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MICHI-CAN

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Matter of fact.. they are top share holders on everything we consume from your couch to your tv, laptop, food supply, commodities.. look up any US owned company from Pepsi, to Coke, Pizza Hut to Dominoes, Kraft foods, Nestle, Capital One, Halliburton, they all have the same top share holders. BlackRock, and Vanguard....as well as the news media.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Matter of fact.. they are top share holders on everything we consume from your couch to your tv, laptop, food supply, commodities.. look up any US owned company from Pepsi, to Coke, Pizza Hut to Dominoes, Kraft foods, Nestle, Capital One, Halliburton, they all have the same top share holders. BlackRock, and Vanguard....as well as the news media.
Oh, I know all about wealth distribution in America, look up some charts. Trump and the republicans giving them a trillion and a half never helped and the republican solution to everything is tax cuts. The economic system needs fundamental change, but most people are pretty happy and have nice homes and comfortable lives, such people don't revolt.

Here's the problem though, in 20 years' work will increasingly be seen as a privilege, as automation and AI take over most jobs, if current trends prevail, technology accelerates as it goes too. So. people will either be living lives of recreation, or they will be useless mouths to feed. You live better than the late Queens father, the King of Brition did before the war, you have better health care, food, and your house is probably more comfortable and even your car is better, technology made it possible. So, we will all end up commies someday, if we don't destroy ourselves first, just hope some asshole doesn't hack the robot that wipes yer ass in the old folk's home. :o
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Oh, I know all about wealth distribution in America, look up some charts. Trump and the republicans giving them a trillion and a half never helped and the republican solution to everything is tax cuts. The economic system needs fundamental change, but most people are pretty happy and have nice homes and comfortable lives, such people don't revolt.

Here's the problem though, in 20 years' work will increasingly be seen as a privilege, as automation and AI take over most jobs, if current trends prevail, technology accelerates as it goes too. So. people will either be living lives of recreation, or they will be useless mouths to feed. You live better than the late Queens father, the King of Brition did before the war, you have better health care, food, and your house is probably more comfortable and even your car is better, technology made it possible. So, we will all end up commies someday, if we don't destroy ourselves first, just hope some asshole doesn't hack the robot that wipes yer ass in the old folk's home. :o
It's crazy to me that VG and BR own the majority of almost every company....even competitive companies. AI is def making it's mark in the industry and eliminating viable jobs.. I suppose this is to cut costs.. eventually. But, it is scary how fast the pace had gone in the the past decade. If there are no jobs because AI is doing it, how is this going to affect the employment rate?.. I'm talking about 10 years from now, but still.. It's like a big chess game. And the end result is still a little sketchy.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Even the small portion of food supply can get grounded by a "system glitch"... then we won't have a supply of chicken. This can bleed out to other essential sources like corn, wheat, bread, sugar, flour, etc.




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DIY-HP-LED

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It's crazy to me that VG and BR own the majority of almost every company....even competitive companies. AI is def making it's mark in the industry and eliminating viable jobs.. I suppose this is to cut costs.. eventually. But, it is scary how fast the pace had gone in the the past decade. If there are no jobs because AI is doing it, how is this going to affect the employment rate?.. I'm talking about 10 years from now, but still.. It's like a big chess game. And the end result is still a little sketchy.
Getting from here to there won't be easy or pretty. Here's an example, electric trucks, no shifting make automation easier and trolly pantographs make charging on the move possible so only 20 or 30% of main routes need overhead wires with improved battery tech. A driver could take over at the city limits, but that would stop soon too. You may need a degree to get your hands dirty one day, maintenance guys will be the last to go and taking care of people is always a good bet. Millions of pencil pushers in offices have been eliminated over the decades and containerization has made massive changes in global trade.

Here is what Europe is doing for electric trucks.

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DoubleAtotheRON

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I've got 2 sides to this little scenario as far as yesterdays 4th rate hike.... I can understand that we need to control the inflation. Spending money is a good thing, and a bad thing. It's just like the Stock Market. Sometimes things are "overvalued", and then we start to dip into a recession. The housing market has been out of control... just like the Auto industry. If you don't pump the breaks, people are going to be under water as far as housing and auto ownership are concerned. So, this may be e a good thing. Not the first time we've seen this. Years ago, housing interest rates were at 13-18%..... this bring the values down, but at the same time puts people in a bad situation like in 2008, when you're under water and have no way out. I can understand the dynamics, but we need faster control on these situations.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Getting from here to there won't be easy or pretty. Here's an example, electric trucks, no shifting make automation easier and trolly pantographs make charging on the move possible so only 20 or 30% of main routes need overhead wires with improved battery tech. A driver could take over at the city limits, but that would stop soon too. You may need a degree to get your hands dirty one day, maintenance guys will be the last to go and taking care of people is always a good bet. Millions of pencil pushers in offices have been eliminated over the decades and containerization has made massive changes in global trade.

Here is what Europe is doing for electric trucks.

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This is a great concept. Relying purely on electric is not feasible. it takes too much fossil fuels to build these fully electric truckers. Besides, we do not have the resources to make every trucker/shipper that are fully caapable of moving product from coast to coast, and when those batteries fail or expire, where are we gong to dump these expired batteries with lithium ion, and other ground contamination without polluting our own ground water supply?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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"Kommersant": airport employees began to massively receive subpoenas to the military registration and enlistment offices
After the announcement of partial mobilization in Russia, employees of airlines and airports began to receive summons to the military registration and enlistment offices en masse. Employers actively began to book employees from the draft. Kommersant writes about this, citing its sources.

According to the newspaper, employees of at least five Russian airlines, including the Aeroflot group, and more than ten airports received summons to the military enlistment office after the announcement of partial mobilization in Russia on September 21. Their employers are actively working on listing for reservations, with the procedure reportedly unclear. So, the lawyers of the companies do not have an understanding of where it is more expedient to transfer the lists - to the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Transport or local authorities, reports " Kommersant" .

According to the newspaper, most of the interlocutors note that the exemption from conscription is critical not only for pilots and air traffic controllers, but also for technical, commercial and IT specialists. According to them, flights without these workers will stop. So, according to sources in three companies, 50-80% of employees can potentially be mobilized.

In particular, a source close to the Aeroflot group estimates the number of “potential recruits” in all three carriers, including Rossiya and Pobeda, to more than half the state, the newspaper reports. According to the interlocutors, the possible mobilization of technical specialists (IT-specialists and employees of commercial departments) is more of a concern, since "this will paralyze the work."

Hungary announced the start of construction of a nuclear power plant with Rosatom
Budapest received permission to build the Paks nuclear power plant in cooperation with the Russian state corporation Rosatom . Hungarian Foreign Minister Petr Szijjarto told Lentu.ru about this on the sidelines of the 77th UN General Assembly .

“We have received final approval for the construction of our new nuclear power plant, which we will build in accordance with our contract with Rosatom. I am going to meet Director General Mr. Likhachev on Monday in Vienna on the sidelines of the IAEA Congress , and we will draw up a schedule for the coming months and years,” Szijjártó said.

According to him, the project is planned to be completed by 2030.

In August, Hungary refused to recognize Rosatom as a threat to the country's security. According to Szijjarto, the Russian state corporation is a reliable and proven partner of Hungary. “We have been using Russian technologies in the nuclear field for 40 years. And over these 40 years, we have received a lot of positive experience,” the politician stressed.

In December 2014, Russia and Hungary signed a contract worth 12 billion euros for the construction of two units of the Paks nuclear power plant. To implement the project, Moscow had to provide Budapest with a loan of up to 10 billion euros. The funds were planned to be spent on paying for the supply of equipment, design, construction and commissioning of power units.

Hungary refuses to support new sanctions against Russia
Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto refused to support new sanctions against Russia , a Lenta.ru correspondent reports from the sidelines of the 77th UN General Assembly .

According to him, the country sees no "reasonable reasons" for another round of sanctions, especially when it comes to energy. “Energy is a really clear red line for us. We are not ready to force the Hungarian people to pay for a war for which they are absolutely not responsible,” the minister said.

Szijjártó added that Hungary will not make decisions that are contrary to the national interests of the state. He also noted that the European economy is approaching a recession. "And since we don't want the Hungarian people to pay the price of war, we also don't want the European people to pay the price of war," he said.

Earlier, the head of the Hungarian Foreign Ministry said that if the European Union continues to impose sanctions against Russia, this will lead to an increase in the energy crisis in the union. “The EU must stop mentioning the introduction of the eighth package of sanctions, stop introducing measures that will only deepen the energy supply crisis,” he urged.
then put the same motherfucking sanctions on hungary...fucking russist sympathizers.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Roger A. Shrubber

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Matter of fact.. they are top share holders on everything we consume from your couch to your tv, laptop, food supply, commodities.. look up any US owned company from Pepsi, to Coke, Pizza Hut to Dominoes, Kraft foods, Nestle, Capital One, Halliburton, GM, Ford... they all have the same top share holders. BlackRock, and Vanguard....as well as the news media. Go ahead... pick a company and look under "Top Investors"...you're gonna find the these 2 companies own almost everything.
yeah, becaue they're very popular, very successful investment groups...that don't vote on a fucking thing. their individual clients who hold the stocks may vote on issues in the companies they hold stock in...but "state street" doesn't vote on anything...they're a clearing house, not a corporate entity
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's crazy to me that VG and BR own the majority of almost every company....even competitive companies. AI is def making it's mark in the industry and eliminating viable jobs.. I suppose this is to cut costs.. eventually. But, it is scary how fast the pace had gone in the the past decade. If there are no jobs because AI is doing it, how is this going to affect the employment rate?.. I'm talking about 10 years from now, but still.. It's like a big chess game. And the end result is still a little sketchy.
the economy is like a self fulfilling prophecy...poor people have to work, or the state either has to provide for them, or eliminate them...elimination ain't going to happen...and the republicans would rather let them die than provide "welfare"...so they're going to have jobs. it's REQUIRED to keep the system rolling.
AI is still faulty, and will be for quite a long time. robots need maintenance, and there are some jobs they'll never be able to do...there will always be work for people.
i can't believe we're still having this same useless, stupid conversation after 40 years of it being proven wrong, every fucking time it gets brought up...
 
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