Time to break up the states?

injinji

injinji

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Lucky Luke said:
Texas wants to leave and let's be honest California would want to same with Hawaii. Maybe many others.
Should each state have an option to leave peacefully? The in it for life thing is a bit dated.



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Like Beau says, all the other states would have to agree. Why talk about something that is not going to happen?
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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injinji said:
Like Beau says, all the other states would have to agree. Why talk about something that is not going to happen?
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Why not?
Or secession would require a US Constitutional amendment approved by two-thirds majorities in the US House of Representatives and Senate, then ratification by 38 state legislatures. Analysts consider states secession improbable.

Improbably is not impossible. Improbable was Trump ever becoming President of the United states and we talked about that, and well..he did.
 
CunningCanuk

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PopAndSonGrows

PopAndSonGrows

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CunningCanuk said:
Never been invaded?

British troops set fire to the White House | August 24, 1814 | HISTORY

On August 24, 1814, during the War of 1812 between the United States and England, British troops enter Washington, D.C. and burn the White House in retaliation for the American attack on the city of York in Ontario, Canada, in June 1813. When the British arrived at the White House, they found...
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Hasn't happened since, not counting Jan 6th but again that doesn't really count.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Six killed in Oregon by Japanese bomb | May 5, 1945 | HISTORY

In Gearhart Mountain, Oregon, Mrs. Elsie Mitchell and five neighborhood children are killed while attempting to drag a Japanese balloon out of the woods. Unbeknownst to Mitchell and the children, the balloon was armed, and it exploded soon after they began tampering with it. They were the first...
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Japanese bomb U.S. mainland | September 9, 1942 | HISTORY

On September 9, 1942, a Japanese floatplane drops incendiary bombs on an Oregon state forest—the first air attack on the U.S. mainland in the war. Launching from the Japanese sub I‑25, Nobuo Fujita piloted his light aircraft over the state of Oregon and firebombed Mount Emily, alighting a state...
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Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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injinji said:
Does the war of 1812 ring a bell? You know, the last time the capital was over ran before 1/6/2021.
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"War of 1812
Conflict between the United States and the British Empire from 1812 to 1815

The War of 1812 (18 June 1812 – 17 February 1815) was fought by the United States of America and its indigenous allies against the United Kingdom and its allies in British North America, with limited participation by Spain in Florida. It began when the US declared war on 18 June 1812 and, although peace terms were agreed upon in the December 1814 Treaty of Ghent, did not officially end until the peace treaty was ratified by Congress on 17 February 1815."

That doesn't count as you were the aggressor. Not even sticking to a peace deal. So the role of the US army was, ince again, not for defensive purpose.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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If the constitution was changed (and we have seen how easy that can happen) to allow states to leave the union peacefully, well that will be better than civil war.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Kassiopeija said:
That doesn't count as you were the aggressor. Not even sticking to a peace deal. So the role of the US army was, ince again, not for defensive purpose.
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The shear size of Americas army and its forward operating systems tells anyone and everyone its an invading force not a defence force. Plus all the wars they start.
 
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