veg all winter/ bring plants outside with supplemental lighting in spring (northern hemisphere)

[Knowurhyphae]

I hear you man. The thing is the plants are asleep by 8 and i'm sure they don't wake up at 5:42 on the dot. Average light is not something I made up. I looked it up.
Obviously its strain dependent but Im sure a plant kept at 15:15 hours light inside would flower. I have had plants flower inside at kept at 16 hours.
Thanks for the input if they are just pre flowers I will cut the plants back by another third.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

I have had plants flower inside at kept at 16 hours.

Yes they are called autoflowers. Photoperiod plants will not flower with only 8 hrs of darkness.

 

[Chief_Broom]

Isn’t the point of a long veg time to let the plant get as big as it possibly can before it starts flowering?

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Isn’t the point of a long veg time to let the plant get as big as it possibly can before it starts flowering?

You would think so, right?

 

[Chief_Broom]

Also I don’t see plants getting any bigger than the ones doublej posted and those were clones started Jan - Feb. So vegging for longer than that strikes me as a waste of time. Not saying it’s bad to veg for longer I just don’t see it providing any benefit other than the joy had from growing something?

 

[Knowurhyphae]

Joy of growing- thats it baby. These have been chopped down 1/3 a few times already. I got 90% of the nutes for free from companies to test them out since I work for a good nursery.I didn't really spend money on that + lights were on already for other grows...
I respect your growing knowledge 28.3 5 but with all do respect they were not autos. Some strains will start flower at 16 hours. Have you ever vegged at 16? Probably not; that is why we recommend to new growers a minimum of 18 hours on.
Sorry if my grow offends you guys.

 

[Chief_Broom]

My least favorite thing about growing cannabis is how long it takes.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Joy of growing- thats it baby. These have been chopped down 1/3 a few times already. I got 90% of the nutes for free from companies to test them out since I work for a good nursery.I didn't really spend money on that + lights were on already for other grows...
I respect your growing knowledge 28.3 5 but with all do respect they were not autos. Some strains will start flower at 16 hours. Have you ever vegged at 16? Probably not; that is why we recommend to new growers a minimum of 18 hours on.
Sorry if my grow offends you guys.

No, why would I want to veg at 16? Love to see some photos going into flower with 8 hrs of darkness.

 

[7CardBud]

If you are growing for profit, hell ya it's worth it. If you grow for yourself, family and friends I don't think it's worth it. 12 small clones started in late spring will be plenty. I did the big winter veg one year and the monsters produced way more than we could use in two years. I started dropping bags around town for people to find so the stuff wouldn't get too old.

 

[Knowurhyphae]

There is no reason to veg at 16 I did it for experimentation. I spent the time to dig up these old pics but they still dont prove anything...
A little context. These plants where only watered upright they spent their entire lives being rotated, flipped around/turned away from the light to create odd bends and short fat plants without any topping.

 

[Kassiopeija]

No, why would I want to veg at 16? Love to see some photos going into flower with 8 hrs of darkness.

When the tip of the root hits at the bottom of the pot even some photoperiodic sativas start flowering.

Also this:

a photoperiodic under 18/6 quantum board

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

When the tip of the root hits at the bottom of the pot even some photoperiodic sativas start flowering.

Also this:
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a photoperiodic under 18/6 quantum board

Tip of what root?

What psychological process is that attributed. Does the root hitting the bottom of the pot produce flowering hormones?

 

[Kassiopeija]

Tip of what root?

Was it SSSDH? something like that spelling IIRC

What psychological process is that attributed

the roots is akin the brain or headquarter and many controlling substances are chemosized in it

see?

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Was it SSSDH? something like that spelling IIRC


the roots is akin the brain or headquarter and many controlling substances are chemosized in it
View attachment 5158614
see?

You could have just said I don’t know.

 

[Kassiopeija]

You could have just said I don’t know.

that's what you said ^^

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

that's what you said ^^

So if some root touches the bottom of a pot it chemosizes the hormones that induce flowering? Did I summarize that correctly?

 

[Kassiopeija]

So if some root touches the bottom of a pot it chemosizes the hormones that induce flowering? Did I summarize that correctly?

no you are wrong on the hormone part
although... who knows?
I mean, can the science absolutely rule out any type of these root influences even in unusual or highly specific circumstances?

 

[Kassiopeija]

Let's say you take a cut from a mature photoperiod and root it 2 weeks under 12/12 why doesn't it flower instantly?
What difficult-to-understand internal processes happen when a cut tries to rebuild roots and can this intermingle with the flowering behaviour?

 

[waterproof808]

you are def going to want to thin those girls out in the middle and bottom of the plant.

 

[Knowurhyphae]

I have been working on it. I will go thinner, less mold, less popcorn. I really think one of these two plans is flowering...