i got a high ppm/ec read on one of my plants run off water. I did only one feed of Athena blended and it was 600 going in. They are a little droopy and I thought it was from over watering but could it be from them having to much nutrients built up in the soil? Should I flush with pure ph’d water and then feed nutrients again when the PPM/Ec on the run off drops? They kind of look like they need nutrients though so I am confused this is my first grow so any advice helps and appreciated thanks. Oh and growing in 3gal fabric pots with FF bush doctor coco loco soil.
High ppm run off
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TrichDaddy
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And what was it coming out?
I wouldn't say excess nutes would cause wilting like that. Much more likely to be the overwatering.
Like 1500 Ppm came out but the slurry test I ran was 430ppm. I didn’t water for 6 days and then last night gave them some and didn’t perk back up. Might have fucked my self over giving them water again but they were hella dry I even used a moisture meter for the soil and was dry
TrichDaddy
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That Coco Loco stuff you're using, is that pure coco or does it have ferts and stuff added?
From what I can see of your plant, it doesn't look overfed. In fact it looks in great health apart from the droop. I've had some really strange coco runoff readings even from perfectly healthy plants and never pay much mind to them. Personally I'd focus on getting your watering cycle in tune with the plants needs. Try to avoid hella dry. Too dry too often can make it appear like you have deficiencies or oversupplies but the reality is that as the water dries out of the coco, the nutes still remain, but now they're super concentrated and it wreaks havoc. The cure is simply to water at proper intervals.
Having said that, sure, it's good to give coco plants a flush from time to time if they need it. I use very low EC nutes like 0.3, 0.4.
From what I can see of your plant, it doesn't look overfed. In fact it looks in great health apart from the droop. I've had some really strange coco runoff readings even from perfectly healthy plants and never pay much mind to them. Personally I'd focus on getting your watering cycle in tune with the plants needs. Try to avoid hella dry. Too dry too often can make it appear like you have deficiencies or oversupplies but the reality is that as the water dries out of the coco, the nutes still remain, but now they're super concentrated and it wreaks havoc. The cure is simply to water at proper intervals.
Having said that, sure, it's good to give coco plants a flush from time to time if they need it. I use very low EC nutes like 0.3, 0.4.
What’s up bro thanks for the info. I had actually gave them a good amount of pure ph water and they actually perked back up but I noticed a slight yellow whitish tip on my new growth I am starting to think cal mag deficiency??? And the fox farm coco loco from what I have read is supposed to be treated as soil. I don’t usually use ocean forest so I’m not to sure but I just googled what the ingredients were and this is it.
“Bush Doctor Coco Loco Potting Soil by Foxfarm is one crazy little mix that's chock-full of the best coconut coir available. Also includes plenty of good stuff like aged forest products, perlite, earthworm castings, bat guano, Norwegian kelp meal, oyster shell and dolomite lime.”
to me it seems like it’s just soil with a little mix of coco?
VincenzioVonHook
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It's just from the added nutes in the mix. Of course it's going to come out a bit higher than what you put in.
I've used a Coco/compost/ewc, kelp, Neem, alfalfa and lime mix from a local store and it came out at around 3500ppm without feeding any supplementary. It's more an organic soilless mix than straight Coco, so they ppm should be pretty high, and runoff will leech out the nutrients in the soil (which isn't an issue of you are going to feed salts regularly to runoff anyway).
I've used a Coco/compost/ewc, kelp, Neem, alfalfa and lime mix from a local store and it came out at around 3500ppm without feeding any supplementary. It's more an organic soilless mix than straight Coco, so they ppm should be pretty high, and runoff will leech out the nutrients in the soil (which isn't an issue of you are going to feed salts regularly to runoff anyway).
okay thanks for info bro really appreciate it. Did you use those to make your own soil?
Would you happen to know why the tips of my new growth are becoming like a light yellowish kinda like it wants to go like a whiteish yellow color. Is that a cal mag deficiency, or could it be start of a nutrient burn. I only fed them once like almost 2 weeks ago now with 600ppm of veg food Athena line. I’m honestly thinking of going organic compost tea now I never used liquid nutes before. I kinda want to give them some food since it’s been 2 weeks but I don’t want to burn them at all so I’m debating on waiting and just giving more ph’d water for now til I figure it out
How long are the nutes in the soil good for before plants eat em all? I’ve been told only 2 weeks the plants can live off the fox farm soil