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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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we need to put some ships in the black sea to protect grain transports. i don't trust putin for 1/10th of one 1/100th of a second...
what's to stop a russian sub from releasing a few mines in the path of a grain ship? then they sit back, deny responsibility, and watch the world suffer...which seems to be what they enjoy doing...
putin talked a load of shit about Sweden and Finland joining nato, but the second Sweden and Finland had guarantees from NATO that they would be protected if attacked, putin just miraculously shut the fuck up about attacking them...because he's a fucking coward who hides behind his stockpile of nukes, that he doesn't dare use, because he knows it would be the end of russia, forever...and more importantly, it would be the end of his dream of becoming the bastard love child of Napoleon and Mussolini...at least when Alexander saw what a shit hole he had turned the world into, he had the good grace to commit suicide...
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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and if you wanna nuke something....nuke the state of Duma in Russian while they are having a assembly....problem solved...most of those nut cases including Putin would be wiped of the face of the map........

just a thought...
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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BudmanTX said:
and if you wanna nuke something....nuke the state of Duma in Russian while they are having a assembly....problem solved...most of those nut cases including Putin would be wiped of the face of the map........

just a thought...
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i would have no problem with that at all...but...putin doesn't regularly attend duma meetings. the duma is like congress, they make suggestions and vote on shit, but the president is only present for a few ceremonial occasions...
of course, i's right down the street from the kremlin, so twofer....
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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cannabineer said:
nuking cities is sooooo TwenCen
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oh i know....it was just a thought......

everyone was talking about nukes during the weekend, so i sat in frustration of the vehicle, opened a beer and had a smoke......and it popped in my head...hit the state of duma, while the assembly was going on, also with Putin, Medeveve, and Lavrov there......the end......Russia can start anew....in theory only of course
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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BudmanTX said:
oh i know....it was just a thought......

everyone was talking about nukes during the weekend, so i sat in frustration of the vehicle, opened a beer and had a smoke......and it popped in my head...hit the state of duma, while the assembly was going on, also with Putin, Medeveve, and Lavrov there......the end......Russia can start anew....in theory only of course
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the only problem is that all the potential candidates to replace them are their current lackeys...so we would then be dealing with the same ideology, but implemented by those even less intelligent than their predecessors....
they've very conveniently poisoned, defenestrated, disemboweled, or at least imprisoned all opposition.
 
BudmanTX

BudmanTX

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the only problem is that all the potential candidates to replace them are their current lackeys...so we would then be dealing with the same ideology, but implemented by those even less intelligent than their predecessors....
they've very conveniently poisoned, defenestrated, disemboweled, or at least imprisoned all opposition.
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yeah you might be right about that....

hey the other idea was to emp pulse the hell out of the cities....bring them back to the stone age of electronics.....fry the whole electrical grid.....
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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BudmanTX said:
oh i know....it was just a thought......

everyone was talking about nukes during the weekend, so i sat in frustration of the vehicle, opened a beer and had a smoke......and it popped in my head...hit the state of duma, while the assembly was going on, also with Putin, Medeveve, and Lavrov there......the end......Russia can start anew....in theory only of course
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We have some lovely conventional weapons that don’t let that djinn out of the bottle.

And (I freely admit to some armchair generaling here) I would not go after the assembly. Or any purely-civilian target.

My initial targets would not be obvious. I would avoid big hard military targets like airfields and silos.

I imagine we know more than what we are saying. Our intel would allow us to compile a list of targets, urban and otherwise, that would really hurt. Im thinking power and datalink nexi. Maybe a gas switchyard or tanker dock or two. Twelve well-placed bombs into the armpits of their internet would be effect without much overkill. I think it would be a job for a pair of B-2s with conventional, precise standoff weapons.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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come to think of it, imagine a munition capable of autonomous stealthy loiter.

A Spirit flies a great arc around the target area, extruding these munitions at the right point. A coupla hours later, the bomber is gone baby gone. …
The munitions execute a terminal run designed for all impacts inside of one second.

Wheee
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
ANC said:
So is annexing countries... Seems like a fitting fix then.
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We dont need to bomb cities as we used to. If we cross the nuclear threshold, it’ll be tough setting a limit shy of exhausting the stockpiles.
At this time the USA has conventional weapons of sufficient power and precision to achieve the purely military goals assigned to nukes since the cold war started.
I believe that such a response would help repair our currently damaged standing in the community of nations.

now if someone does not get the hint, the next step will likely involve our nukes, since I suspect that France and Britain won’t release nuclear permission unless they faced a dire threat to their nations. But we have some low-yield options (0.3 and 1.5 kt) on a precision-guided gravity bomb. Since the amount of radioactive contamination almost tracks fission yield, using the lowest yield that gets the military job done is important for the world we live in afterward.

Annexing part or all of a nation’s territory is an old game beloved of autocrats, and I doubt it is going away soon. I see value in having nonnuclear options for dissuading or reversing such an act.
 
ANC

ANC

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cannabineer said:
Annexing part or all of a nation’s territory is an old game beloved of autocrats, and I doubt it is going away soon. I see value in having nonnuclear options for dissuading or reversing such an act.
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You might break the political machine again, but I fear without a damning show of force, the man in the street would keep yearning for how things were in the peak days of the old Soviet Union, and with some deep help belief that they can reclaim it. Kind of like they do now....
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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ANC said:
So is annexing countries... Seems like a fitting fix then.
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No need these days, just kill the asshole who's causing trouble from afar, no need to destroy even the house. That guy the Americans snuffed in Afghanistan standing on his balcony with 2 Hellfire missiles from drone controlled by a satellite. Apparently no explosives were used, just blades, they chopped him into hamburger as the missile body flew into what was left his. No collateral damage, no man no problem, as Stalin used to say
 
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