"Dont Mess It Up, Ris", My First Indoor Attempt - Gelato 33

[RIS]

Update on the light, my budget for this light(for now) was pretty low. I added another 4ft fluorescent and this 315w CMH Link is to another site not my local shop. Link Here, This was not the price i paid. I know its not enough on its own but it will have to do for now.

 

[DrDukePHD]

i hate neem oil. it stinks like (and makes thing taste like) rotten thai food.
if you have a pest problem, you'd be better off mixing up a little hot sauce and dawn in a gallon of water and spraying them with that.
i really like spinosad, as long as you're not in flower yet. 3 to 4 treatments 3 days apart will kill any pest i've ever had to deal with.
if you are in flower, i'd stick to the hot sauce/dish soap solution, and then spray them with plain water the next day to wash the excess off, and repeat that 3 or 4 times, about 3 days apart. that gives any eggs time to hatch, and wipes out the older ones so they can't lay any more

I'm going to order some spinosad just incase i get pests later, can you suggest a brand? Everything in a spray bottle i see on amazon says "spinosad soap" or "with spinosad". Not seeing anything as Spinosad only. Thanks!

 

[RIS]

@DrDukePHD
main ingredient is Spinosad, I used this one. It did take me a while to figure it out tho

Monterey LG6150 Garden Insect Spray, Insecticide & Pesticide with Spinosad Concentrate, 16 oz https://a.co/d/ejuB283

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

I'm going to order some spinosad just incase i get pests later, can you suggest a brand? Everything in a spray bottle i see on amazon says "spinosad soap" or "with spinosad". Not seeing anything as Spinosad only. Thanks!

captain jacks' dead bug brew" is the brand i use, think it's a monsanto product

 

[RIS]

captain jacks' dead bug brew" is the brand i use, think it's a monsanto product

that was the other one i looked at.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

that was the other one i looked at.

it's worked really well for me, i've had spider mites 3 times in the past 5 years, and captain jack kicked their asses withing a week all three times. that's what i get for living in the south and having a lot of potted plants i move in and out of the house seasonally

 

[PJ Diaz]

@DrDukePHD
main ingredient is Spinosad, I used this one. It did take me a while to figure it out tho

Monterey LG6150 Garden Insect Spray, Insecticide & Pesticide with Spinosad Concentrate, 16 oz https://a.co/d/ejuB283

That's the stuff I use, and the concentrate has a nice long shelf life.

 

[RIS]

So, I kept 2 gelatos. To practice LST on. Even though it’s not great it’s better than it was.

 

[DrDukePHD]

captain jacks' dead bug brew" is the brand i use, think it's a monsanto product

Alright I got all my preventatives bought, Roger i took your Captain Jack suggestion.. just cuz I'm a Pirate at heart lol, one thing i noticed is "outdoor residential use only" any reason spinosad shouldn't be used in a tent indoors?

 

[RIS]

Don't quote me as I am not qualified, however, I think I read something about it being harmful if inhaled.

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/spinosadgen.html check this out

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Alright I got all my preventatives bought, Roger i took your Captain Jack suggestion.. just cuz I'm a Pirate at heart lol, one thing i noticed is "outdoor residential use only" any reason spinosad shouldn't be used in a tent indoors?

i've been using it for five years in a tent inside, and haven't noticed any ill effects, on me or the plants. i'll look into that, see if i can find out why it says that

 

[bam0813]

Its safe

 

[bam0813]

That says it can cause a skin or eye irritation, thats about it. They did a study which i dont like but they fed it to dogs. One vomited no other side effects

 

[bam0813]

I think you’d be hard pressed to find any substance or material that doesn’t have some degree of inhalation warning imo

 

[RIS]

I think you’d be hard pressed to find any substance or material that doesn’t have some degree of inhalation warning imo

It's cool I don't even inhale... it's like the opposite of weed.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Alright I got all my preventatives bought, Roger i took your Captain Jack suggestion.. just cuz I'm a Pirate at heart lol, one thing i noticed is "outdoor residential use only" any reason spinosad shouldn't be used in a tent indoors?

https://www.planetnatural.com/wp-content/uploads/monterey-garden-insect-msds.pdf
looks pretty safe to me...

 

[bam0813]

You must have an extra n95 around somewhere lol

 

[DrDukePHD]

You must have an extra n95 around somewhere lol

Awesome thanks guys! Definitely have about a million of those lol

 

[pahpah-cee]

I went with Monterey spinosad over cap jack. Heard cap jack works better but it’s “for organic gardening” where Monterey is OMRI.

 

[RIS]

@Roger A. Shrubber see what you started if you keep giving away all your secrets you could become a cult leader. You got three people buying shit with one word. “Spinosad”