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DIY-HP-LED

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I still think of it as Ostpreußen.
It might be interesting if a lot of the military and their families want out of Russia, pack in the Russian refugees, the one's who don't like Vlad! There could be violence there Vlad doesn't have as much power there and the people know the truth, an almost instant rise in their standard of living can make a big difference to some people.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Is MAD still relevant? I just don't see a policy of "if one nuke is launched, launch all the nukes" standing 50 years of technological advancement.
MAD remains relevant. However i do not think it means “launch all now”. Were we to launch a first-response strike, I would imagine using some silo-based ICBMs, possibly followed by precision follow-up using B-2s.

With Vladolf threatening the use of wmd, I imagine policy and particulars of nuclear weapon use by us, Great Britain, France and the other nuclear powers are under active review. I doubt it is a “peace or extinction” thought process the way it was 30 years ago.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Chinese and CIA will have fun in those restive Russian republics, now that Vlad has gone full Stalin and iron curtain. The more of his army and it's equipment and munitions that is spent or destroyed in Ukraine the weaker he becomes. He has to not just worry about neighboring republics, but those within the Russian federation.

As far as I know there is still one major rail and road link in Siberia, at least in some places. It is crossed by many major rivers, the rail and road bridges are unguarded and blowing both of them up in a strategic location could cut Russia in half for months if not years. Sure they could fly troops in, but runways can be blown up and then what about transport and equipment when they got there? There might be a half dozen restive republics eager for Chinese help east of the breach in communications and Vlad will have a broken dysfunctional army with little equipment and no new technology. The breakaway republic or region idea works both ways, as Vlad will find out, if he lives long enough to find out. There is oil to be had a republic stan, or two to the west of China and they are already in the belt and road scheme, a pipeline or two would not be a reach. China might cause more trouble for Vlad in central Asia than America, expanding their influence in that direction would be ok and might keep Xi busy, it would be more profitable and far less trouble than going after Taiwan. There are literally time zones of forests and minerals to the north in those Siberian republics, just to the north of China and if they became independent...

Will Russia Splinter Over War in Ukraine? Russia Ukraine War Update


History may repeat itself. Russia is failing in its attempt to occupy Ukraine. In the process, Russia is suffering grave losses in military capability, economic strength, and international standing. It is now clear that Russia is not a great power in the same league as the United States and China. And it is entering a period of political turmoil that is likely to include renewed demands for independence by its constituent republics in a replay of the break-up of the Soviet Union.

full news: https://nationalinterest.org/feature/...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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No wonder they gave Ukraine 100 free cheaper recon drones! They are gonna sell a lot more switchblades to Ukraine in the near future I figure. I'm pretty sure Joe is gonna seize 100 billion of Russian money and Vlad has another $200 billion stashed abroad somewhere, so consider it a loan and the cost of the arms will be repaid before the Ukrainians get the cash, $10 billion or so for weapons and ammo is no big deal to Uncle Sam, but it is a nice touch! Vlad blundered and is losing in more ways than can be counted, he might even end up losing greater Russia if the non Russian republics start peeling away, especially those in distant Siberia.
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U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Command awarded AeroVironment, of Simi Valley, Calif., the contract for RQ-20 Puma AE systems, along “with reconnaissance surveillance and target acquisition kits, initial spares package, contractor logistics support and new equipment training for the country of Ukraine.” Work is due to be complete by May 30.

The drone has a range of about 12 miles and its battery provides more than three hours of flight time, according to a company fact sheet. It has a wingspan of about 9 feet and weighs 14 pounds ― with its electro-optical and infrared camera and illuminator on a mechanical gimbaled payload.



Though the Pentagon and industry are wrestling with how to ramp up production to continue supplying Ukraine, the U.S. and other allies, AeroVironment told Defense News earlier this month it has production capacity to spare for the Puma and the Switchblade.

The Pentagon has acknowledged the U.S. trained a “very small” group of Ukrainian troops on the Switchblade. It said those troops were already present in the U.S. before Russia invaded Ukraine.
 

injinji

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They have public heat on them too, Joe is going to congress for yet more cash for Ukraine. If they beat Russia, get their cash and develop their gas resources for Europe, it will end up as a loan.
It's not the cost. It's the disclosure of an up til then, undisclosed system. This (and the unmanned boat) are used by special forces. Black ops are so named for a reason.
 

injinji

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It might be interesting if a lot of the military and their families want out of Russia, pack in the Russian refugees, the one's who don't like Vlad!. . . . . . . .
I heard today (on NPR or the Newshour) that 200K of the best and brightest had already flown the coop. Young educated folks from the big cities. Poot-poot is letting them go because they are the ones who know the truth and would be trouble for him in the long run. They are Russia's best chance to get rid of him, so we don't want all of them leaving.
 

Friendly_Grower

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Is MAD still relevant? I just don't see a policy of "if one nuke is launched, launch all the nukes" standing 50 years of technological advancement.

It will be a sad day, the day, the world powers launch their Nukes.
I don't think there is any other thing except the "M.A.D." philosophy.

I mean if one country ruins the world what do they win?
I do remember someone saying that they didn't know just how WWIII would be fought and who would win but they were sure WWIIII would be fought with sticks and stones.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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I heard today (on NPR or the Newshour) that 200K of the best and brightest had already flown the coop. Young educated folks from the big cities. Poot-poot is letting them go because they are the ones who know the truth and would be trouble for him in the long run. They are Russia's best chance to get rid of him, so we don't want all of them leaving.
i'm ok with them leaving, without them, the country has no future, and a very questionable present....no innovation, no investigation, no experimentation...that means no more "super weapons" for putin, no one to solve looming technical issues, no one to administer anything higher tech than a tractor factory....and, all that knowledge is now going to be looking for new jobs and new homes in places that aren't friendly to putin
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It will be a sad day, the day, the world powers launch their Nukes.
I don't think there is any other thing except the "M.A.D." philosophy.

I mean if one country ruins the world what do they win?
I do remember someone saying that they didn't know just how WWIII would be fought and who would win but they were sure WWIIII would be fought with sticks and stones.
that is attributed to Albert Einstein, but has never been confirmed
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It will be a sad day, the day, the world powers launch their Nukes.
I don't think there is any other thing except the "M.A.D." philosophy.

I mean if one country ruins the world what do they win?
I do remember someone saying that they didn't know just how WWIII would be fought and who would win but they were sure WWIIII would be fought with sticks and stones.
I believe that this is in motion.
With weapon smartness advancing hand over fist, the utility of sub-kiloton atomic munitions is imo an area of active tactical review.
Previously, cep (circular error probability, a key property of strategic delivery systems) decided bomb or warhead yield. That drove the design of our and their warheads.

Now there are much better ways to deliver the physics package to the exact coordinates. It is what makes the 0.3 kiloton option for the B-63-12 make sense. Ypu dont have to
overspecify for a near miss.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I heard today (on NPR or the Newshour) that 200K of the best and brightest had already flown the coop. Young educated folks from the big cities. Poot-poot is letting them go because they are the ones who know the truth and would be trouble for him in the long run. They are Russia's best chance to get rid of him, so we don't want all of them leaving.
We won't have much of a say, they are going east, west and south, Kaliningrad might be a good choice for some and later Ukraine. If Belarus is liberated, many will flow into there, a lot are ending up in Georgia and Kazakhstan, former Soviet republics. Google was started by two Russian emigres here on scholarships and others made a big splash too. Vlad's biggest problem is most people under 30 know the truth and many under 50 know too, they do the fighting as soldier, or as revolutionaries, or protesting in the streets. Reforming the army from top to bottom is very difficult for dictatorships, the tactical style of thinking for one's self clashes with the control they require. People are promoted on the basis of personal loyalty, not competence or merit, think the Trump administration times 10.

Vlad now has more people in prison for political reasons, than Brezhnev had in jail during the Soviet Union and they had a lot more people then!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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two in one day? it is a big country, shit happens, but that's a pretty large coincidence...lets see what the next few days bring.
They must be drooling on their fucking desks in the CIA over this shit, the possibilities it presents for recruiting spies and clandestine operations are fucking astounding. They are stunned and dizzy at the prospects in Langley, I'm sure the geopolitical gears are turning in Beijing too, they smell blood in the water and undreamed of possibilities right next door. So do discontents in those eastern republics, some of whom might want to blow a couple of Siberian bridges up. Vlad has many enemies and this would fuck him real good and it would be a monumental crises, as well as an opportunity for independence from Russia for a half dozen or more republics in the east.

The CIA will settle for Ukraine, Georgia, Kaliningrad and Belarus, china can have the central Asian stans and perhaps former Russian federation republics in it's sphere of influence. It depends on how much Vlad's military and economy are weakened by this war, but starting a few months from now to a few years, first Vlad's satellite countries will go and then other republics might go too and if a few go together it will be hard for Vlad or the government in Moscow to reclaim them. Vlad started this breakaway region stuff in Ukraine and Georgia, it looks like it might come back to bite him on the ass big time. His army will be destroyed and he gutted the FSB department responsible for causing shit in the former republics.

I say keep Vlad busy in his own backyard and have a quiet chat with China about the situation in central Asia and the potential opportunities. Carve the Russian federation up like a dead pig and just leave the Russian "heartland" west of the Urals, a rump state.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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German stockpile shortages hamper Ukraine arms aid | DW News

Germany is looking at the extra maintenance and the ammunition that would be needed for it to deploy fighting vehicles to Ukraine.
 
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