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Russians struck Olenivka to cover up the torture and execution of prisoners – General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
The General Staff of Ukraine reports that Russia shelled the penal colony in Olenivka, Donetsk Oblast, to cover up the torture and murders of Ukrainian prisoners of war, as well as to accuse the Armed Forces of Ukraine of committing "war crimes."

Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on Facebook

Details: According to information provided by the General Staff, Ukraine did not launch either missile or artillery strikes on the Olenivka area.

Quote: "The Russian occupiers pursued their criminal goals in order to accuse Ukraine of committing ‘war crimes’, as well as to cover up the torture and executions of prisoners which they carried out there on the orders of the occupation administration and the command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the temporarily occupied territory of Donetsk Oblast.

Therefore, statements about the alleged shelling of civilian infrastructure and the population by the Armed Forces of Ukraine are outright lies and provocations, the responsibility of which is borne by Russia, the aggressor country, the occupier and the sponsor of terrorism."

Background: On the morning of 29 July, the Russian media announced the shelling of the penal colony in Olenivka, Donetsk Oblast, where Ukrainian prisoners are being held. Russian propaganda outlets report at least 53 Ukrainian POWs were killed.

Azov Battalion units announced a hunt for all those involved in the mass murder of Ukrainian prisoners of war in Olenivka on 29 July.
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Russians struck Olenivka to cover up the torture and execution of prisoners – General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

UKRAINSKA PRAVDA – FRIDAY, 29 JULY 2022, 13:25
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Roger A. Shrubber

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Russians struck Olenivka to cover up the torture and execution of prisoners – General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
The General Staff of Ukraine reports that Russia shelled the penal colony in Olenivka, Donetsk Oblast, to cover up the torture and murders of Ukrainian prisoners of war, as well as to accuse the Armed Forces of Ukraine of committing "war crimes."

Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, on Facebook

Details: According to information provided by the General Staff, Ukraine did not launch either missile or artillery strikes on the Olenivka area.

Quote: "The Russian occupiers pursued their criminal goals in order to accuse Ukraine of committing ‘war crimes’, as well as to cover up the torture and executions of prisoners which they carried out there on the orders of the occupation administration and the command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the temporarily occupied territory of Donetsk Oblast.

Therefore, statements about the alleged shelling of civilian infrastructure and the population by the Armed Forces of Ukraine are outright lies and provocations, the responsibility of which is borne by Russia, the aggressor country, the occupier and the sponsor of terrorism."

Background: On the morning of 29 July, the Russian media announced the shelling of the penal colony in Olenivka, Donetsk Oblast, where Ukrainian prisoners are being held. Russian propaganda outlets report at least 53 Ukrainian POWs were killed.

Azov Battalion units announced a hunt for all those involved in the mass murder of Ukrainian prisoners of war in Olenivka on 29 July.
www.pravda.com.ua

Russians struck Olenivka to cover up the torture and execution of prisoners – General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

UKRAINSKA PRAVDA – FRIDAY, 29 JULY 2022, 13:25
www.pravda.com.ua www.pravda.com.ua
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oh my motherfucking god, can't we just invade russia and get this fucking shit over with? how long will these animalistic war criminals be allowed to commit atrocities, then insult those they're assaulting? at this point, i seriously would just disolve the russian union, set all 22 provinces up as independent states, and let the Chinese take the ones that butt up to their borders...just to be done with the seat of international political terrorism once and for all...
putin is an amplifier of all the worlds troubles....there are people starving, so he makes more people starve, there are people who won't have enough fuel to keep their jobs going, to keep their power on reliably, so he cuts the flow of fuel, there is a huge problem with the worlds supply chain, so he makes it worse...why the fuck are we putting up with putin? his arsenal of nukes?...his old, outdated, unreliable, soviet era pile of shit nukes? i'm about tired of being scared of that mostly empty threat from a piece of shit windbag.
how many missiles do you think he could launch if we hit russia with a no warning strike? designed to hit every one of their nuclear facilities first? how many of their subs could we sink before they could launch one warhead? i'd like to find out, personally...
 
BudmanTX

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Roger A. Shrubber

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BudmanTX said:
don't worry i'm not gonna do the math....sheesh

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552748003152334849
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280k is only like 160-170 miles...moscow is over 500k from Ukraine's closest border....
don't get me wrong, more distance is better, and would probably make taking out the Kerch bridge a lot easier, which would isolate the russians in Crimea pretty effectively.
i would just love for putin to be aware that they have something that could reach out and touch the kremlin...
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
280k is only like 160-170 miles...moscow is over 500k from Ukraine's closest border....
don't get me wrong, more distance is better, and would probably make taking out the Kerch bridge a lot easier, which would isolate the russians in Crimea pretty effectively.
i would just love for putin to be aware that they have something that could reach out and touch the kremlin...
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that bridge would be targeted, and that's naval area in Savastopol would be a target too........or i would hope...
 
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US-donated HIMARS is the 'perfect' weapon thanks to poor Russian logistics forcing senior commanders in its range, military expert says

The US has sent 12 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems to Ukraine, and will send four more. They have been hailed as a game-changer.
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US-donated HIMARS is the 'perfect' weapon thanks to poor Russian logistics forcing senior commanders in its range, military expert says

  • Ukraine's fight against Russia now involves HIMARS, a long-range weapons system from the US.
  • Ukraine says used it to kill a Russian general and destroyed 50 ammunition depots.
  • A military expert told Insider HIMARS is the "perfect" weapon to exploit Russia's bad war planning.
The long-range weapons the US sent Ukraine are the perfect weapon for this moment in the war because of how it can exploit Russia's poor war planning, a military expert said.

The US sent 12 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) — long-range, high-precision rocket launchers that can hit targets 5o miles away — as part of the arsenal Western countries are sending Ukraine to help fight Russia.

Ukraine had repeatedly said it needed more long-range weapons to fight effectively. Now it has HIMARS — and Ukraine says it's working.

Russian command more vulnerable
William Alberque, director of strategy, technology, and arms control at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, told Insider the HIMARS is "exactly the right system at the right time" for Ukraine because of how Russia is fighting.

He said Russia's infantry and armored units are vulnerable as they are extremely dependent on their supply chain, and that Russia's lack of trust in lower-ranked officials to make decisions means it has to bring more senior commanders close to the battle.

"Because of their doctrine, they don't devolve decision-making down to the lowest level as we do in the West," he said.

"Therefore you have to move your command post much closer to the front," he said, with Russia also "moving massive amounts of ammunition, gathering them all together, and moving their command posts closer and closer to the front."

And Ukraine now has the equipment to hit them quickly, accurately, and from a safe distance for its own soldiers.

Ukraine said HIMARS was used to kill a Russian general and destroy 50 ammunition depots.

Alberque said the HIMARS "is unbelievably accurate with no setup time. By the time Russians are even thinking about counter fire, the thing's gone."

Ukraine, he noted, is "hitting these massive ammunition dumps, these massive artillery masses, and the command posts."

The weapons have so far "made such a massive difference" for Ukraine, Alberque said.

"It's that amazing coincidence of Russian tactics and the absolute perfect system designed to destroy those tactics."

Russia's centralized command has previously been credited with leaving its generals vulnerable in Ukraine.

Russia has no clear defense
Alberque said it isn't obvious how Russia could respond.

Fixing its logistics to make it less vulnerable wouldn't be possible for Russia, "not even in a six-month job," he said. "Like, that's a five-year job."

He said Russia may figure out how to better intercept HIMARS missiles with existing equipment, but that could actually make it a bigger target.

"It's still not entirely clear that that would be successful, but it would be better," he said.

"On the other hand, massing together really good radars and really good air defense systems are wonderful targets for HIMARS."

Russia, he said, has many long-range weapons itself, but none as accurate as what Ukraine now has from the West: "It's not clear that Russia will be able, in this phase of the war, to adapt. It's a much longer-term issue."
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
280k is only like 160-170 miles...moscow is over 500k from Ukraine's closest border....
don't get me wrong, more distance is better, and would probably make taking out the Kerch bridge a lot easier, which would isolate the russians in Crimea pretty effectively.
i would just love for putin to be aware that they have something that could reach out and touch the kremlin...
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Back when I was dealing with all the new hormones, I imprinted on the Ferrari 365 GTB.

That is why I can tell you from memory that 280 km is 174 miles.
 
ANC

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The main benefit of the Himars is the disruption of supplies...
With the speed a supply truck can move, you need to be within 30km to do 3 trips per day. This is the amount you need to stay supplied.
With Himars with entry-level M142 rockets, they have a range of 80km so this means supply depots and command bunkers now need to move to 90km away, and front line guys getting 1/3rd of the needed supplies per day.
 
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Russia suspends gas supplies to Latvia
Russian energy giant Gazprom Saturday suspended gas supplies to Latvia following tensions between Moscow and the West over the conflict in Ukraine and sweeping European and US sanctions against Russia.

The declaration came a day after Moscow and Kyiv accused each other of bombing a jail holding Ukrainian prisoners of war in Russian-held territory, with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky saying more than 50 were killed and calling the attack a war crime.

"Today, Gazprom suspended its gas supplies to Latvia... due to violations of the conditions" of purchase, the company said on Telegram.

Gazprom drastically cut gas deliveries to Europe via the Nord Stream pipeline on Wednesday to about 20 percent of its capacity.

The Russian state-run company had earlier announced it would choke supply to 33 million cubic metres a day -- half the amount it has been delivering since service resumed last week after 10 days of maintenance work.

EU states have accused Russia of squeezing supplies in retaliation for Western sanctions over Moscow's intervention in Ukraine.

Gazprom cited the halted operation of one of the last two operating turbines for the pipeline due to the "technical condition of the engine".

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has blamed EU sanctions for the limited supply.

"Technical pumping capacities are down, more restricted. Why? Because the process of maintaining technical devices is made extremely difficult by the sanctions adopted by Europe," Peskov said.

"Gazprom was and remains a reliable guarantor of its obligations... but it can't guarantee the pumping of gas if the imported devices cannot be maintained because of European sanctions," he said.

The European Union this week agreed a plan to reduce gas consumption in solidarity with Germany, where the Nord Stream pipeline runs to, warning of Russian "blackmail".

Russia's defence ministry on Friday accused Ukraine of striking a prison in Russian-held territory with US-supplied long-range missiles, in an "egregious provocation" designed to stop captured soldiers from surrendering.

It said the dead included Ukrainian forces who had surrendered after weeks of fighting off Russia's brutal bombardment of the sprawling Azovstal steelworks in the port city of Mariupol.

Zelensky laid the blame squarely on Russia.

"This was a deliberate Russian war crime, a deliberate mass murder of Ukrainian prisoners of war," Zelensky said in his daily address to the nation late Friday. "Over 50 are dead."

Zelensky said an agreement for the Azovstal fighters to lay down their arms, brokered by the United Nations and the International Committee of the Red Cross, included guarantees for their health and safety and called on those two organisations to intervene, as guarantors.

Zelensky also urged the international community, especially the United States, to have Russia officially declared as a state sponsor of terrorism.

"A decision is needed, needed right now," he said.

In a sign of Washington's continued support of Kyiv, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke to his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov for the first time since the beginning of the conflict Friday, urging Moscow against annexing any more Ukrainian territory occupied by Russian forces.

US warning
"It was very important that the Russians hear directly from us that that will not be accepted -- and not only will it not be accepted, it will result in additional significant costs being imposed upon Russia if it follows through," Blinken told reporters in Washington.

Zelensky on Friday visited a port in southern Ukraine to oversee a ship being loaded with grain for export under a UN-backed plan aimed at getting millions of tonnes of Ukrainian grain stranded by Russia's naval blockade to world markets.

In a separate development, S&P Global Ratings on Friday cut Ukraine's long-term debt grade by three notches, saying a recently announced plan to defer payments means a default is "a virtual certainty".

A group of Western countries last week gave their green light to Kyiv's request to postpone interest payments on its debt and called on other creditors to do so as well.
www.france24.com

Russia suspends gas supplies to Latvia

Russian energy giant Gazprom Saturday suspended gas supplies to Latvia following tensions between Moscow and the West over the conflict in Ukraine and sweeping European and US sanctions against Russia.…
www.france24.com www.france24.com
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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Russia suspends gas supplies to Latvia
Russian energy giant Gazprom Saturday suspended gas supplies to Latvia following tensions between Moscow and the West over the conflict in Ukraine and sweeping European and US sanctions against Russia.

The declaration came a day after Moscow and Kyiv accused each other of bombing a jail holding Ukrainian prisoners of war in Russian-held territory, with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky saying more than 50 were killed and calling the attack a war crime.

"Today, Gazprom suspended its gas supplies to Latvia... due to violations of the conditions" of purchase, the company said on Telegram.

Gazprom drastically cut gas deliveries to Europe via the Nord Stream pipeline on Wednesday to about 20 percent of its capacity.

The Russian state-run company had earlier announced it would choke supply to 33 million cubic metres a day -- half the amount it has been delivering since service resumed last week after 10 days of maintenance work.

EU states have accused Russia of squeezing supplies in retaliation for Western sanctions over Moscow's intervention in Ukraine.

Gazprom cited the halted operation of one of the last two operating turbines for the pipeline due to the "technical condition of the engine".

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has blamed EU sanctions for the limited supply.

"Technical pumping capacities are down, more restricted. Why? Because the process of maintaining technical devices is made extremely difficult by the sanctions adopted by Europe," Peskov said.

"Gazprom was and remains a reliable guarantor of its obligations... but it can't guarantee the pumping of gas if the imported devices cannot be maintained because of European sanctions," he said.

The European Union this week agreed a plan to reduce gas consumption in solidarity with Germany, where the Nord Stream pipeline runs to, warning of Russian "blackmail".

Russia's defence ministry on Friday accused Ukraine of striking a prison in Russian-held territory with US-supplied long-range missiles, in an "egregious provocation" designed to stop captured soldiers from surrendering.

It said the dead included Ukrainian forces who had surrendered after weeks of fighting off Russia's brutal bombardment of the sprawling Azovstal steelworks in the port city of Mariupol.

Zelensky laid the blame squarely on Russia.

"This was a deliberate Russian war crime, a deliberate mass murder of Ukrainian prisoners of war," Zelensky said in his daily address to the nation late Friday. "Over 50 are dead."

Zelensky said an agreement for the Azovstal fighters to lay down their arms, brokered by the United Nations and the International Committee of the Red Cross, included guarantees for their health and safety and called on those two organisations to intervene, as guarantors.

Zelensky also urged the international community, especially the United States, to have Russia officially declared as a state sponsor of terrorism.

"A decision is needed, needed right now," he said.

In a sign of Washington's continued support of Kyiv, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken spoke to his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov for the first time since the beginning of the conflict Friday, urging Moscow against annexing any more Ukrainian territory occupied by Russian forces.

US warning
"It was very important that the Russians hear directly from us that that will not be accepted -- and not only will it not be accepted, it will result in additional significant costs being imposed upon Russia if it follows through," Blinken told reporters in Washington.

Zelensky on Friday visited a port in southern Ukraine to oversee a ship being loaded with grain for export under a UN-backed plan aimed at getting millions of tonnes of Ukrainian grain stranded by Russia's naval blockade to world markets.

In a separate development, S&P Global Ratings on Friday cut Ukraine's long-term debt grade by three notches, saying a recently announced plan to defer payments means a default is "a virtual certainty".

A group of Western countries last week gave their green light to Kyiv's request to postpone interest payments on its debt and called on other creditors to do so as well.
www.france24.com

Russia suspends gas supplies to Latvia

Russian energy giant Gazprom Saturday suspended gas supplies to Latvia following tensions between Moscow and the West over the conflict in Ukraine and sweeping European and US sanctions against Russia.…
www.france24.com www.france24.com
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this is just going to drag on and on till we finally have to go in there and stomp russia's ass...why waste any more time about it?
 
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