid of the virus and the last 8 months of being open again our death toll is 177 from 245,000 cases.

Lockdowns worked.

and how many times does someone quit smoking before they die of lung cancer?

The curve followed access to vaccines and all cause death rates didn't seem to appreciate the efforts of militant lockdown activists.

 

[Donarious]

Lol, I have covid right now. A fucking head cold. I was plugged up for two days, was a giant nothing burger, hold the something. The colds my kids have brought home from school and daycare so far this year have been far worse than covid. All stuck at home with kids that had a fever for 2 hours and are now driving us crazy because they cant leave the house. I can't believe we destroyed our economy and supply chain for this crap. Monumental fuckup considering the variant that ended the pandemic came from a place that rejected lockdowns and vaccines.

Imagine that, Democrats defending the sedentary lifestyles of those making big pharma rich so they can finance their campaigns.

Get vaccinated everyone, especially before a hurricane...

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Lol, you can't make this shit up. Begging people to take a vaccine 2 days before a hurricane when the vaccine need 2 weeks to reach any efficacy.

Follow "the science" folks.

Lol

 

[hanimmal]

Lol, I have covid right now. A fucking head cold. I was plugged up for two days, was a giant nothing burger, hold the something. The colds my kids have brought home from school and daycare so far this year have been far worse than covid. All stuck at home with kids that had a fever for 2 hours and are now driving us crazy because they cant leave the house. I can't believe we destroyed our economy and supply chain for this crap. Monumental fuckup considering the variant that ended the pandemic came from a place that rejected lockdowns and vaccines.

Imagine that, Democrats defending the sedentary lifestyles of those making big pharma rich so they can finance their campaigns.

Get vaccinated everyone, especially before a hurricane...

Joe Biden “Get Vaccinated For Hurricane”

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Lol, you can't make this shit up. Begging people to take a vaccine 2 days before a hurricane when the vaccine need 2 weeks to reach any efficacy.

Follow "the science" folks.

Lol

Welcome new account with about 60 posts who is now spreading propaganda.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-health-social-media-covid-571a85e4c7a2492ea816f6dbd4e32818

Biden’s 2021 comments on hurricane preparedness misrepresented

CLAIM: President Joe Biden called for people in Florida to prepare for Hurricane Ian by getting vaccinated against COVID-19.

THE FACTS: Social media users are misrepresenting an August 2021 video in which Biden urged people in hurricane-prone states to get vaccinated in case they needed to evacuate or stay in a shelter.

As Hurricane Ian on Tuesday approached the southwest coast of Florida, where 2.5 million people had been ordered to evacuate, the out-of-context clip of Biden spread widely on social media. “If you’re in a state where hurricanes often strike, like Florida or the Gulf Coast or into Texas, a vital part of preparing for hurricane season is to get vaccinated now,” Biden says in the video clip. “Everything is more complicated if you’re not vaccinated and a hurricane or a natural disaster hits.”

Some social media users who shared the clip suggested that Biden’s comments were in reference to Hurricane Ian’s expected landfall in Florida. “Protect yourself from incoming hurricanes by getting vaccinated... right now!” wrote a Twitter user who shared the video on Tuesday.

But the video is from Aug. 10, 2021.

Biden made the comments prior to a White House briefing from FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell and other officials about how the COVID-19 pandemic was impacting hurricane preparedness. But he didn’t say getting vaccinated would protect against hurricanes. In the full video, Biden discussed what he described as the upcoming “peak” hurricane season in the Atlantic region coinciding with the pandemic. “If you wind up having to evacuate, if you wind up having to stay in a shelter, you don’t want to add COVID-19 to the list of dangers that you’re going to be confronting,” Biden said in the video, later adding: “We can’t prevent hurricanes making landfall, but we can prevent people from getting seriously sick and dying from COVID-19.” Hurricane Ian made landfall in southwest Florida on Wednesday as a Category 4 storm, leaving destruction in its wake.

 

[Donarious]

Welcome new account with about 60 posts who is now spreading propaganda.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-health-social-media-covid-571a85e4c7a2492ea816f6dbd4e32818
View attachment 5206515
Biden’s 2021 comments on hurricane preparedness misrepresented

CLAIM: President Joe Biden called for people in Florida to prepare for Hurricane Ian by getting vaccinated against COVID-19.

THE FACTS: Social media users are misrepresenting an August 2021 video in which Biden urged people in hurricane-prone states to get vaccinated in case they needed to evacuate or stay in a shelter.

As Hurricane Ian on Tuesday approached the southwest coast of Florida, where 2.5 million people had been ordered to evacuate, the out-of-context clip of Biden spread widely on social media. “If you’re in a state where hurricanes often strike, like Florida or the Gulf Coast or into Texas, a vital part of preparing for hurricane season is to get vaccinated now,” Biden says in the video clip. “Everything is more complicated if you’re not vaccinated and a hurricane or a natural disaster hits.”

Some social media users who shared the clip suggested that Biden’s comments were in reference to Hurricane Ian’s expected landfall in Florida. “Protect yourself from incoming hurricanes by getting vaccinated... right now!” wrote a Twitter user who shared the video on Tuesday.

But the video is from Aug. 10, 2021.

Biden made the comments prior to a White House briefing from FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell and other officials about how the COVID-19 pandemic was impacting hurricane preparedness. But he didn’t say getting vaccinated would protect against hurricanes. In the full video, Biden discussed what he described as the upcoming “peak” hurricane season in the Atlantic region coinciding with the pandemic. “If you wind up having to evacuate, if you wind up having to stay in a shelter, you don’t want to add COVID-19 to the list of dangers that you’re going to be confronting,” Biden said in the video, later adding: “We can’t prevent hurricanes making landfall, but we can prevent people from getting seriously sick and dying from COVID-19.” Hurricane Ian made landfall in southwest Florida on Wednesday as a Category 4 storm, leaving destruction in its wake.

I just thought it was funny, and it is whether it's real or fake. Anyway, the pandemic is over for me and my family. Keep on wiping your groceries down if you please and living in fear of a cold. If you are healthy, remotely in shape, get regular exercise and sunshine you get a cold. Imagine, people a month ago were trying to force me to vax my kids with some shitty, useless vaccine that wasn't even tested on humans, who literally had a fever for 2 hours and a stuffy nose for 2 days.

Who's got that propaganda again? Weren't you calling for people who were unvaccinated to be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps a year ago? Calling them the scourge of the earth and wishing them death? Seems me making a little joke was over the line. I see my mistake now.

Lol.

 

[hanimmal]

I just thought it was funny, and it is whether it's real or fake. Anyway, the pandemic is over for me and my family. Keep on wiping your groceries down if you please and living in fear of a cold. If you are healthy, remotely in shape, get regular exercise and sunshine you get a cold. Imagine, people a month ago were trying to force me to vax my kids with some shitty, useless vaccine that wasn't even tested on humans, who literally had a fever for 2 hours and a stuffy nose for 2 days.

Who's got that propaganda again? Weren't you calling for people who were unvaccinated to be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps a year ago? Calling them the scourge of the earth and wishing them death? Seems me making a little joke was over the line. I see my mistake now.

Lol.

You think lies being spread is funny and thought to share with us?




As for the rest of your post, I have no clue what nation you are from, but if that was the case where you live, I hope you have the same benefit we did in the United States of America and are able to chose a better leader.

Edit: oh and:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid

 

[cannabineer]

Welcome new account with about 60 posts who is now spreading propaganda.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-health-social-media-covid-571a85e4c7a2492ea816f6dbd4e32818
View attachment 5206515
Biden’s 2021 comments on hurricane preparedness misrepresented

CLAIM: President Joe Biden called for people in Florida to prepare for Hurricane Ian by getting vaccinated against COVID-19.

THE FACTS: Social media users are misrepresenting an August 2021 video in which Biden urged people in hurricane-prone states to get vaccinated in case they needed to evacuate or stay in a shelter.

As Hurricane Ian on Tuesday approached the southwest coast of Florida, where 2.5 million people had been ordered to evacuate, the out-of-context clip of Biden spread widely on social media. “If you’re in a state where hurricanes often strike, like Florida or the Gulf Coast or into Texas, a vital part of preparing for hurricane season is to get vaccinated now,” Biden says in the video clip. “Everything is more complicated if you’re not vaccinated and a hurricane or a natural disaster hits.”

Some social media users who shared the clip suggested that Biden’s comments were in reference to Hurricane Ian’s expected landfall in Florida. “Protect yourself from incoming hurricanes by getting vaccinated... right now!” wrote a Twitter user who shared the video on Tuesday.

But the video is from Aug. 10, 2021.

Biden made the comments prior to a White House briefing from FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell and other officials about how the COVID-19 pandemic was impacting hurricane preparedness. But he didn’t say getting vaccinated would protect against hurricanes. In the full video, Biden discussed what he described as the upcoming “peak” hurricane season in the Atlantic region coinciding with the pandemic. “If you wind up having to evacuate, if you wind up having to stay in a shelter, you don’t want to add COVID-19 to the list of dangers that you’re going to be confronting,” Biden said in the video, later adding: “We can’t prevent hurricanes making landfall, but we can prevent people from getting seriously sick and dying from COVID-19.” Hurricane Ian made landfall in southwest Florida on Wednesday as a Category 4 storm, leaving destruction in its wake.

This one has been here before. Use advanced search to find this account’s previous contributions to this subforum. You’ll find the usual authoritarian trolling.

 

[xtsho]

I just thought it was funny, and it is whether it's real or fake. Anyway, the pandemic is over for me and my family. Keep on wiping your groceries down if you please and living in fear of a cold. If you are healthy, remotely in shape, get regular exercise and sunshine you get a cold. Imagine, people a month ago were trying to force me to vax my kids with some shitty, useless vaccine that wasn't even tested on humans, who literally had a fever for 2 hours and a stuffy nose for 2 days.

Who's got that propaganda again? Weren't you calling for people who were unvaccinated to be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps a year ago? Calling them the scourge of the earth and wishing them death? Seems me making a little joke was over the line. I see my mistake now.

Lol.

 

[Fogdog]

I just thought it was funny, and it is whether it's real or fake. Anyway, the pandemic is over for me and my family. Keep on wiping your groceries down if you please and living in fear of a cold. If you are healthy, remotely in shape, get regular exercise and sunshine you get a cold. Imagine, people a month ago were trying to force me to vax my kids with some shitty, useless vaccine that wasn't even tested on humans, who literally had a fever for 2 hours and a stuffy nose for 2 days.

Who's got that propaganda again? Weren't you calling for people who were unvaccinated to be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps a year ago? Calling them the scourge of the earth and wishing them death? Seems me making a little joke was over the line. I see my mistake now.

Lol.

It's true that the pandemic is over. It's also true that the virus is endemic and will continue to infect people. Also true that people who don't get vaccinated are at much higher risk of severe illness and long Covid.

Your second paragraph is a ridiculous and mindless appeal to emotion. The worst of it during the summer of 2021 was perhaps you lost employment over a requirement to be vaccinated. Employers have the right to require vaccination as a condition of employment. They still do. Not sorry about that. "Concentration camps" for the Covid infected happened in China. If so, take your complaints to Xi. He cares. I don't.

 

[Fogdog]

and how many times does someone quit smoking before they die of lung cancer?

The curve followed access to vaccines and all cause death rates didn't seem to appreciate the efforts of militant lockdown activists.

Either his account has been hijacked or AC has slid downward in his debate skills.

 

[Budley Doright]

I gotta ask. Did you ever get to eat that burger on the beach and was it as good as you thought?

Let's see those studies.

Kind of busy right now, hold on and I’ll get back to you. In the mean time you can head to the beach for a burger. I won’t be long.

 

[cannabineer]

Either his account has been hijacked or AC has slid downward in his debate skills.

No; he was always a piñata of fallacy.

 

[Fogdog]

No; he was always a piñata of fallacy.

Maybe it's me. There was a time that I agreed with much of what he said. His account's monomania over lockdowns seemed to be a change. But then again, maybe not. Doesn't matter. The lockdowns worked.

 

[cannabineer]

Maybe it's me. There was a time that I agreed with much of what he said. His account's monomania over lockdowns seemed to be a change. But then again, maybe not. Doesn't matter. The lockdowns worked.

yup.

I also challenge the assertion that lockdowns were bad for the economy. What was bad for the economy was the virus itself, with its parade of variants.

And to a lesser agree, our executive’s chaotic and sadistic response to the objective reality of dealing with the emergent situation.

“Testing causes the pandemic” was broken reasoning, and a real jaw-dropper to hear from people in places of responsibility.

 

[Fogdog]

yup.

I also challenge the assertion that lockdowns were bad for the economy. What was bad for the economy was the virus itself, with its parade of variants.

And to a lesser agree, our executive’s chaotic and sadistic response to the objective reality of dealing with the emergent situation.

“Testing causes the pandemic” was broken reasoning, and a real jaw-dropper to hear from people in places of responsibility.

This thread spanned the course of the pandemic so, I'll go off topic. Trump used the federal emergency stockpile of PPE as items of patronage and dispensed supplies to states that were supplicant to him. Trump literally killed people to make an example of states that did not tow his line. let us not forget.

 

[cannabineer]

This thread spanned the course of the pandemic so, I'll go off topic. Trump used the federal emergency stockpile of PPE as items of patronage and dispensed supplies to states that were supplicant to him. Trump literally killed people to make an example of states that did not tow his line. let us not forget.

I hope this becomes a class action suit worth billions.
Such an example is needed, as the continued malice of certain elected public servants continues to do us harm. It is a thing to be made very expensive imo.

 

[Fogdog]

I hope this becomes a class action suit worth billions.
Such an example is needed, as the continued malice of certain elected public servants continues to do us harm. It is a thing to be made very expensive imo.

I disagree. I'm not saying people should not pursue damages if they think they have been damaged and there is legal recourse. If they have been damaged, remediation is their right. But punitive damages as a deterrent? I don't think anything would have changed Trump's behavior. He wouldn't be deterred for any amount, especially if it was public money at risk.

 

[cannabineer]

I disagree. I'm not saying people should not pursue damages if they think they have been damaged and there is legal recourse. If they have been damaged, remediation is their right. But punitive damages as a deterrent? I don't think anything would have changed Trump's behavior. He wouldn't be deterred for any amount, especially if it was public money at risk.

That Man is effectively unreachable.

And perhaps Mastriano, McCarthy, DeSantis et al. are also lost causes.

Imo the primary purpose is not to punish, but to draw awareness to consequence. It could be the caffeine talking. I don’t usually caffeinate, except prn* as an adjunct for otc migraine management.

But if the pursuit of such a lawsuit gives one or more of their successors pause, it’ll be a good thing imo.

*spell nazi kept replacing with porn

 

[Lucky Luke]

The curve followed access to vaccines and all cause death rates didn't seem to appreciate the efforts of lockdowns.

Incorrect.
I thought you didn't want to post anymore and wanted your account deleted.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Maybe it's me. There was a time that I agreed with much of what he said. His account's monomania over lockdowns seemed to be a change. But then again, maybe not. Doesn't matter. The lockdowns worked.

He was always a strange dude. His politics is the opposite of his account name which has always been very strange. Ex soldier though i think so some leeway in crazy is warranted.

 

[Rob Roy]

The lockdowns worked.

The people who obeyed lockdowns are slaves and the people who ordered them are their masters.