Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
printer said:
I love the fact that Trump signed into law that a person retaining top secret documents is a crime. But then again, he probably did not realize that included himself (as you do not remain king forever).
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I hope that a prosecutor with a developed sense of irony gets him on that point of law. A narrowly-framed indictment should go like a greased pig.

www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

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Fogdog

Fogdog

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HGCC said:
I couldn't think of a better word, but yeah, that is what I see happening I guess, the shift towards the primary.

Good and bad with that. The bad would be similar to what we have now in that it's often who goes furthest towards whatever end of the political spectrum of the group that gets through the primaries. At least there is a chance they lose in a general election. Also potential for abuse if a party's leadership has favored candidates that they push internally. With it being one party, you don't have that natural check to their power. The good side is obvious, man it would be rad to pick from a bunch of good ideas. It would also help quite a bit with localizing democrats policy/issues, midwest farmers and people in Manhattan have different needs and views, it is hard to message nationally if you are actually saying anything of substance.
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Fun fact: The origin of this current age of disinformation stems from the Koch brother's inability to sell their right wing version of libertarianism to the general public.

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As Nancy MacLean points out (in this volume and elsewhere), freemarket libertarian policy preferences were never popular with broader
publics. During the 1960s, many Americans embraced a vision of social and economic rights protected by government, albeit with divisive conflicts
surrounding African Americans and other minorities. This tide of support for government protections resulted in a crushing defeat of the
first economic libertarian presidential candidate. In 1964, Barry Goldwater won only six states: his home state of Arizona and five states
of the Deep South of the old Confederacy. As MacLean explains, “The regional concentration of his vote pointed to a larger truth about the Mont
Pelerin Society worldview. As bright as some of the libertarian economists were, their ideas made the headway they did in the South because, in their essence, their stands were so familiar.” She continues, “White southerners who opposed racial equality and economic justice knew from their own region’s history that the only way they could protect their desired way of life was to keep federal power at bay, so that majoritarian democracy
could not reach into the region.”36

While free-market libertarians struggled to convince popular majorities to embrace anti-government economic policies, aligned politicians were more successful in promoting the belief that the federal government gave unearned advantages to domestic racial minorities, and later, to immigrants. In his first run for president in 1976, Ronald Reagan mixed libertarian anti-regulation rhetoric with racist dog whistles that included a tale about a “welfare queen” who took advantage of the hardworking American taxpayer. In speeches across the country, Reagan claimed that she “used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans’ benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year.”37 Reagan promoted images of bureaucrats who helped African American “welfare queens” cheat the system.38 Later on as president, he evoked howls of laughter and outrage among conservatives and the growing ranks of blue collar Republicans with famous lines such as his litany of the nine most terrifying words in the English language: “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.”39

Racial dog whistles became all the more pronounced by the time Reagan’s vice president ran for the presidency himself in 1988. George H. W. Bush’s campaign manager Lee Atwater teamed up with Floyd Brown to make one of the most outrageous political commercials in US
campaign history. The Willie Horton advert

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So, basically, Republicans found that the majority did not buy their libertarian ideology so they switched to lies and disinformation to gain power. It bought them some extra time in power. The way I read it, the Republican Party gave up competing through ideas some time in the early 1970's if not before then. They chose to stay in power through deception, lies, dog whistles and other forms of disinformation. Trump represents the end stage for that kind of political persuasion. How do Republicans reform themselves after a generation or more of holding onto power through disinformation?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
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Rep. Banks: Trump 'Fired Up' Over FBI Raid, 'Made Up Mind' on '24
The Republican Study Committee (RSC) met with former President Donald Trump on Tuesday night in Bedminster, New Jersey, and Chair Jim Banks, R-Ind., is warning Democrats the Mar-a-Lago raid has only "fired up" Trump.

Trump is "very upbeat" and has "made up his mind" on a 2024 presidential campaign, according to Banks, whose committee is urging Trump to make his presidential declaration "sooner than later."

"He didn't seem defeated in the least bit — he was very fired up, very upbeat," Banks told Fox News about the "great three-hour-long" meeting with about a dozen RSC members and Trump, the New York Post reported.

RSC members were urging Trump to officially announce his 2024 presidential campaign "sooner rather than later," according to Banks.

"He said we are going to like his decision, and it is only a matter of time before he will make that decision known," Banks told Fox News.

Banks shared photos and details of the meeting with Trump on social media.

"House conservatives are united in standing with President Trump," Banks wrote on Truth Social. "We will Make America Great Again! @RepublicanStudy."

Banks also denounced the latest Democrat attempt to keep Trump from running in 2024.

"Democrats will do anything and everything they can to prevent Donald Trump's name from ever being on the ballot again," Banks wrote in another Truth Social post. "No one has ever exposed their corruption more than he has."

Banks also noted Attorney General Merrick Garland has exposed himself as a radical partisan operative.

"Thank God Merrick Garland is not a Supreme Court Justice!" Banks tweeted.

Banks noted the Mar-a-Lago raid has not divided Republicans, but "unifies Republicans in our outrage."

"The Republican Party is bigger and stronger than ever before because of Donald Trump's leadership," Banks told Fox News.

"If anything, what the left and the corrupt Biden administration has done will only backfire on them, as they see that the American people stand with President Trump," he added.

"The House GOP is fighting back. We stand united in outrage against the Biden White House and DOJ, and we stand with President Trump."

"I am going to run. It is the only way I will stay out of jail."
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wow...so it was opposite day, and everything banks said is true...in reverse?... :lol:
he hasn't got a fucking clue...democrats WANT trump to run again, republicans DON'T want Garland on the supreme court, republicans have been divided since the second year of trumps term, the American people are fucking sick of trump and his freedumb train magats...

let trump run, they'll still prosecute and convict him, and he'll lose humiliatingly badly...that would be a great day, trump loses so fucking big there can be no denying it, AND he gets convicted and at least gets the rest of his life on house arrest...while the democrats cruise to victory over the split republicans....:lol:
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
printer said:
I love the fact that Trump signed into law that a person retaining top secret documents is a crime. But then again, he probably did not realize that included himself (as you do not remain king forever).
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just goes to show how far back he "knew" he wouldn't be leaving office, without a boot in the fat orange ass to help him out
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Fogdog said:
Fun fact: The origin of this current age of disinformation stems from the Koch brother's inability to sell their right wing version of libertarianism to the general public.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


As Nancy MacLean points out (in this volume and elsewhere), freemarket libertarian policy preferences were never popular with broader
publics. During the 1960s, many Americans embraced a vision of social and economic rights protected by government, albeit with divisive conflicts
surrounding African Americans and other minorities. This tide of support for government protections resulted in a crushing defeat of the
first economic libertarian presidential candidate. In 1964, Barry Goldwater won only six states: his home state of Arizona and five states
of the Deep South of the old Confederacy. As MacLean explains, “The regional concentration of his vote pointed to a larger truth about the Mont
Pelerin Society worldview. As bright as some of the libertarian economists were, their ideas made the headway they did in the South because, in their essence, their stands were so familiar.” She continues, “White southerners who opposed racial equality and economic justice knew from their own region’s history that the only way they could protect their desired way of life was to keep federal power at bay, so that majoritarian democracy
could not reach into the region.”36

While free-market libertarians struggled to convince popular majorities to embrace anti-government economic policies, aligned politicians were more successful in promoting the belief that the federal government gave unearned advantages to domestic racial minorities, and later, to immigrants. In his first run for president in 1976, Ronald Reagan mixed libertarian anti-regulation rhetoric with racist dog whistles that included a tale about a “welfare queen” who took advantage of the hardworking American taxpayer. In speeches across the country, Reagan claimed that she “used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans’ benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year.”37 Reagan promoted images of bureaucrats who helped African American “welfare queens” cheat the system.38 Later on as president, he evoked howls of laughter and outrage among conservatives and the growing ranks of blue collar Republicans with famous lines such as his litany of the nine most terrifying words in the English language: “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.”39

Racial dog whistles became all the more pronounced by the time Reagan’s vice president ran for the presidency himself in 1988. George H. W. Bush’s campaign manager Lee Atwater teamed up with Floyd Brown to make one of the most outrageous political commercials in US
campaign history. The Willie Horton advert

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

So, basically, Republicans found that the majority did not buy their libertarian ideology so they switched to lies and disinformation to gain power. It bought them some extra time in power. The way I read it, the Republican Party gave up competing through ideas some time in the early 1970's if not before then. They chose to stay in power through deception, lies, dog whistles and other forms of disinformation. Trump represents the end stage for that kind of political persuasion. How do Republicans reform themselves after a generation or more of holding onto power through disinformation?
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The last honest Republican President left office before Shepard flew.

addendum: currently GOP hate is all about gender. They are in coalition with the theocrats.

 
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