Can vertical growing utilize less space and be stealthy?

[tuksu6000]

Everything grows on the walls so there is more space to use. Pics dont maybe open it up but it was pretty simple. I copy this idea from @Sedan who is mastermind behind that style.
Im also planning vertical led setup but with only one wall like @gr865.
Maybe these pics shows a little more:

 

[ttystikk]

Heres a couple examples. The second is kinda sexy with the Rockwool slabs set up on end

That's cool and all but obsolete.

 

[ttystikk]

Everything grows on the walls so there is more space to use. Pics dont maybe open it up but it was pretty simple. I copy this idea from @Sedan who is mastermind behind that style.
Im also planning vertical led setup but with only one wall like @gr865.
Maybe these pics shows a little more:
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@Sedan and his wife work very hard at training the plants to climb all the way up the trellis and thoroughly cover it before they flip. Their diligence is most impressive!

 

[ttystikk]

That’s the only way i’ve seen vertical grows, the different levels but the plants must be small. Must be a SOG type grow huh? I mean you’d have harvests much quicker, but they’d be much smaller.

Fun way to try new strains. When doing SOG grows (similar to some vert grows I’m thinking,) do you get similar harvests to regular grows overall?

When I say shelves, I'm talking about horizontal trays, maybe 3-4 feet wide by up to 8 feet long. The lights are above, mounted under the next shelf and so on, up to 6 shelves high. Yes, they use ladders and scissor lifts to access most of the levels.

The pics on the last page are of round SOG style grows, arranged around HID lighting. That's an obsolete approach because LED light works much better and because you don't need to make the walls round, there's a lot more room for both the plants themselves and the workers training the plants.

 

[OneHitDone]

When I say shelves, I'm talking about horizontal trays, maybe 3-4 feet wide by up to 8 feet long. The lights are above, mounted under the next shelf and so on, up to 6 shelves high. Yes, they use ladders and scissor lifts to access most of the levels.

The pics on the last page are of round SOG style grows, arranged around HID lighting. That's an obsolete approach because LED light works much better and because you don't need to make the walls round, there's a lot more room for both the plants themselves and the workers training the plants.

Yes, I understand vertical tiered grow method.
That is what my current grow is with some lighting adjustments since this photo

 

[Leoweed]

Everything grows on the walls so there is more space to use. Pics dont maybe open it up but it was pretty simple. I copy this idea from @Sedan who is mastermind behind that style.
Im also planning vertical led setup but with only one wall like @gr865.
Maybe these pics shows a little more:
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Hi, how effective the cool tube to lower the temperature? I live in the tropics, and I love the set up, to increase yield in small space, but not sure how to handle the heat, even with aircon in the same room with the lights

 

[Paul Drake]

I love vertical grow. Check out the section here.

 

[tuksu6000]

Hi, how effective the cool tube to lower the temperature? I live in the tropics, and I love the set up, to increase yield in small space, but not sure how to handle the heat, even with aircon in the same room with the lights

Hey man, atleast In 4x4 it was very effective, no chance to go without tubes. What is your room temperature?

 

[Leoweed]

Hey man, atleast In 4x4 it was very effective, no chance to go without tubes. What is your room temperature?

Without airconditioning can go well above 115 I think, I am thinking if corn led lights would be effective for flowering..and help with the heat

 

[tuksu6000]

Without airconditioning can go well above 115 I think, I am thinking if corn led lights would be effective for flowering..and help with the heat

That sounds extremely hot. I dont think that tubes do much in that climate.

 

[Leoweed]

That sounds extremely hot. I dont think that tubes do much in that climate.

yes is in the tropics, i think I can start to vegetate inside with cooler lamps, like t5 and leds, then pass in a netted kind greenhouse for flowering, or directly outside if I can get the pest undercontrol, I am short listing the most mold and heat resistent strains to grow, but I still would try to grow indoor too at the same time, for this I was thinking about corn kind led lights, may be cooler enough and with fan and may be some air, they would be cool enough, or go with scrog set up but flat and use leds used vertical

 

[Star Dog]

I've not read all of the replies this might have been been mentioned or been done, it might even be std practice idk, the title jogged my memory.

This isn't my photo it belongs to https://www.rollitup.org/members/gr865.525378/

Long story short i was going to do 4 walls with 2x600s in the middle.

The door would've been a issue but not impossible.

 

[Leoweed]

yes sound good, I will try something like this

 

[Mechman60]

I feel like a child having to ask this. Long story short I’ve grown in a basement but have to temporarily move. Moving into a house that i’m renting from family, 1 floor/no basement. They may want to casually see what i’ve done with my place, and will be coming over occasionally.
I’ve been using a 4x4 bed but i’d need a 5x5 tent, and i’m open tj suggestions on how to hide a tent that big, I was thinking maby vertical growing may work better?

I have an HLG Scorpion R Spec, and it says it’s vert growing compatible. Thoughts on this?

 

[Mechman60]

I feel like a child having to ask this. Long story short I’ve grown in a basement but have to temporarily move. Moving into a house that i’m renting from family, 1 floor/no basement. They may want to casually see what i’ve done with my place, and will be coming over occasionally.
I’ve been using a 4x4 bed but i’d need a 5x5 tent, and i’m open tj suggestions on how to hide a tent that big, I was thinking maby vertical growing may work better?

I have an HLG Scorpion R Spec, and it says it’s vert growing compatible. Thoughts on this?

Rent that extra room out to your tent. Might have to give the tent a name Buddy or Danks. It would be rude to snoop. Ha ha ha, oh

 

[ttystikk]

4x4 should grow enough for personal use, unless you need more than a kg every 2 months?

Growing vertically only allows you to grow more in a given footprint. You won't grow more if you use the same lighting.

 

[Fringie]

I have a 70x70x170 tent. Before using a tent, I had like 8 plants which obviously did not fit in my tent so I bought a second and stacked the tents on top of each other.

It worked, but it requires a little effort, i.e. using a ladder so you can water the plant properly. I stopped because I'm too lazy to do the effort and I'd rather focus on getting one plant good than two mediocre plants. If you don't do the effort, then the top grow tent won't be as productive as the bottom tent because of things like uneven watering, more difficulty in pruning and so on.

 

[Mechman60]

4x4 should grow enough for personal use, unless you need more than a kg every 2 months?

Growing vertically only allows you to grow more in a given footprint. You won't grow more if you use the same lighting.

Lst can be useful if your plants are hitting the lights. Or keep your canopy even so all the plants are the same distance from the light.

 

[@EastCoastGenetix]

I feel like a child having to ask this. Long story short I’ve grown in a basement but have to temporarily move. Moving into a house that i’m renting from family, 1 floor/no basement. They may want to casually see what i’ve done with my place, and will be coming over occasionally.
I’ve been using a 4x4 bed but i’d need a 5x5 tent, and i’m open tj suggestions on how to hide a tent that big, I was thinking maby vertical growing may work better?

I have an HLG Scorpion R Spec, and it says it’s vert growing compatible. Thoughts on this?

My man I'm going to shoot it to you straight.... you have to get creative with how you hide it.

Turning the tent side was take the vertical profile from 80" to 48" & the profile of the width from 48" to 80". So, if you leave it upright like you really should grow as normal. If you turn it vertical your going to run into problems. For the light you have, you would have to dim it to start then dim it further as plants grow into them. The footprint changes but the light is designed for a square footprint vs the rectangle being side ways.
With leds the light comes from one angle vs 360° like a HID bulb so led is not efficient for old school vertical practices. The light drops dramatically and only the top 18-24" at best would be dense bud. For LED were limited to stacking for vertical. With LED's flat canopy is the golden ticket to heavy harvest. The even light spread with bar style leds and tbh 1' off the top of the canopy and alot of leaf stripping at best 18"-24" of your canopy will be dense everything else will be frost larf.
LED'S work well for stacking and height limitations. Your light is a beast when used correctly.

 

[@EastCoastGenetix]

OnehitDone, my friend, I think you can grow large crop with vertical, here is my last vertical grow.
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That was with two 315W CMH lamps, I am going to try a vert with my new HLG Scorpion Diablo.

I dig the grow but it make no sense with the LED light you have. You will get a heavier harvest with SCROG imo.