War
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DIY-HP-LED
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Roger A. Shrubber
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well, lets start spreading those sanctions around, and lets put some import fees on Chinese and Indian imports, not fake sanctions that American citizens will end up paying for themselves...
really, why bother, why don't we just do what we should have done in February? just roll into Ukraine and help them drive the fucking russians all the way to fucking siberia? destroy their ability to wage war for generations, destroy them economically, break the fucking shit show up into rump states, after we confiscate all their old, obsolete, dangerous nuclear materials...
it's fucking coming, why not get it over with?
DIY-HP-LED
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Because it's absolutely stupid
You only wanna do it because you're not getting shot at, you don't care about the thousands of americans that are gonna die in doing this so you can get some feel good emotions. Put your bubble wrap back on, dumbass
BudmanTX
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fify
I'm so mad now, damn you
Herb & Suds
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Excellent
DIY-HP-LED
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I figure Joe, the state department, the pentagon and the CIA know what they are doing and seem to be keeping as much distance from Europe as they can while supporting NATO and Ukraine. Let the Europeans settle it, their gas is being cut off and Ukraine has it, the ones who resisted were the greedy bastards, now Ukrainian gas and oil can motivate them if common sense doesn't. We don't want a quick peace with these clowns going back to business with Russia as usual any time soon and once greed and need bring them onside, they will stay there. I'm sure the brain trust at state has all this figured into their plans.
It destroys the Russian military by strangling it slowly over time after sucking them in thinking they could win something, well they are pinned there now and he's thrown in 85% of his combat power and is down to junk tanks and derelict humans that he can dragoon off the streets with vodka and bullshit.
Ukraine is losing ground in the east, but they are also transitioning from old Soviet weapons to modern NATO ones and they will save the rest of the 152 ammo for the soviet tanks they have left, because they are transitioning those too. Transitioning to a whole new arms system in the middle of a pitched battle is tough to do, but wait a month or two and see what happens then. It shows you what kind of leadership and organization the Ukrainians have to be able to do this in the middle of a war. Once equipped and reinforced with fresh troops and the Russians are worn down more by constant attacking, they will enter the offensive phase, break the Russian army and destroy that bridge at Kerch. I figure since it would be so convenient for Joe and the democrats, a fall victory would be nice and about timed just right. They are gonna pull out all the stops I figure and Ukraine knows all about Trump and the republicans.
Roger A. Shrubber
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now do that 20,000 more times...
Roger A. Shrubber
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so you think it would be a better idea to let this drag on and on and end up killing twice as many Ukrainians and who the fuck knows how many more russians? how is that better than some Americans dying? what is the difference to you? somehow it's ok for THEM to get killed, helping to defend the world from fascism, but when Americans might die for the same goal, suddenly fighting fascism isn't quite so important? FUCKING HYPOCRITE...
So let's start another Vietnam because I'd rather my country men die than some South Vietnamese
You actually believe you're smart, that's the problem with all of you in here. You're actually stupid AF and tell yourselves privately how ahead of the curve you are.
As if more Russians wouldn't end up dying too way WAY more in that situation, moron of global proportions bro global.
Why don't we just step into every single issue in the world while we are at it and stick our noses in other people's business, how liberal and democratic of us
Roger A. Shrubber
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yes, that is all at least truish...but is still really leaves us standing on the sidelines shouting encouragement to the Ukrainians as they carry our weapons into war to fight and die for ideals that we profess to hold sacred....just exactly how sacred are those ideas that we refuse to take up arms to defend them ourselves? what exactly are sacred ideas worth to us? apparently a lot of lip service and as many Ukrainian lives as necessary...
DIY-HP-LED
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I figure they are being clever about how they do it, not moral, nations have no morals, just interests. Some want Russia gone as a threat and others want to cut a deal and sell the Ukrainians down any river they can get away with. So a slow long war might be best and probably the Ukrainian government has figured this out too. The US, Can, UK, Poland and the other eastern Europeans see the chance to do this now that Vlad stuck his neck out. Driving Russia out of the place and making sure sanctions stay on Russia is in the European and our best interests. Without a peace, Belarus is vulnerable when Ukraine gets the upper hand, they won't invade, but they will support a new government, who will invite them to defend their eastern border with Russia, along with the Poles most likely.
If Russia losses, and Ukraine develops it's resources and becomes Europe's energy supplier, then they will become very rich very quickly and with their history, that means they will be an independent non nuclear super power in Europe. They will develop, or buy weapons from Europe, because Europe will be dependent on them and they will have loads of cash. It's not just the war IMHO that has accelerated Ukrainian EU membership, it is oil and gas too. Once that is developed, Russia is fucked forever sanctions or not and gasoline demand will drop like a stone in Europe over the next decade as EVs take over there. Europe needs a decade or two of gas and oil until they transition to a green new grid and alternatives, after that the Russians can use it themselves, if they have the cars or keep it in the ground like coal.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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Does anybody seriously think this war will be settled at a peace table? It will be settled eventually at a peace table, but that is a long way off and a bitter experience for Russia. If they don't make peace and Ukraine grows strong economically in the future while they grow poor and weak, many ways will be found to make them feel so much pain they howl. There are people in Ukraine and other places who want Russia to howl for a long fucking time, until they collapse.
There are gonna be a ton of personal actions taken against Russia, acts of private terrorism motivated by revenge and retribution, many Ukrainians can pass themselves off as Russian and they have allies inside Russia too, or will have. Many will end up in Georgia in years to come or anywhere else they can get a piece of the Russians, some people take to war and we have seen them in Ukraine from NATO nations. Russia is saving up a world of hurt in Ukraine and if there is a future peace agreement, the Ukrainian government would have to suppress the many people and groups who want Russian blood any way they can get it. If there is no peace agreement the Ukrainian government will be causing Russia trouble wherever it can and using it's wealth and power to support Vlad's many enemies.
There are gonna be a ton of personal actions taken against Russia, acts of private terrorism motivated by revenge and retribution, many Ukrainians can pass themselves off as Russian and they have allies inside Russia too, or will have. Many will end up in Georgia in years to come or anywhere else they can get a piece of the Russians, some people take to war and we have seen them in Ukraine from NATO nations. Russia is saving up a world of hurt in Ukraine and if there is a future peace agreement, the Ukrainian government would have to suppress the many people and groups who want Russian blood any way they can get it. If there is no peace agreement the Ukrainian government will be causing Russia trouble wherever it can and using it's wealth and power to support Vlad's many enemies.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's always embarrassing when you shoot yourself, but I think that was lethal to the launcher and the crew. A change of underwear would be required for any survivors...
BudmanTX
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umm that would be prolly stolen underwear if they have any......that vid gave me a chuckle.....
looks like ol snappy squirrel gave me another come back after reading BS posts....
DIY-HP-LED
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The Ukrainians should leave packages of underwear around, soaked in something special, then dried carefully and repackaged like new...